illmatic 901 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 More than a problem of style, I see a system problem. The best position for Griezmann is as second striker in a 4 - 4- 2 (Or 4 - 4 - 1 - 1, as you want to see it), and We don't play with that system, and we don't use nothing similar to a Second Striker. But for style? He is playing for the Argentinian Mou. The Simeone style is 50% long balls, 50% counter attack, and with that style, he is shining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 there's nothing to discuss here. another AM is not needed for the 1st team right now, so why any discussion on such players? Muzchap and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 there's nothing to discuss here. another AM is not needed for the 1st team right now, so why any discussion on such players?Because he's a striker, not an AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Long ball tactics? Not sure I follow you at all. You can use someone like drogba like that but Mourinho doesn't play long ball tactics, he's about the counter attack which Griezmann would be perfect for.Our defenders oftenly just hoof the ball from defense into middle pitch. Thank god we have tall players out there. There are too many times when we are under attack collect the ball and one of defenders or midfieldes just hoofs the ball as far as possible only to be regained by opposition because Hazard Willian Pedro etc cant get to it. If you think Griezmann would work in chelsea and PL, then good luck. You need either physicality or balance, neither Griezmann has.About goals, Cesc and Pedro were very decent in that in spain. Look look how much they score in pl now...Griz is top player but not for Chelsea. Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Because he's a striker, not an AM.yeah, he's a striker. sure. and he's going to the lead the attack in PL? Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 yeah, he's a striker. sure. and he's going to the lead the attack in PL?I agree - the notion that this guy is going to be our main striker is crazy!Ighalo from Watford would be a better and cheaper signing! quickpassnmove and bellion 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's shaved his hair off. I'm appalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 He's shaved his hair off. I'm appalled.Going through the Neymar transformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 yeah, he's a striker. sure. and he's going to the lead the attack in PL?If I had it my way he would play next to Diego as a second striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Going through the Neymar transformation.Shaved or not, Neymar has a shit hair. But Griezmann? kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Shaved or not, Neymar has a shit hair. But Griezmann? Racist. kellzfresh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 Atletico Madrid forward Antoine Griezmann is #Chelsea's first choice replacement Eden Hazard in the summer. [Mail] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 On 14/12/2015 at 7:59 AM, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said: If I had it my way he would play next to Diego as a second striker. Fair chance that's exactly what will happen when season 2016/17 gets going in Spain. CurlyHairLikeLuiz and Essien19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted February 10, 2016 Author Share Posted February 10, 2016 A centre forward replacing a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625 Posted February 10, 2016 Share Posted February 10, 2016 4 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: Fair chance that's exactly what will happen when season 2016/17 gets going in Spain. I hope not. The board would be very stupid to sell Diego... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted February 10, 2016 Popular Post! Share Posted February 10, 2016 Here is my two cents on Griezmann - While I think he's a wonderful player with a real knack for scoring goals, my feeling says he's taylor made for one tactic in particular and a certain manager. And that's Diego Simeone and his modern 4-4-2. He's a number 9.5 as managers like to refer to this type of player - not a number 10, but not a number 9 either. Can't be a playmaker and can't play as a lone center forward. He's a shadow striker, a false 10. Bergkamp had the same role under Wenger's 4-4-2 if you remember. Henry the center forward, Bergkamp 9.5 (false 10), Pires - Ljunberg wide midfielders and the pivot Vieira & Gilberto Roberto Baggio had the same role as well while playing under Arrigo Sacchi's trade mark 4-4-2 in WC 1994 - Donadoni and Berti wide midfielders, Massaro/Casiraghi the lone forward and Baggio number 9.5. I think Griezmann is similar to those players and would not be that effective on the wing, or as an attacking midfielder, or a lone center forward. He's made to play in a tactic with two strikers and under a manager that fully believes in his ability and knows how to get the best of him. Not an easy player to work with though. There's not a lot of managers that can get the best out of him. Hybrid Angel, Johnnyeye, Leif and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 8 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said: Here is my two cents on Griezmann - While I think he's a wonderful player with a real knack for scoring goals, my feeling says he's taylor made for one tactic in particular and a certain manager. And that's Diego Simeone and his modern 4-4-2. He's a number 9.5 as managers like to refer to this type of player - not a number 10, but not a number 9 either. Can't be a playmaker and can't play as a lone center forward. He's a shadow striker, a false 10. Bergkamp had the same role under Wenger's 4-4-2 if you remember. Henry the center forward, Bergkamp 9.5 (false 10), Pires - Ljunberg wide midfielders and the pivot Vieira & Gilberto Roberto Baggio had the same role as well while playing under Arrigo Sacchi's trade mark 4-4-2 in WC 1994 - Donadoni and Berti wide midfielders, Massaro/Casiraghi the lone forward and Baggio number 9.5. I think Griezmann is similar to those players and would not be that effective on the wing, or as an attacking midfielder, or a lone center forward. He's made to play in a tactic with two strikers and under a manager that fully believes in his ability and knows how to get the best of him. Not an easy player to work with though. There's not a lot of managers that can get the best out of him. You are forgetting that even in his best role, Griz probably wouldnt cut it in PL. He is too lightweight and small and unlike Aguero Sanchez or Hazard, he doesnt have such great balance and holdup either. IMO he is perfect for la liga and if he wants to get most of his talent he should either stay in spain or go to Bayern. Essien19 and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Spike 12,049 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Popular Post! Share Posted February 11, 2016 The physicality of the Premier League has to be one of the most stupid misconceptions I've ever come across. A player of any height or weight can exceed in the PL, it's just a question or not they can handle the somewhat colder conditions, lack of winter break and the higher tempo. That is the difference in 'physicality' not size. He averages like 80% of passes, his hold up is fine. Absolute fucking nonsense that a player the size of Griezmann couldn't handle England. He is taller and heavier than players like Hazard, Silva, Willian and those other short manlets. He is fine. Beepu, bethos1, Ainsley Harriott and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Colored Sky 1,807 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Ryiad Mahrez weighs 62 kg, lol. And he handles this league, well he is best player at the moment. (He is the same height as Oscar and even lighter than him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Drogba 2,000 Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 He looks weak but he is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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