CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 So are you ok w/ FSW subs? You don't believe Ba's inclusion could have helped our cause? You don't think Supa Frank, knowing that we needed a goal & he did too would have helped? Like someone else pointed out, maybe some fresh legs in the middle of the back to help Ramires & Luiz? So I am blaming FSW. Call me a rafa hata. I will gladly wear that badge everyday. Remember, this is Chelsea Football Club & not LFC!!!Nope, I didn't say that, in fact I said the sub was idiotic (benayoun one because the Hazard one was forced by injury). But it's not just black or white, Rob. It's not either you hate everything Rafa does or love them all. You can both criticize and give credit when needed. Today he got his tactics right, but made an idiotic sub.Yes, bringing on Ba might have got us a goal and won us the goal, but it also might have not. While we would have surely won the game had we not made those silly defensive mistakes or taken one of the countless chances we got. So, to pin all the blame on Rafa is unfair in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Worst manager at making substitutions... I honestly can't think of a manager who is that bad at substitutions that it comes close to rafa...Putting Benayoun on... Not making all 3 changes... Leaving Lampard/Ba on the bench... Torres playing 90 mins... Taking oscar off...I mean just WTF!P.S. I am not saying the reason we didn't win is because of rafa. BUT, everyone can see how stupid those decisions are. And 95% of fans in the stadium who don't have any coaching badges could have made the simple easy decisons that rafa couldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 I am not saying his subs and no subs killed our game but they could have lost it. Benayoun is weak it's incredible and letting Torres play whole game? He could not hold the ball so that the defense could relax a bit. Luckily the draw stayed but I had some serious doubts.Not saying other wise, mate. My post was aimed at the people putting all the blame on him for not winning and saying he killed our game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Putting Benayoun on...The fans' faces when they realized what has been done just says it all. Wish someone could get a pic of it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 The fans' faces when they realized what has been done just says it all. Wish someone could get a pic of it,He was coming off and the camera started panning down to reveal who it was... And i was like... OMG. of course, its his liverpool bumchum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Why the shit moses for hazard? why not ba?why yossi and not lamps?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 he has been mental with subs.either leaves them to late or make utter crap ones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 But it's not just black or white, Rob. It's not either you hate everything Rafa does or love them all. You can both criticize and give credit when needed. Today he got his tactics right, but made an idiotic sub.Well you got that right. I hated FSW when he was at lpuke. I hated him @ Inter. I have no love for him now. Yes, I will never show love for a person who came out to the press & even say, "Chelsea is a big club with fantastic players, every manager wants to coach a such a big team. But I would never take that job"So yes, I will never show no love for rafadyce. I don't believe the BS that he has saved our Bacon. I find that some unbelievable Bullshit!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I bet the tottenham fans shit themselves, when oscar came off for Benayoun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Why the shit moses for hazard? why not ba?Because we were winning at the time. Bringing on another attacker and exposing the midfield would have been a terrible decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 If hazard had a knock. Then Hazard for Moses is fine. Nothing wrong with that. Like for like as best we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Because we were winning at the time. Bringing on another attacker and exposing the midfield would have been a terrible decision. torres can continue to play as a RW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Not saying other wise, mate. My post was aimed at the people putting all the blame on him for not winning and saying he killed our game. he gets the credit when we are winning then y give him no stick when we draw a game because of his worthless subs. how could torres not have come off? why take oscar off when he was having one of his best games in a chelsea shirt. the amount of space tottenham were giving to us just outside their own box was unrealistic. put lamps in for oscar to try and take advantage. this manager seems to be so in love with 4-2-3-1 that he wont change that formantion even if we needed to whole on for 5 minutes in a CL final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 torres can continue to play as a RW...But why? Bringing on Moses, who tracks back and and is good defensively was spot on. Torres offers nothing on the wing, not even on the attack.Sorry to disappoint you all, but look for your scapegoat elsewhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 But why? Bringing on Moses, who tracks back and and is good defensively was spot on. Torres offers nothing on the wing, not even on the attack.Sorry to disappoint you all, but look for your scapegoat elsewhere.. Torres offers nothing at any place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 he gets the credit when we are winning then y give him no stick when we draw a game because of his worthless subs. how could torres not have come off? why take oscar off when he was having one of his best games in a chelsea shirt. the amount of space tottenham were giving to us just outside their own box was unrealistic. put lamps in for oscar to try and take advantage. this manager seems to be so in love with 4-2-3-1 that he wont change that formantion even if we needed to whole on for 5 minutes in a CL final. Give all the stick you want, but just don't say that that single sub in the 86th minute is what prevented us from winning when we practically gifted Tottenham two goals and wasted at least 3-4 clear-cut chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 Torres offers nothing at any place...True, but we're stuck with him and have to use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Why the shit moses for hazard? very harsh on a talented young player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 very harsh on a talented young playerMaybe.. but he forget how to pass a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I don't think any Chelsea fan should tolerate this SOB anymore, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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