Owizzy 19 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 American football - They pause the game and contest decision the match officials arrive at a concensus decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCount 146 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Tbh at the time I though it was a sending off, but looking back at it, that really is a dive, young was looking for the contact by kicking his leg backwards and even that contact was very slight and not enough to take him down. His fall was unnatural as well. Dive imo:I knew it was a dive but fuck sakes, i mean look at it, their only credible big decision of the match and its a clear cut dive, worst bit is the angle the ref seen it at clearly shows it a dive, and its clear he's falling before Ivan even touches him. cant believe i even entertained the argument that it was a sending off. Unreal.I stand by my words their a joke club of cheats and their fans are worse for celebrating in that cheating.As i already said tho when we play wide like we did today and with pace were unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 American football - They pause the game and contest decision the match officials arrive at a concensus decisionTotally different, the game stops many times. It is just one more stop...Football must start using technology, I just have no idea how. I do not want to see the flow ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybodyisready 155 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 American football - They pause the game and contest decision the match officials arrive at a concensus decisionThat's why they only have 14 minutes of gameplay out of the whole 80? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I find it hard to believe also, but I don't believe the Chelsea players would lie about something as serious as this given what has happened recently over Terry. Apparently a number of Chelsea players heard both the comments on Mata and Mikel and are willing to give statements to back it up. Sounds pretty iron clad to me. I really hope if that is the case that he's sacked from the referee's list, it shows incredible bias towards a team if he is making comments such as that to players on one team.Of course I don't think players would just make it up, but The Mail are saying Mikel/Mata/Gourlay/RDM went to Clattenburg after the game for an apology, which makes me wonder to what degree of insult we're talking about. I can understand foul language/swearing, it's part of the game on the field to be honest. If it's racial abuse, considering the FA's agenda with it lately, he has to be sacked. Mind you, he should be sacked for sheer incompetence anyway.I'm also sure Clattenburg has been involved in something like this before... Not racial abuse, but insults/verbal abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Totally different, the game stops many times. It is just one more stop...Football must start using technology, I just have no idea how. I do not want to see the flow ruined.Having another official upstairs viewing the game on live tv and able to communicate with the referee. It shouldn't take more than 1 minute really. Like for the Hernandez offside goal, we all saw it was offside 10 seconds after and the ref could have easily just chalked it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Having another official upstairs viewing the game on live tv and able to communicate with the referee.It shouldn't take more than 1 minute really. Like for the Hernandez offside goal, we all saw it was offside 10 seconds after and the ref could have easily just chalked it off.It could work, I want it to take no more than 1min.I think we could have an official constantly with a screen (upstairs). He would be able to comunicate with the 4th official just in major decisions (goal, penalty and red card).It would actually take seconds...We would have to do just like tennis. Where you have technology you use it, in minor leagues you simply dont.What I defnetly do not want is a "Coach`s Challenge System". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppi85 110 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Guys, am i the only one who thought Luiz was awful today? i am sorry to say, but he's such a liability at the back.yep, honestly not only today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Having another official upstairs viewing the game on live tv and able to communicate with the referee.It shouldn't take more than 1 minute really. Like for the Hernandez offside goal, we all saw it was offside 10 seconds after and the ref could have easily just chalked it off.Personally i think we should adopt similar rules to cricket in this regard, every match both teams get two reviews each (as in the manager has the option to stop the game and attempt to get a decision overruled twice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Yet another referee on ManUre's payroll. We definitely got the morale victory and would have won the game. We're also still top of the table and a better side than ManUre. We're a bigger threat than them to win the title already and this is without a very good Striker. This win will do nothing for them. Joke of a side who needed an offside goal to beat 9 men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I want to kick the fucking shit out of the ref if these allegations of racially abusing Mikel and Mata are true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Personally i think we should adopt similar rules to cricket in this regard, every match both teams get two reviews each (as in the manager has the option to stop the game and attempt to get a decision overruled twice).They do that also in the NFL, but the problem is it takes time and stops the flow of the game like Rmpr was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 It could work, I want it to take no more than 1min.I think we could have an official constantly with a screen (upstairs). He would be able to comunicate with the 4th official just in major decisions (goal, penalty and red card).It would actually take seconds...We would have to do just like tennis. Where you have technology you use it, in minor leagues you simply dont.What I defnetly do not want is a "Coach`s Challenge System".Honestly it would be so simple. Man watching on tv screen. Goal is scored. Man then looks at replay, 15 seconds later, he says, there is definately a reason to overturn it, or there is no reason to overturn it, or there is a chance of it being wrong but it is so close so the on field decision should stand. It takes at least 30 seconds for them to restart the game anyway. We shouldn't have an appeal system for things like whether it was a foul as that is often down to opinion and would ruin the flow. But simple things like, was it offside, was it over the line etc. I honestly can't believe how the biggest sport in the world still haven't done it yet when every other sport is using it in some way to improve thier sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 They do that also in the NFL, but the problem is it takes time and delays the flow of the game like Rmpr was saying.They don't even need challenges, just a quick review of goals or goals where there is a suspicion of offside etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samzilla 517 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 They do that also in the NFL, but the problem is it takes time and stops the flow of the game like Rmpr was saying.The simple question is what's more important. Integrity or flow? Not to mention waiting on a decision adds a tension/suspense that's not necessarily bad. The funny thing is when they go to replay and still get it wrong (happens all the time in hockey). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 In Australia when something is unclear or something is missed, the referee delegates to the 'video referee' whose decision is final. There is no interrupting or much stalling at all; some decision take a while to conclude but rarely longer than five minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Honestly it would be so simple. Man watching on tv screen. Goal is scored. Man then looks at replay, 15 seconds later, he says, there is definately a reason to overturn it, or there is no reason to overturn it, or there is a chance of it being wrong but it is so close so the on field decision should stand. It takes at least 30 seconds for them to restart the game anyway. We shouldn't have an appeal system for things like whether it was a foul as that is often down to opinion and would ruin the flow. But simple things like, was it offside, was it over the line etc. I honestly how the biggest sport in the world still haven't done it yet when every other sport is using it in some way to improve thier sport.Exactly this. It shouldn't take up to a freaking minute, and doesn't necessarily cost a lot. Just have 1 more official and put him upstairs instead of behind the goal where he doesn't even do anything anyway.The simple question is what's more important. Integrity or flow? Not to mention waiting on a decision adds a tension/suspense that's not necessarily bad. The funny thing is when they go to replay and still get it wrong (happens all the time in hockey).Getting decisions right is more important, but the concern of many people against technology is the delays, so finding an option that shouldn't take too much time is more appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,505 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 In Australia when something is unclear or something is missed, the referee delegates to the 'video referee' whose decision is final. There is no interrupting or much stalling at all; some decision take a while to conclude but rarely longer than five minutes.Didn't the manager of the referees for the NRL get sacked in Australia like a few days ago...because of a high number of 'controversial' and 'questionable' decisions made by refs/video refs over the past season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Exactly this. It shouldn't take up to a freaking minute, and doesn't necessarily cost a lot. Just have 1 more official and put him upstairs instead of behind the goal where he doesn't even do anything anyway.Getting decisions right is more important, but the concern of many people against technology is the delays, so finding an option that shouldn't take too much time is more appealing.Definately, i think we would be "ruining the game" if we start having challenges on whether it was a foul, or whether it was a corner or a throw in, but surely getting the big decisions right has got to be important. They will say people love the controversy, but i guarentee you more people would have loved to see the last 20 mins of that game in a fair way. But considering the length of time it takes to put something like this in place as it takes reviews and all sorts of hoops to jump through, and even if someone suggested it now it would probably take at least 2 years to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Didn't the manager of the referees for the NRL get sacked in Australia like a few days ago...because of a high number of 'controversial' and 'questionable' decisions made by refs/video refs over the past season?I don't know. I haven't kept up with the NRL lately. I don't think so, NRL is a pretty big deal in Australia and I would have heard about it one way or the other.But the best thing about the NRL system is that it can only be used if the ref wants it used. I'm not sure that it would work in Football but it does the job here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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