zolayes 14,489 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 we did play some excellent close control football ,,,Unlucky that Bran made TWO awful mistakes ,,, BUT the most glaring thing is WE would have won by FIVE if Ba had started ... EVERYONE can see it except our Owner . Now there isnt even the option of Lukaku ,,,, The season is being wasted through complete obstinacy in refusing to see what the whole world knows ... EVERY CB is owning Torresweek in week out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Can you even prove that Abramovic forces the managers to play Torres?http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/28/fernando-torres-roman-abramovich-Torres said: "I had a conversation with the owner of Chelsea and he trusts me. His confidence is total and that is what I needed to keep fighting and continue to be essential for the team."The Chelsea striker's words echo those of chief executive, Ron Gourlay, who said last week that the club had absolute belief that Torres would now come good for them, especially important now that Didier Drogba has left the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-25 12 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Luiz played well tonight but one thing that I did notice was that earlier in the season when we played with two from Lampard, Mikel and Ramires, then Mata would be the one picking up the ball and dictating things for the team. I think it can be pretty safely assumed as fact that he is the best player in our team to be pulling the strings.However when Luiz plays (certainly tonight), it does seem to stifle Mata who doesn't enjoy as much space as he gets from deep.That's my point, I'm not against Luiz but I'm against the role he is being given, it can't be that the coaching staff are that stupid not to see the difference!and like you said, Mata is the best player to dictate the play. We even won away games I personally thought we had no chance of winning (spurs and arsenal) with Hazard and Oscar playing wide the same as tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC 13 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I simply find it funny more people are bashing Torres than Ivanovic. But that's how things go. Torres was hidden most of the game, however, I don't really think he was played a ball that he could do anything with for most part of the game. Ba came on and that's when the crosses started working. I want Ba to start, but I really don't think Torres deserves the amount of criticism he has been getting when he was never played a threatening ball and he was in perfect position to score at one point bot azpi played an awful cross in. Ivanovic was terrible this game. Two LOUSY mistakes that cost us the game. Take this with a grain of salt as I am just not a Luiz fan but I think he was sub par, his passes were off for most of the game. Hazard played well, Mata couldn't finish. I thought Oscar was more efficient today than he has been for most of the most recent matches. Ramires was brutal imo. Ba had to very good chances, wish he could've scored them. That's my personal assessment of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/28/fernando-torres-roman-abramovich-Torres said: "I had a conversation with the owner of Chelsea and he trusts me. His confidence is total and that is what I needed to keep fighting and continue to be essential for the team."The Chelsea striker's words echo those of chief executive, Ron Gourlay, who said last week that the club had absolute belief that Torres would now come good for them, especially important now that Didier Drogba has left the club.Torres IS good at something : BLAGGING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Guillem Balague @GuillemBalagueWhat a shame Rafa made two defensive mistakes that cost Chelsea the game. Specially poor Rafa's back pass for the second Swansea goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/may/28/fernando-torres-roman-abramovich-Torres said: "I had a conversation with the owner of Chelsea and he trusts me. His confidence is total and that is what I needed to keep fighting and continue to be essential for the team."The Chelsea striker's words echo those of chief executive, Ron Gourlay, who said last week that the club had absolute belief that Torres would now come good for them, especially important now that Didier Drogba has left the club.That doesn't prove that Abramovic forces managers to play him... just that they believe in him...and that's from May last year...And I get a 404 from that page.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I simply find it funny more people are bashing Torres than Ivanovic. But that's how things go. Torres was hidden most of the game, however, I don't really think he was played a ball that he could do anything with for most part of the game. Ba came on and that's when the crosses started working. I want Ba to start, but I really don't think Torres deserves the amount of criticism he has been getting when he was never played a threatening ball and he was in perfect position to score at one point bot azpi played an awful cross in. Ivanovic was terrible this game. Two LOUSY mistakes that cost us the game. Take this with a grain of salt as I am just not a Luiz fan but I think he was sub par, his passes were off for most of the game. Hazard played well, Mata couldn't finish. I thought Oscar was more efficient today than he has been for most of the most recent matches. Ramires was brutal imo. Ba had to very good chances, wish he could've scored them. That's my personal assessment of the game.Ok crosses started working when BA came on?There's no scientific explanation needed, BA plays in the box and attacks the ball - hence creating more chances than TorresTorres is the weak link up front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Ok crosses started working when BA came on?There's no scientific explanation needed, BA plays in the box and attacks the ball - hence creating more chances than TorresTorres is the weak link up front... on the wings.Fixed. When is he ever up front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If Rafa had subbed Ba in for Torres earlier. It came down to not using our chances and we had them alright. Atleast a couple of 100% chances but also a penalty call turned down. So wasn't our day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 @Muzchap: I thought your likes were gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 That doesn't prove that Abramovic forces managers to play him... just that they believe in him...and that's from May last year...And I get a 404 from that page....Well of course he won't say that, but it's perfectly clear what happened. Club's refusal to sign a striker during summer, Roman's promise to Torres after he moaned to the Spanish media, sacking a manager who decided to bench Torres in an important game... everything points to that. You can say Roman does not force managers to play him. He just sacks anyone who doesn't. Don't know what's going on with the page though, works fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. 2,742 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Also to add Ba was not offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 @Muzchap: I thought your likes were gone? It says out of likes so I keep trying and occasionally one goes through - then stops again Normally have to wait a day.... Gotta stop liking so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 That doesn't prove that Abramovic forces managers to play him... just that they believe in him...and that's from May last year...And I get a 404 from that page....He certainly forced our managers to play him this season by not buying another striker in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well of course he won't say that, but it's perfectly clear what happened. Club's refusal to sign a striker during summer, Roman's promise to Torres after he moaned to the Spanish media, sacking a manager who decided to bench Torres in an important game... everything points to that. You can say Roman does not force managers to play him. He just sacks anyone who doesn't. Don't know what's going on with the page though, works fine to me.None of that is really clear. To me all of that is really just assumptions of what has happened behind closed doors.It's because I live in a different country. I think it's one of those "Not availble in your region" things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 He certainly forced our managers to play him this season by not buying another striker in the summer.We did have Danny Boy in case you forgot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corner 456 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 It says out of likes so I keep trying and occasionally one goes through - then stops again Normally have to wait a day.... Gotta stop liking so much You just have to be a bit stricter, that's all. You're too kind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 We did have Danny Boy in case you forgot...Who the club and managers clearly never trusted as a striker. It was an odd choice not to buy another striker over the summer and instead spend all of their money on attacking midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 You just have to be a bit stricter, that's all. You're too kind! Hmm it's hard so much going on some greater posters Might increase my like quota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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