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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Who's going to cross it to him? Willian, maybe, I guess. Hazard with his opposite foot? That's not his game. Azpi either.

I don't see how Benteke would suit us at all. Especially not together with Diego.

Didn't necessarily mean to cross to inside the box, but more someone for the other striker to play off. Diego doesn't AT ALL have the aerial nor the ball retention abilities to play that role. 

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What a year does is crazy. This time last year, so many fans would probably have wanted him when he was at Villa. I recall a few people on here wanting him and majority of people stated he was better than Lukaku etc but one bad season changes everything. I mean look at the quote from a member here. Several people liked this post. Nothing wrong with it, because Benteke was top class at Villa however now everyone's perception is that he is not good enough. Yes, he has been poor at Liverpool but let's face facts, he does not suit Klopp's style of play and generally Liverpool did not get the best out of him. He still scored a respectable amount of goals for a player who regularly was benched.

That being said, I don't think we should go for him. Just amazes me how people's perception change of a player so drastically.

 

 

A mate told me that after Jose decided not to go after one of Eden's best friends he fucked us on purpose.

Just for the lolz. [emoji4]

Anyway you do have a point there.

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16 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

I doubt that the rumor is true, but this actually makes sense, at least to me.

If we are going to play with 2 strikers under Conte (which I REALLY hope is the case) we are going to need one of them to be a big player who can be the focal point of the attack, like Benteke.

While it would make sense to get a player with an aerial presence to pair up with Costa i just don't see how we'd be able to keep a solid defensive shape with the rest of the remaining 8 field players, which would include both Hazard and Fabregas.

1 of them with 3 other hard working players could work but both of them ? No way. Hazard doesn't have the engine to keep going up and down that line while Fabregas can't cover the ground he'd need to cover if it was just three of them.

If we do play a 2 striker system i can only see it working if Hazard is one of the 2 strikers and Fabregas is surrounded by players who are able to cover  alot of ground.

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20 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

While it would make sense to get a player with an aerial presence to pair up with Costa i just don't see how we'd be able to keep a solid defensive shape with the rest of the remaining 8 field players, which would include both Hazard and Fabregas.

1 of them with 3 other hard working players could work but both of them ? No way. Hazard doesn't have the engine to keep going up and down that line while Fabregas can't cover the ground he'd need to cover if it was just three of them.

If we do play a 2 striker system i can only see it working if Hazard is one of the 2 strikers and Fabregas is surrounded by players who are able to cover  alot of ground.

Honestly? I don't see Hazard lasting too long under Conte...unless he is willing to sacrifice part of his attacking game. You can argue that would be bad for the team but I think that is how Conte would act.

And I don't think Hazard can play the second striker role, if anything that role would require a player with a bigger defensive work-rate than a winger because for a modern 4-4-2 to work the second striker must be willing to drop back and prevent the midfielders from being outnumbered. Tevez and Rooney play that role ideally, but I think Costa can do it too. If he can do it as well, then we can probably afford a Cesc in midfield.

Of course, all of this is speculation as we don't have any clue as to what formation Conte has in mind. 

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3 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Honestly? I don't see Hazard lasting too long under Conte...unless he is willing to sacrifice part of his attacking game. You can argue that would be bad for the team but I think that is how Conte would act.

And I don't think Hazard can play the second striker role, if anything that role would require a player with a bigger defensive work-rate than a winger because for a modern 4-4-2 to work the second striker must be willing to drop back and prevent the midfielders from being outnumbered. Tevez and Rooney play that role ideally, but I think Costa can do it too. If he can do it as well, then we can probably afford a Cesc in midfield.

Of course, all of this is speculation as we don't have any clue as to what formation Conte has in mind. 

I don't think so. I remember the same thing was said when Mourinho was confirmed as our manager.

People were also worried that Hazard would struggle under Mourinho because he wasn't a "Mourinho player" (high workrate) but Hazard ended up being a key player for Mourinho and played his best season under him.

Conte gets described as a manager that changes his formation to suit the players he has available so i doubt he's going to shoehorn Hazard into a role that would take away a large part of his attacking game next season.

Despite Hazard's poor season he's still our best attacking player in the squad. Pretty sure Conte would want to bring out the best rather then force him into a role that would limit his influence on our attacking game.

 

Ofcourse every player needs to work under Conte. Conte doesn't really seem to do free roles. Even as a striker Hazard would have to drop a bit deeper to like you say help out our midfielders so they don't get outnumbered but he could share that burden with Costa. (or maybe Costa could drop deep while Hazard stays higher)

I still think that the role of second striker is less taxing then as a wide midfielder. Wide midfielders have to drop deeper as fullbacks push up really high but DM's usually won't push up that high.

Even if they do, one of the fullbacks or one of the other midfielders would have to drop back to make sure they aren't playing man to man at the back. No team in the world plays man to man at the back.

Managers always make sure they have a spare player in case they lose the ball and get countered.  

Having said all that i actually believe a 4-3-3 would be better. 2 fullbacks pushing up high allowing Hazard and Willian to drift inside. 3 man midfield with a strong DM (Kante ?), Fabregas and a strong  box to box player (Nainggolan ?).

Like you say though pure speculation as we don't know what formation he actually wants to play.

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Liuxas said:

 

Speechless:blink: Average Average player!!!. Something wrong with Premier League. It may be even worse in the future. 

Dybala to Juventus. £27m

Benteke to Crystal Palace. £32m 

It's not just the PL. Higuain went for 75m. You think Dybala would've cost 27m if he was being sold this season? 

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2 hours ago, The Skipper said:

It's not just the PL. Higuain went for 75m. You think Dybala would've cost 27m if he was being sold this season? 

And you must know why he went for 75. Because of De Laurentiis most hated Seria A chairman. Who doesn't sell his players and think they all worth 100mln. The same was with Lavezzi and Cavani. Yes Dybala would cost same for Juventus because of normal prices in Seria A and good relationships between Juventus and Palermo.

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22 hours ago, Liuxas said:

 

Speechless:blink: Average Average player!!!. Something wrong with Premier League. It may be even worse in the future. 

Dybala to Juventus. £27m

Benteke to Crystal Palace. £32m 

Average player? You're having a laugh surely? Yes, he was shit at Liverpool but at Villa he was a very good player. He has a proven scoring record in the Prem. I would have had him here at that money... 

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Crystal Palace confirm signing of Christian Benteke from Liverpool as Belgian joins for club-record £32m

  • Crystal Palace have been trying to sign Christian Benteke for weeks 
  • Eagles finally have their man as Liverpool striker signs four-year deal 
  • Belgium striker Benteke's £32million move is a club-record fee
  • The 25-year-old travelled to London for a medical with Palace on Friday 

By BEN NAGLE FOR MAILONLINE 

PUBLISHED: 19:19 +10:00, 20 August 2016 | UPDATED: 19:36 +10:00, 20 August 2016

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3750201/Crystal-Palace-confirm-signing-Christian-Benteke-Belgian-joins-Liverpool-32million.html

 

 

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Think he'd be a fantastic Plan B, backup striker just like Llorente would be. Not sure it would make any sense at all for Benteke when he's got a nice starting role for a decent club already. 

Non-story as Palace would probably demand £40m or something for him as he's their main man.

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