haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 You know, rather than just making vague and ambiguous statements like "Oscar is not good enough to start for us", "Oscar is not a World Class talent", "Player X is better than Oscar", it may be helpful to the discussion if you actually elaborate and give proper reasons as to why you say that. You are only making life difficult for yourself if you don't back up what you say with reasoning and even examples.No problem. His general play is just not good enough. Vision- not good enough - passes - not good enough - technique - not good enough. Simple as that. For me he plays much much much better on the wing. Not as a winger but on the left side. His first touch is quite bad and that is the reason he finds it so hard to preform in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 No problem. His general play is just not good enough. Vision- not good enough - passes - not good enough - technique - not good enough. Simple as that. For me he plays much much much better on the wing. Not as a winger but on the left side. His first touch is quite bad and that is the reason he finds it so hard to preform in the middle.congrats mate, TalkChelsea Retard of the Year. Despiadado.Maleante, hjperdeath, iseah100 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 No problem. His general play is just not good enough. Vision- not good enough - passes - not good enough - technique - not good enough. Simple as that. For me he plays much much much better on the wing. Not as a winger but on the left side. His first touch is quite bad and that is the reason he finds it so hard to preform in the middle.lol this head of your should be examined Barbara and Rmpr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenx131313 12 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 No problem. His general play is just not good enough. Vision- not good enough - passes - not good enough - technique - not good enough. Simple as that. For me he plays much much much better on the wing. Not as a winger but on the left side. His first touch is quite bad and that is the reason he finds it so hard to preform in the middle.I swear you come here to troll. I'd pay a lot of money to see you try and run a soccer club, just to prove to you how wrong you are. Oscar is just a bit inconsistent, once he finds form he will be an amazing player. I'm excited to see how he plays in the world cup, hopefully home fans can help him out. Rmpr, Muzchap, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 He played like a technician yesterday. Helped us with possession and distribution. Him and salah were like glue on the left wing for a moment. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Now now lads, I know you guys don't agree with haranr's posts but there is no need for any nasty name calling here..No problem. His general play is just not good enough. Vision- not good enough - passes - not good enough - technique - not good enough. Simple as that. For me he plays much much much better on the wing. Not as a winger but on the left side. His first touch is quite bad and that is the reason he finds it so hard to preform in the middle.Erm, oook.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Milan 17,956 Posted April 14, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 14, 2014 Brazilians dee25, Dion, Kieran. and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 That is bullshit. You shut the fuck up idiot.To even be linked with those teams, means you have to know how to play. Don't be retarded, Oscar will be a world class talent next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Brazilians If we somehow manage to pip L.pool to the title, this gif HAS to be posted on rawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 To even be linked with those teams, means you have to know how to play. Don't be retarded, Oscar will be a world class talent next year.No. He is good but not good enough. What does world class talent mean?!?! I want a world-class player not a world-class talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Now now lads, I know you guys don't agree with haranr's posts but there is no need for any nasty name calling here..Erm, oook..........I am right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I swear you come here to troll. I'd pay a lot of money to see you try and run a soccer club, just to prove to you how wrong you are.Oscar is just a bit inconsistent, once he finds form he will be an amazing player. I'm excited to see how he plays in the world cup, hopefully home fans can help him out.YOU ARE SO BLIND. Have you seen Oscar's first touch for example??? Just bad. Overall he is good but not world-class, not close. As a number 10 he is horrible, he is no where near a good playmaker. He shouldn't be the playmaker cuz he isn't, he should try and create chances that for me he is better at. I also think he is brilliant defensivly the way he reads the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 lol this head of your should be examinedYou prove me wrong and we'll talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 congrats mate, TalkChelsea Retard of the Year.Sure while not one of you guys can explain why I am wrong. I told you what he is bad at and you have nothing to say. A good playmaker he isn't and will never be. A good midfielder sure, might even be world-class but right now no close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I want you again to understand my claim! Oscar is good, I love him but he is not a good playmaker, not world-class. I believe we need another world-class AM next to Hazard. And just a small point, I think Oscar is better than Willian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted April 14, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 14, 2014 YOU ARE SO BLIND. Have you seen Oscar's first touch for example??? Just bad. Overall he is good but not world-class, not close. As a number 10 he is horrible, he is no where near a good playmaker. He shouldn't be the playmaker cuz he isn't, he should try and create chances that for me he is better at. I also think he is brilliant defensivly the way he reads the game.Awful, just awful... The Skipper, Rmpr, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I am truly sorry but as I see it now Oscar is just not good enough to play a starter in Chelsea next season, please someone change my mind and make me understand why we should keep him.According to you, no Chelsea player is good enough to start for Chelsea.... You are very critic about every player, i dont get it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar 441 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I want you again to understand my claim! Oscar is good, I love him but he is not a good playmaker, not world-class. I believe we need another world-class AM next to Hazard. And just a small point, I think Oscar is better than Willian.I guess we should replace Hazard with Bale or Ronaldo or Reus as well...Also, we had Mata next to Hazard and that sure turned out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted April 14, 2014 Share Posted April 14, 2014 Brazilians I wonder what on earth that is.LOL that's the funniest thing I've seen in a while and look how everyone is sort of not moving properly or whatever and Wills is running the show super excited about the whole thing.thanks a lot for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted April 14, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted April 14, 2014 Sure while not one of you guys can explain why I am wrong. I told you what he is bad at and you have nothing to say. A good playmaker he isn't and will never be. A good midfielder sure, might even be world-class but right now no close enough.okay, let me do the drill for you as it seems nobody is bothered enough saying the obvious to you.As many said he's inconsistent because he's 22. He's received a lot of praise from Mourinho, Scolari, Buffon, pundits, other coaches because of what they can see, not because they picked a kid to praise.He's shown he has a huge ceiling based on things he does out of nothing like that goal. A goal like that isn't luck. He's played similar stuff for us in the last two seasons. He's got a very good finishing, he distributes balls very well, he's got a good vision and for a while this season he's tried the splitting passes - more mistakes than right ones - in a few matches because I think Mourinho released him to do as such. His first touch is very good I don't know what makes you believe otherwise. Those things and much more are common in his game when he's in form, the thing is he's been having a dip of it - something expected from a 22yo. Let's not forget Hazard for example, was nowhere in good form this season until december or last season between october and january. And that's because those kids are just that, kids. They have to grow.So about the time José asked the team to change, when he came to the conclusion he had to work in the defense first, and we've switched our style around the Arsenal match in december, he limited his attacking actions. It has nothing to do with his dip of form, which came a couple of weeks later and he really struggled for a while.I watch this boy playing for Brazil and I know it's only a matter of time before he's comfortable enough playing that level more consistently. It's much easier for him to play in a NT system (which even England's NT is different from English football) because of the space, the less physicality, the pace of the matches. I've been questioning myself if he'll ever be able to fully develop and reach his potential at Premier League. But that's only a vague question because there hasn't been enough time to say as much. I see glimpses of a very special player, and when he's in form those glimpses are quite often.We can't expect him to replace Mata because they're different kind of players and I think that's the nail of the problem. People expecting him to be Mata reloaded or improved are in for something else. They aren't nearly the same kind of player. While Oscar is creative and has vision to an extend, Mata is special. But Mata has a lot of other limitations that make his creativity and vision a liability for a football as physical as English - which means going to United instead of moving out of England was a mistake imo.But Oscar showed us many times he has the potential, the ability and the talent. He just need to nurture, mature and develop those things further and then be consistent about them. I don't know how you failed to see it. But to each their own... kellzfresh, dee25, duren batu and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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