Willian

[coolhead23 1,146]

If we're to sell Willian to United then it has to be a swap deal which sees Martial coming this way ... Shouldnt be a cash deal!!! Else it would be foolish on our part. 

[DDA 9,689]

Sell him to United all day long. If we can get Martial in the deal, even better. Losing Willian will not be a problem whatsoever, especially if we bring in someone of real quality. We have to get his replacement bang on though. I'd even prefer Zaha to Willian. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

 

3 minutes ago, DDA said:

Sell him to United all day long. If we can get Martial in the deal, even better. Losing Willian will not be a problem whatsoever, especially if we bring in someone of real quality. We have to get his replacement bang on though. I'd even prefer Zaha to Willian. 

I just wish we would bring in replacements first before we sold/

[DDA 9,689]

Just now, Unionjack said:

 

I just wish we would bring in replacements first before we sold/

I read somewhere that we need to sell a few in order to buy this summer.. sell Willian, Zappacosta, Morata, Drunkwater and maybe Bakayoko. I am actually willing to watch Bakayoko trip over his own feet for another season just for the comedy factor. Once we get some dosh for that lot, then we can finance maybe 2 top players. Dip in Romans funds and buy another 2. Promote Mount and Odoi. Good to go. 

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, DDA said:

I read somewhere that we need to sell a few in order to buy this summer.. sell Willian, Zappacosta, Morata, Drunkwater and maybe Bakayoko. I am actually willing to watch Bakayoko trip over his own feet for another season just for the comedy factor. Once we get some dosh for that lot, then we can finance maybe 2 top players. Dip in Romans funds and buy another 2. Promote Mount and Odoi. Good to go. 

Will take the whole window to find ithem new homes tho and all the decent players will be settled by then

[mccg 1,528]

It be funny if we swap him for Pogba 

[Tautvix 1,321]

11 minutes ago, mccg said:

It be funny if we swap him for Pogba 

Go for Martial..

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

People who want Martial must be thinking purely on potential. He's been a flop in England, and he doesnt play for France anymore either.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

1 hour ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

People who want Martial must be thinking purely on potential. He's been a flop in England, and he doesnt play for France anymore either.

Yeah he has talent, but seriously lacks discipline and brains.

+he is LW/ST. We already have Eden on left, while I wouldnt trust Martial as main striker. The only way I can see him fit in this squad is something like this

---------------Tibo-----------------

-Azpi-Chris-Rudi-Emerson-

RLC/Baka-Kante-NEW CM

-------------Hazard----------------

-------Martial-Morata-----------

Morata gets support by another striker, Hazard gets his best role as free roaming AM, our midfield and defense looks solid, plus Martial and Eden can always cut in from wings, which adds diversity. We would however need constant support wide from Emerson and Azpi, question is if they are up to the task. Abraham would get decent play time too if we had 2 strikers. Add Bailey and we can always play 4:3:3 to shake things up aswell.

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

10 hours ago, milan.cech said:

Manchester United are interested in signing Willian from Chelsea this summer, according to Sky sources.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11380531/manchester-united-interested-in-signing-willian-from-chelsea

If he is to go sell him to someone outside of England.

[bluesman2610 1,344]

47 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Yeah he has talent, but seriously lacks discipline and brains.

+he is LW/ST. We already have Eden on left, while I wouldnt trust Martial as main striker. The only way I can see him fit in this squad is something like this

---------------Tibo-----------------

-Azpi-Chris-Rudi-Emerson-

RLC/Baka-Kante-NEW CM

-------------Hazard----------------

-------Martial-Morata-----------

Morata gets support by another striker, Hazard gets his best role as free roaming AM, our midfield and defense looks solid, plus Martial and Eden can always cut in from wings, which adds diversity. We would however need constant support wide from Emerson and Azpi, question is if they are up to the task. Abraham would get decent play time too if we had 2 strikers. Add Bailey and we can always play 4:3:3 to shake things up aswell.

how do we make this happen?

[Polo7 3,496]

2 hours ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

People who want Martial must be thinking purely on potential. He's been a flop in England, and he doesnt play for France anymore either.

His first season here he did really well. Then mourinho came and did what he does best. Destroy the confidence of youngsters. Same with rashford and shaw. 

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

19 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

His first season here he did really well. Then mourinho came and did what he does best. Destroy the confidence of youngsters. Same with rashford and shaw. 

First half of the season when he just moved here he did, no doubt he started well, scored some goals etc but never really kicked on from there and I know Mourinho is a bad coach for youngsters (although Rashford the first season, Scott McTominay and also Lingaard have come on leaps and bounds although Rashford has struggled a bit this season and Shaw's career at United is all but over) but you can't blame Mourinho for his inconsistencies which were even on show under van Gaal after that good start. The fact hes made 2 appearances for France since 2017 doesn't help his case. He'd be a good option to have purely based on his potential and there is a player in there but I doubt he'd suit playing right wing which is where he will be shoehorned into if Eden stays and lets not kid ourselves, replacing Eden with Martial would be a ridiculous move as well. In terms of options in attack he'd be a shrewd move for 30-40M though because theres still time to get him back on track.

[Tomo 21,733]

Just now, Mana said:

Willian showed a bit of player power after the celebrations. Played awful these last few games, probably to get rid of Conte.

No question about it, Willian's one of the players that does player power.

Get rid. He's reached his peak anyway, he's not going to get better.

Player power is such an overhyped cliche. Admitedly Willian shouldn't have done what he did but it appears these days any player who doesn't unconditionally submit to managers are instantly dismissed as pondlife. It's just not how footy or the world in general works.

[Tomo 21,733]

6 minutes ago, Mana said:

Willian is getting paid ££££ per week, and if I underperform at work I'll get the boot.

When you don't play for the manager and want him out, that is the definition of player power. Stop dancing around it.

Not dancing around anything, it's just manager's get so much protection from the average fan that they could be narracistic bully's and the players would still get the blame.

[BlueSunshine 672]

19 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Not dancing around anything, it's just manager's get so much protection from the average fan that they could be narracistic bully's and the players would still get the blame.

In all of the years that you have been watching football, how many occasions can you think of that the players took the blame wrongly for a manager's wrongdoings? Five? Ten?

Now allow me to change some words around from your sentence and you tell me how many times you have seen this happening.

The players get so much protection from the average club that they could be narcissistic (i am guessing that's what you wanted to say) bullies and the manager would still get the blame/sack.

[Tomo 21,733]

5 minutes ago, BlueSunshine said:

In all of the years that you have been watching football, how many occasions can you think of that the players took the blame wrongly for a manager's wrongdoings? Five? Ten?

Now allow me to change some words around from your sentence and you tell me how many times you have seen this happening.

The players get so much protection from the average club that they could be narcissistic (i am guessing that's what you wanted to say) bullies and the manager would still get the blame/sack.

In terms of the fan opinion it's reapeatedly happened here, one even got branded a snake despite playing all the season upto that point with a hip injury.

[Krypt 241]

His acting like a child.

He turns up in the big games he wants to play (barca) yes he had qualities but what has happened to the mentality of players?