Barbara 15,149 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Have you read me saying we shouldnt trigger it? I was simply explaining the fact the clause exists doesnt necessarily mean Atletico will have to actually pay it...I dont think we should allow Courtois to play, but I also wouldnt be surprised if he did!no, you're the one who didn't understand me because I never used the word shouldn't or included you in the answer, I was talking strictly about us as a club. It's very clear English (and someone else answered you exactly the same just after me), so I don't get your answer?What's the point of creating such clause after the Super Cup match - that is a mickey mouse trophy - not to use it? It makes no sense if the club didn't trigger and I'll be VERY surprised if we didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ze Mario 638 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 really 9M is the amount that ATM has to pay? could really do well to minimize the damage with torres' salary AswinR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 no, you're the one who didn't understand me because I never used the word shouldn't or included you in the answer, I was talking strictly about us as a club. It's very clear English (and someone else answered you exactly the same just after me), so I don't get your answer?What's the point of creating such clause after the Super Cup match - that is a mickey mouse trophy - not to use it? It makes no sense if the club didn't trigger and I'll be VERY surprised if we didn't.You dont need toget all bitchy about it!I just thought you implied I was saying we wouldnt trigger the clause since you used "havent we".Sorry if I misunderstood... Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I hope we avoid Atletico at all costs, I have a feeling they would be our toughest opponent out of the 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannyfreshh 164 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I want bayern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duren batu 15 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Chealsea has nothing to lose, unlike the other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I don't get all the "let's avoid Atletico posts", they're good but Bayern and Real are better sides with more experience in this stage than Atletico Barbara, Chelsea Legend 11 and Ramzi 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I don't get all the "let's avoid Atletico posts", they're good but Bayern and Real are better sides with more experience in this stage than AtleticoExperience doesn't really matter that much, Barcelona are far more experienced than Atletico in the CL QF, where did that bring them? kellzfresh and Mohammed Seif 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I don't get all the "let's avoid Atletico posts", they're good but Bayern and Real are better sides with more experience in this stage than AtleticoATM is a BETTER team than RM. they have proven that in LA LIGA, CL, in the matches they played against barca and RM this season. hence the "lets avoid ATM" posts. moreover chelsea and ATM tie would be a defensive stalemate which would be decided on a moment of magic or a setpiece.we have a way better chance against RM who are weak defensively. moreover jose would know each of those players inside out and play accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 First of all, the clause is 8m. Secondly, why should Chelsea allow Atletico to use Courtois for free? I would say, either Atletico pay 8m or he won´t play. It´s very simple. Since Atletico cannot afford to pay, perhaps Chelsea may be better off to face them instead of Real or Bayern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Who cares who we get? No-one will want to face us and for me that shows just how far we've come this season already. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing us play Real Madrid because I'm getting a bit bored of playing Bayern (I'm fantastically spoiled by this club) but I'm just relieved that we're back where we belong and deservedly so. Mohammed Seif, AswinR, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 ATM is a BETTER team than RM. they have proven that in LA LIGA, CL, in the matches they played against barca and RM this season. hence the "lets avoid ATM" posts. moreover chelsea and ATM tie would be a defensive stalemate which would be decided on a moment of magic or a setpiece.we have a way better chance against RM who are weak defensively. moreover jose would know each of those players inside out and play accordingly. Your points are well taken. However, just one & the most important one. Real players will be motivated to play against Jose, greatly. His quarrels & all with the club. Recently, he called them son of bitches & that alone is a great motivation. Avoid Real at all cost, for me. AswinR and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Special Juan 28,141 Posted April 10, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 10, 2014 Give us anyone, and whilst we talk about how good others are, who would really want to face us with the backbone and mental attitude we show? Barbara, Eden2020, sdrcfc and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Your points are well taken. However, just one & the most important one. Real players will be motivated to play against Jose, greatly. His quarrels & all with the club. Recently, he called them son of bitches & that alone is a great motivation. Avoid Real at all cost, for me.dude, he dint call them "son of bitches" RECENTLY. it was during his time in RM, when he was their coach and he said it in his own dressing room when one of RM players broke his order of not speaking to the media. if RM players will be motivated, so will jose and you can bet anything in the world that he ll have all of our players as motivated as himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Drawing Bayern MunichAdv: They'll dominate only some aspect of the game and we've shown again and again we can cope with their tikitakaDis Adv: They'll be more focused since don't have to worry about the bundesliga anymoreDrawing AMAdv: They're the least experienced at this stage and they're not as talented as the restDis Adv: I believe they're our tactical nemesis much like liverpool back in 2005- 07Drawing RMAdv: Not many positve in drawing them right now but, perhaps, the overall pressure of expectation in winning the 10th european trophy might work agains themDis Adv: If Carlo gets his tactics right, their dominance of the game will be total. Besides, the players and Carlo will be extra motivatedso I'd like to get them in this order ... BM, AM, RM Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 dude, he dint call them "son of bitches" RECENTLY. it was during his time in RM, when he was their coach and he said it in his own dressing room when one of RM players broke his order of not speaking to the media. if RM players will be motivated, so will jose and you can bet anything in the world that he ll have all of our players as motivated as himself. Recently or before or in some book...who cares when? He insulted them. That alone cannot be omitted.To me, that´s a threat to avoid. Real has plenty of power up front. These guys can score, had scored plenty of goals. Avoid Real, for me. Iva suspended, Hazard might be out due to injury, Salah, Matic not eligible, Real just might be too much for Chelsea, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Recently or before or in some book...who cares when? He insulted them. That alone cannot be omitted.To me, that´s a threat to avoid. Real has plenty of power up front. These guys can score, had scored plenty of goals. Avoid Real, for me. Iva suspended, Hazard might be out due to injury, Salah, Matic not eligible, Real just might be too much for Chelsea, in my opinion.he said it when he was their manager. what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room. thats the golden rule that RM players broke. even after that, players like CR, arbeloa, ozil have come out in FULL support of him. how many instances have u heard of SAF abusing his players. it is different when things are spoken in public and within the 4 walls of the dressing room.bayern can score a lot of goals too, ATM dont concede any goals.iva will be suspended against those 2 teams too, hazard might be injured against those 2 too and matic and salah will not be elligible irrespective of who we draw. how does it make a difference.the fact is RM would tactically suit us and have the worst defense of the 3 options irrespective of how good their attack is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 he said it when he was their manager. what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room. thats the golden rule that RM players broke. even after that, players like CR, arbeloa, ozil have come out in FULL support of him. how many instances have u heard of SAF abusing his players. it is different when things are spoken in public and within the 4 walls of the dressing room.bayern can score a lot of goals too, ATM dont concede any goals.iva will be suspended against those 2 teams too, hazard might be injured against those 2 too and matic and salah will not be elligible irrespective of who we draw. how does it make a difference.the fact is RM would tactically suit us and have the worst defense of the 3 options irrespective of how good their attack is.As I said, when he said it, it´s irrelevant now. Leave it alone. Real will not suit Chelsea. They have too much power up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 he said it when he was their manager. what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room. thats the golden rule that RM players broke. even after that, players like CR, arbeloa, ozil have come out in FULL support of him. how many instances have u heard of SAF abusing his players. it is different when things are spoken in public and within the 4 walls of the dressing room.bayern can score a lot of goals too, ATM dont concede any goals.iva will be suspended against those 2 teams too, hazard might be injured against those 2 too and matic and salah will not be elligible irrespective of who we draw. how does it make a difference.the fact is RM would tactically suit us and have the worst defense of the 3 options irrespective of how good their attack is.How do Real suit us more tactically than Bayern do? Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 How do Real suit us more tactically than Bayern do?defensively weaker full baks (carvajal-Marcelo vs lahm-alaba). Definitely weaker defensively as a team. Wingers who don't track back (cr and bale. And the RM bale is different than the spurs bale, the tracking back is minimal)One dimensional attacks.Jose's know how of the players' strength and weaknesses AswinR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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