Oscar

[5354 204]

can't understand why he can do a great role as n10 for Brazil but not for us. hmmmmm

[Myself 793]

  On 24/09/2014 at 22:57, Sh0n3x said:

As for the goal itself, it's kinda a trend in football that when players score from outside the box with a low shot, not a lot of attention is turned toward the goal when you compare the headlines when the balls goes higher up. We don't see often the headlines of "Oscar scores a screamer to give Chelsea a lead" but instead is like "Oscar with a nice goal to put Cheerless through". It's only a nice goal ...

Oscar did well on this game but I must say I got disappointed with his passing on a few occasions. I feel he lacks the cutting edge passing to succeed as a n10 for us and this has been on my mind for quite a while.

That's what I was thinking too. The goal gets more attention when the ball goes in the air, but Oscar's goal couldn't have been placed any better, especially since he was 25 yards out

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

  On 24/09/2014 at 23:02, 5354 said:

can't understand why he can do a great role as n10 for Brazil but not for us. hmmmmm

That's because everybody loves mystery

[Daniel1980 1,425]

Not having a fixed starting position is clearly bringing out our players' competitive side.

Oscar and Schurrle arguing over taking a free kick was hilarious.

[pattieboyd 56]

  On 25/09/2014 at 20:41, Daniel1980 said:

Not having a fixed starting position is clearly bringing out our players' competitive side.

Oscar and Schurrle arguing over taking a free kick was hilarious.

[Barbara 15,149]

but Oscar finishes it with a wink to Schurrle, which was cute

They were probably discussing how to do it rather than who would do it.

some of his actions were on tumblr

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[iseah100 5,612]

I want him to do well so badly.:'(

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Same here.

[Styles 9,790]

  On 26/09/2014 at 03:01, iseah100 said:

I want him to do well so badly.:'(

Same, but that means he really needs to step it up several levels. As it stands he could be the next 'big' name to be sold to fund future buys.

[zolayes 14,489]

  On 26/09/2014 at 16:24, Styles said:

Same, but that means he really needs to step it up several levels. As it stands he could be the next 'big' name to be sold to fund future buys.

I hope we don't end up selling him

[DH1988 1,336]

Agreed this is make or break for him, otherwise it's psg

[Joker10 946]

https://archive.org/details/AnalyseThatPat-OscarVBoltonhLeagueCup14-15Hd

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

I don't understand why this is a "make or break season" for Oscar. How pathetically fickle. If it really is "make or break" for Oscar then it has to be the same for 5 or 6 other players at the club. He should be the least of our concerns now. Thank goodness some of you are just fans and hold no executive, decision making power within the club. And it's not as if he's been poor for the most part or anything. Apart from his poor second half to the season last season, he's been brilliant. But that blemish in his performance level is his one sin I guess. Most of our rivals will die to have such a player in their team. But, no let's "sell him to PSG" because he's not playing like Ronaldinho in his prime and living up to delusional expectations.

The fact that Chelsea is building a team for the future of course is not important. The fact that Oscar is 22 and far from his peak is irrelevant. I'll like to see Oscar's critics produce a list of attacking midfielders, specifically central attacking midfielders under 23 in world football that are better than Oscar. You'll seriously struggle to do so. Remember the grass is not always greener (Mesut Ozil anyone?) on the other side before making ultimatum's for our players.

[Barbara 15,149]

I take this being a break or make year for him in terms of his endurance in the winter. He's 23, there's no break or make at this age if people are reasonable which doesn't mean after 3 seasons here that fans, the board or himself can't conclude he can't cope with the winter days or the league's demands physically after a few months. Maybe he runs out of gas too soon.

His technical struggles are understandable, and also frustrating, but they aren't what's going to make him break or make it here.

At the same time one could expect him to be further in his development curve, he struggled to keep up with the league from winter on. Maybe he won't ever flourish here as he could for example in Spain or France. It affected his development and could jeopardize his career here, but then it's about the league, not his quality. It's similar to what I think about Mara although they struggle with different things in England.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

  On 27/09/2014 at 02:40, Barbara said:

I take this being a break or make year for him in terms of his endurance in the winter. He's 23, there's no break or make at this age if people are reasonable which doesn't mean after 3 seasons here that fans, the board or himself can't conclude he can't cope with the winter days or the league's demands physically after a few months. Maybe he runs out of gas too soon.

His technical struggles are understandable, and also frustrating, but they aren't what's going to make him break or make it here.

At the same time one could expect him to be further in his development curve, he struggled to keep up with the league from winter on. Maybe he won't ever flourish here as he could for example in Spain or France. It affected his development and could jeopardize his career here, but then it's about the league, not his quality. It's similar to what I think about Mara although they struggle with different things in England.

If not performing in the winter is a criteria for this being a make of break season for him then we might as well sell our entire squad because excluding last season, we rarely perform in the winter. Besides, the sample size is too small to draw such a conclusion. Two seasons ago under Benitez, he didn't seem to have many problems in the winter or 2nd half of the season or whatever.

The point is the impatience some of our fans show to some of our better players is not good enough. It would make sense if Oscar was a rubbish player, but he's a fantastic player so what's the problem? ffs.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Anyway, I'm still waiting for the list of CAM's in world football 23 and under that are better than Oscar or as complete as Oscar both on and off the ball.

[Barbara 15,149]

  On 27/09/2014 at 02:53, MrExcalibur100 said:

If not performing in the winter is a criteria for this being a make of break season for him then we might as well sell our entire squad because excluding last season, we rarely perform in the winter. Besides, the sample size is too small to draw such a conclusion. Two seasons ago under Benitez, he didn't seem to have many problems in the winter or 2nd half of the season or whatever.

The point is the impatience some of our fans show to some of our better players is not good enough. It would make sense if Oscar was a rubbish player, but he's a fantastic player so what's the problem? ffs.

I mean to figure out the reason why. Maybe it is because he can't cope, maybe it's because he's been burned, or last season especially was thinking about something else. Some players just don't develop as well under some circumstances compared to others. I think we could observe and come to conclusions, after all, he's been here for three seasons now. It has nothing to do with how good he is, but how much he fits. José touched this subject about him last season... he talked about his struggles. Maybe it's only a question of getting used to it, like Ramires, who also took two seasons to completely adapt, or maybe it's a question of him not performing under such circumstances. It happens sometimes.

[Myself 793]

  On 27/09/2014 at 02:54, MrExcalibur100 said:

Anyway, I'm still waiting for the list of CAM's in world football 23 and under that are better than Oscar or as complete as Oscar both on and off the ball.

Barkley and Isco are the only ones that come to mind. Can't believe people think Oscar is average.