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Personally I think moving Ramires from the wing to the middle completely changed the way the whole team performed rather than one player, but we'll have to agree to disagree.

And we finished 6th and 3rd respectively. That wasn't just down to him, but we made severe concessions when including him in the team. He's a fantastic footballer and he'll produce magic, but my priority is always how does the team perform and we look less disjointed with Oscar than we do with Mata. I've said that for some time now.

and no one including me will argue against that. Even now all we were discussing is mata's usefullness as a substitute. Oscar gives us some brilliant balance but mata provides magic like no one else.

Mata will leave chelsea at the end of the season but not right now.

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and no one including me will argue against that. Even now all we were discussing is mata's usefullness as a substitute. Oscar gives us some brilliant balance but mata provides magic like no one else.

Mata will leave chelsea at the end of the season but not right now.

Not really...he is just a consistent well performer but not the sort of Gerrard/Ronaldo/Lampard/Drogba/Messi who scores 30 yards winner or last min winners. He is just consistent for the last 2 seasons. He was never really a game changer and probably never will be, just like David Silva who is very similar and a better player.

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Not really...he is just a consistent well performer but not the sort of Gerrard/Ronaldo/Lampard/Drogba/Messi who scores 30 yards winner or last min winners. He is just consistent for the last 2 seasons. He was never really a game changer and probably never will be, just like David Silva who is very similar and a better player.

how many players are there that can be compared to gerrard/CR/messi/DD/lamps?

if u have a player that is equal to these guys, u would not be even thinking about selling it.

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how many players are there that can be compared to gerrard/CR/messi/DD/lamps?

if u have a player that is equal to these guys, u would not be even thinking about selling it.

Yeah I know that is the thing though, you are claiming Mata is magic and no one is like him but I have already shown that he isn't really that special, just a good consistent player like many other good players. There are different classes of player, Mata is near the top but not actually in the world class elite imo so I am basically suggesting you are overrating him a little bit.

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Yeah I know that is the thing though, you are claiming Mata is magic and no one is like him but I have already shown that he isn't really that special, just a good consistent player like many other good players. There are different classes of player, Mata is near the top but not actually in the world class elite imo so I am basically suggesting you are overrating him a little bit.

for the past 2 years he has been our POTY. he has been our best player in the season we won CL. under different circumstances mata would still have been our "THE" player. what stops mata from becoming a world class player is just his defensive liability. i am not over-rating his attacking prowess which pretty much speaks for itself.

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Looked very good again.The thing he is lacking is the end product.He needs to be more clinical in front of the goal,but else it's very fine :)<br /><br />Gesendet von meinem LG-P710 mit Tapatalk<br /><br />

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Man of the Match next to Ashley Cole and what a great ball in for the goal . Hazard and Willian are going to kill many teams in the future and Jose has taught them about defensive duties ,which makes them all round players and makes us harder to score against.

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