Isco

[didierforever 7,349]

Hes joining madrid, doesnt mean modric will leave as Modric, Ozil, and Isco are all different.

Considering Carlo ancelotti and the way he plays, and the players we have this is the forseeable future.

(DM?)

Modric Isco

Ozil Benzema Ronaldo

(DM) Modric

Ozil Isco Ronaldo

Benzema

Modric can play very well up in those sections, and Isco has the work rate and resources to be known as the 2nd coming of Andres Iniesta.

If bale joins Madrid, it will be a disgrace. Would be a battle with ozil imo.

Di Maria to be sold.

Alonso to leave at end of season.

Gundogan to join afterwards.

News has it that pellegrini was fuming on friday when madrid took isco away from city because he thought he could already count on him as a player.

Silva Isco Navas would have been terrifying.

do u actually see modric playing a big role for RM in the next season? what about khedira? plus as much as i have seen ozil, he seems way more effective thru the center than on the wings, dont u think so?

also silva isco navas looks great on the paper but just feel they would have been bullied in big games the way city bullies chelsea. physically too shaky.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Just checked Bluemoon, their Isco theard is on 85 pages in 3 hours, Apperentley someone with a source said there is still hope

[Special Juan 28,140]

Just checked Bluemoon, their Isco theard is on 85 pages in 3 hours, Apperentley someone with a source said there is still hope

I have just been over there and you will not read as much crap as that in one year.......Apparently Monreal has said he has chosen Madrid.

You would think nobody was entitled to turn them down.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Believe me guys, everyone in spain has it as done deal.

Nacho Monreal has already given his best wishes and Rudy Fernandez ( Real madrid basketball player) is already asking for his shirt to come out.

The top spanish media put him in our pockets and so does everyone else, even daily fail and the mirror.

Madrid and City also have a non agression pact. At this point Madrid have the better offer, Isco wants madrid, and city have nothing but to shrug.

@ Didier, Ozil doesnt have the stamina, work rate, or resources to play in the middle in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 along with two other midfielders.

His lack of being able to track back effectively, and have the tools that guys like kroos or iniesta have, have led to much of the failure madrid has gone through with its already desastrous midfield.

Isco is Iniesta v2, and regardless of whether we play with 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 even at age 21 Isco is more resourceful and capable of playing capably in the middle pocket.

Ozil would be more effective coming through the right, and helping by track back a bit when Daniel Carvajal ( Real Madrid new young right back which i rank as best young rb in the world) overlaps.

Meaning that if anything Ozil will be in the spot i pointed.

Di Maria has one foot out the door, he might leave even if bale doesnt join, but if bale does join ( which i dont want) then di maria is out 100 percent.

Khedira as much as i respect his work ethic , is a piece of shit.

And alonso is on his last year, it doesnt seem like we will renew him ( we shouldnt), and hes too immobile to do any good.

Both Khedira and Alonso are so past it that considering that madrid has talent like modric, isco, ozil, and are apparently going for kondogbia and possibly another DM, those two formations i posted probably have a 70 percent chance, if not more of occuring.

Modric has good work rate, with a good DM behind him to break up play, and also Isco who has good work rate, he would be like having a player like Thiago in madrid.

We played Modric there in our home game in the semi final of the cl against dortmund and he had his best game of the season, going back to defend, and in the middle to distribute, and on the attack to shoot, if he has help from isco and a good dm, it would be disastrously sexy and powerful football at the very least.

[Toli 977]

Hope this mean Modric will be sold to us.

no it wont mean modric will be sold to us. modric will play CDM, while isco will play AMF/on the wing. modric will stay at madrid, thats for sure.

^ özil has been awful on the right. he is clearly better from the centre of the midfield. dont know if you really watch any real madrid games, if looking at your comments towards Di Maria and Özil playing on the wing. also Di Maria will benefit from Carvajal, because finally he has someone on the wing who supports the attack and he hasnt got to go 1 vs 2/3 everytime he gets the ball.

and saying khedira is a piece of shit...smh.

[DDA 9,941]

He's been sold to Madrid it seems. Great news keeping him away from Citeh. Missing out on Cavani and Isco, they look like they'll be a team not worth worrying about too much.

Extreme sarcasm right?

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

@ Toli i cant tak any of your comments seriously with all due respect.

Khedira is jack sht if you want a competent midfield. I wonder what you see in him, but hes nothing to be proud of.

I dont know what games you look at but you have to understand that with the players and coach madrid now has, that is one of the places to expect to see ozil in and he has not been horrible ffs lol, he will look much better with an overlapping carvajal and a good creative midfield around him.

He is much comfortable drifting behind the forwards, please dont imagine him as a winger lol.

Get di maria out of your head too. Guy is dead here the way i see it.

And please dont refer to modric as a CDM lol, he will never have the defensive abilities to be deemed such.

Hes a hard working cm that will work in either a 2 or 3 man midfield.

DM

Modric Isco

Ozil Benzema Ronaldo

DM Modric

Ozil Isco Ronaldo

Benzema

are the two most likely outcomes.

4-3-3 Is most desirable outcome with a good dm behind the likes of the good work rate players of modric and isco.

In any case if di maria stays, he wont be a starter. Unless carlo is unable to fit in Ozil well enough.

Best thing carlo could do is make the team a bit flexible.

[BOSS 372]

@ Toli i cant tak any of your comments seriously with all due respect.

Khedira is jack sht if you want a competent midfield. I wonder what you see in him, but hes nothing to be proud of.

I dont know what games you look at but you have to understand that with the players and coach madrid now has, that is one of the places to expect to see ozil in and he has not been horrible ffs lol, he will look much better with an overlapping carvajal and a good creative midfield around him.

He is much comfortable drifting behind the forwards, please dont imagine him as a winger lol.

Get di maria out of your head too. Guy is dead here the way i see it.

And please dont refer to modric as a CDM lol, he will never have the defensive abilities to be deemed such.

Hes a hard working cm that will work in either a 2 or 3 man midfield.

DM

Modric Isco

Ozil Benzema Ronaldo

DM Modric

Ozil Isco Ronaldo

Benzema

are the two most likely outcomes.

What if Isco benches Özil? o.O

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Perhaps Carlo can use the 4-3-2-1 he used at Milan, with Carjaval and Marcelo/Coentrao providing width.

Modric-Khedira/New DM-Alonso

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------Isco/Ozil-----Ronaldo------

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--------------Benzema-------------

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

@ boss . I dont know what you mean by this, but the fact of the matter is that Isco even at the age of 21 proves to be a much more resourceful player compared to Ozil.

ozil has problems with stamina, work rate, and defending for him to play much deeper.

Thats why he was never a good man in the xabi alonso, khedira, ozil midfield, that whole midfield stunk a$$.

He needs to play more forward, and when well implemented, ozil can pull off some good wing action as we have and will see from mata and silva.

Which both have similar problems to ozil when compared to isco.

Ozil will have to work on tracking back.

[Jase 43,479]

Perhaps Carlo can use the 4-3-2-1 he used at Milan?

Modric-Khedira/New DM-Alonso

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------Isco/Ozil-----Ronaldo------

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--------------Benzema-------------

Ronaldo behind the ST? That would be so wasted. Would not be maximizing him to his fullest ability.

[BOSS 372]

Perhaps Carlo can use the 4-3-2-1 he used at Milan?

Modric-Khedira/New DM-Alonso

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------Isco/Ozil-----Ronaldo------

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--------------Benzema-------------

He used 4-3-1-2 at Milan

Sheva-Crespo

Kaka

Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf

Maldini-Nesta-Stam-Cafu

Dida

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Ronaldo behind the ST? That would be so wasted. Would not be maximizing him to his fullest ability.

Could be an option for Carlo, Ronaldo comes inside a lot anyway to get shots off so playing him in a free role he could do whatever he wants could make him even better. He could also go out wide still and stretch teams.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Perhaps Carlo can use the 4-3-2-1 he used at Milan, with Carjaval and Marcelo/Coentrao providing width.

Modric-Khedira/New DM-Alonso

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------Isco/Ozil-----Ronaldo------

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--------------Benzema-------------

Id consider Carlo to be brain dead if he did that.

Having Isco and Ronaldo or ozil and ronaldo in such a way will never pay the same dividends in attack or defense and many other areas as other formations wood.

Aside from that, Khedira and alonso shouldnt be starters for madrid. Alonso is losing it all and khedira is far too slow and lacks far too much technical ability to be relevant.

And anyways with a player such as alonso we would need a b2b not a dm, and the long term plans of alonso leaving and khedira sucking too much D as a b2b would give me night mares to see that formation.

in my opinion most probably are 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 maybe just maybe sometimes a 4-3-1-2

DM

Modric Isco

Ozil

Benzema Ronaldo

@ RYan, any of these other formations pay more dividends to ronaldo which btw will have to track back more or else ill fly to spain and punch him in the face.

AKA WHAT BOSS posted.

If we had gundogan instead of Modric our midfield would look even more similar to that milan midfield but def not quite.

Ours would be much more variable in use when it comes to styles of football.

Gattuso and Pirlo to one dimensional.

[Jase 43,479]

Could be an option for Carlo, Ronaldo comes inside a lot anyway to get shots off so playing him in a free role he could do whatever he wants could make him even better. He could also go out wide still and stretch teams.

It's two different formation and two different roles though with different responsibilities. Not as simple as you're making it out to be.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

He used 4-3-1-2 at Milan

Sheva-Crespo

Kaka

Pirlo-Gattuso-Seedorf

Maldini-Nesta-Stam-Cafu

Dida

He also used 4-3-2-1 too at Milan I'm sure.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Ok it seems 4-3-2-1 doesn't seem too popular hahahahhahahahahahahaha

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Today in modern football you need great team work and a bit of flexibility. With someone like Klopp madrid could be gods.

Imagine if Kondogbia lives up to the hype, Gundogan goes to madrid, and ozil ( which im confident he will) is able to play to the right...

Kondogbia

Gundogan Isco

Ozil Benzema Ronaldo

Plus a million other variables with guys like khedira, modric, maybe di maria on the bench..

on top of that madrid castilla starlet jese, and carvajal overlapping like a king.

Madrid have the two best young rb and cb in the world imo at 21 and 20 respectively. ( de sciglio is only young competition do dani carvajal atm)

Isco is along those lines as well, with gotze.

With kondogbia and gundogan, this team will have enough gasoline for a long time.

Bale could of course make it harder for ozil, game over for di maria, impossible for jese, and limit our variability with such a one diemensional player like bale.

He wont leave spurs this window im confident. Hopefully madrid do well, bale has a putrid season, and zidane and carlo convince perez out of bale.

[BOSS 372]

@ boss . I dont know what you mean by this, but the fact of the matter is that Isco even at the age of 21 proves to be a much more resourceful player compared to Ozil.

ozil has problems with stamina, work rate, and defending for him to play much deeper.

Thats why he was never a good man in the xabi alonso, khedira, ozil midfield, that whole midfield stunk a$$.

He needs to play more forward, and when well implemented, ozil can pull off some good wing action as we have and will see from mata and silva.

Which both have similar problems to ozil when compared to isco.

Ozil will have to work on tracking back.

To be honest in my opinion i would prefer Isco to Ozil,i watch alot of RM matches too as my bro is a Madridista and i think that Ozil is lazy. He also does not finish quite well in big games.

Ozil is not good in the counter attacks compared to Isco and RM is a counter attacking team so Isco fits the bill imo.

P.S. i think that Ozil would be a horrible winger.

[Zinedine Iniesco 172]

Ozil would not serve as winger, there are teams like spain which use guys like silva to great effect, ozil would be implemented in a different way, but his movements, and crossing abilities along with daniel carvajal overlapping leave a great taste in my mouth.

Im worried about his work rate.

Isco better than ozil at counters? i wouldnt say that atm.

Ozil has bullsht finishing. hes not confident enough.

If you look at his match against barcelona in copa del rey at camp nou in 2011/2012, thats as confident as ive seen him, and he had tremendous dribbling, shots, and passing.

He needs more of that.

If he does not finish all too well its also because of how the team has been built around him.

He also doesnt have the best of stamina.