Oscar

[Kinol 337]

No injuries.He didnt play for around 4 months but that was because of contract problems between Sao Paulo and Internacional

I got this from his Wikipedia page, so i dont know if its true...

Oscar's first season at Internacional was blighted by injury. However, he excelled in the 2011 season, making 44 appearances, scoring 13 goals and creating 13 assists.

[Peace. 4,352]

Oscar, Hazard, Mata will all drift towards the centre limiting width. All three will also try to dictate play and probably just end up getting in each other's way.

This is exactly where the manager's coaching skills intervene, bro. If our manager cannot manage to give them the right instructions, and fails to be respected by them, then yes, these three players will end up walking in each other's way.

Though, if our manager tells them the right things to do on the pitch, and if they respect what Di Matteo told them to do, there shouldn't be any problems. Oscar, Hazard and Mata seem to be three clever players. The belgian and spaniard have the abilities to play in various positions on the pitch, as it seems to be also the case for Oscar.

Oscar said he was ready to play wherever the coach was asking him to play. Mata doesn't come across as a man who doesn't go against his coach's instructions. As for Hazard, I don't know enough of his temper. But all in all, there neither shouldn't be any problem regarding their willingness to play 'out of position'.

The bottom line is : if Roberto Di Matteo gets his job right, we shouldn't be worried about your concern.

[Land 331]

I got this from his Wikipedia page, so i dont know if its true...

He wasnt even a starter in 2010 so idk

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Surely the fact he is only 20 is another reason to get more excited about him... As in he can play for loads more years and is still improving... If the alternative in that 3 is going to be Raul Merieles or Ramires, then we are entitled to get excited about the prospect of Oscar... He doesn't have to have an amazing first season, but the kid has a lot of talent, and i have no doubt our team is better with him in it that not... Adding to the fact he could have went to twattenham, makes this a great thing for Chelsea...

I agree with this. He'll only be 21 this season so him not being a superstar immediately doesn't mean he won't develop well. The issue is that if people expect too much right away, they will inevitably be disappointed. You saw some people on this board after Hazard's first poor pre-season game berating him. I expect Oscar to be a very good player long-term but he may take a year or two to get there.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

And where is Uruguay now mate? You're kinda disagreeing with yourself mate.

What about Spain? Are you telling me they are League One standard?

Brazil didn't play Uruguay or Spain. (And there is no contradiction in saying that Uruguay was trying and still got knocked off). and Spain left their best players at home. Brazil has faced the under-23 sides of Belarus, New Zealand, Egypt, Honduras, and South Korea. The best team Brazil will face all tournament might be Mexico and their top player is probably Giovanni dos Santos who hasn't been good enough to be on the Spurs squad. It's a very weak tournament.

[JDY 1,290]

Brazil didn't play Uruguay or Spain. (And there is no contradiction in saying that Uruguay was trying and still got knocked off). and Spain left their best players at home.

Spain left their best players at home, really? Other than Thiago (who is injured), who are these 'best players' they didn't bring?

The best team Brazil will face all tournament might be Mexico and their top player is probably Giovanni dos Santos who hasn't been good enough to be on the Spurs squad.

Egypt and Korea are arguably better than Mexico.

It's a very weak tournament.

On paper with the teams involved it look weak, yes. But they are better than you give them credit for. If these teams were so poor why have some of the supposed best players looked so average. Cavani was almost non-existent, Hulk has looked mediocre, Mata, Javi Martinez, Sturridge etc.

Only a handfall of players have been really impressive, in particular Marcelo, Romulo, and Neymar.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Brazil didn't play Uruguay or Spain

It's completely irrelevant to this argument.

You said Brazil and Uruguay are the only decent teams, and the fact is Uruguay couldn't even survive in the group stage, a group consists of GB, Senegal and UAE!

It tells you that other teams are no pushovers and you didn't give them enough credit.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

It's completely irrelevant to this argument.

You said Brazil and Uruguay are the only decent teams, and the fact is Uruguay couldn't even survive in the group stage, a group consists of GB, Senegal and UAE!

It tells you that other teams are no pushovers and you didn't give them enough credit.

No, it doesn't. Uruguay had a pretty good roster and lost to some poor teams. Britain was one of the better teams in the tournament and they weren't any good. It happens. The best team doesn't always win. It doesn't mean that the other teams were necessarily good. Brazil could have easily lost to Honduras, it doesn't mean they are a worse team., Just go and look at the Olympic rosters of the teams. Saying that they are quality is just ridiculous. Mexico is in the final and every single player except Dos Santos plays in the Mexican League which is a pretty poor league.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Spain left their best players at home, really? Other than Thiago (who is injured), who are these 'best players' they didn't bring?

Egypt and Korea are arguably better than Mexico.

On paper with the teams involved it look weak, yes. But they are better than you give them credit for. If these teams were so poor why have some of the supposed best players looked so average. Cavani was almost non-existent, Hulk has looked mediocre, Mata, Javi Martinez, Sturridge etc.

Only a handfall of players have been really impressive, in particular Marcelo, Romulo, and Neymar.

Spain didn't bring any of their best senior players. No Xavi, no Iniesta, no Ramos, etc...The logic that the competition must be good because good players have looked mediocre is ridiculous. Because Chelsea lost to Brighton, does that mean that Brighton are Champions' League contenders? Hazard played poorly, so therefore Brighton's players are really amazing. It doesn't work like that. Good players will have mediocre games against poor teams sometimes.(Especially, as was the case for most teams apart from Brazil, when the players have barely played together.) And yes, Egypt and Korea might almost be as good as Mexico because they are all poor.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Uruguay had a pretty good roster and lost to some poor teams.

So basically you evaluate a team based on its roster rather than actual performance, no?

The best team doesn't always win. It doesn't mean that the other teams were necessarily good

How can I possibly win an argument with you Sir, you said it all! lol

Brazil could have easily lost to Honduras, it doesn't mean they are a worse team.

No it doesn't, it means Honduras was not bad at all!

I think it would be meaningless to carry on this because we hold completely different perceptions, so let's drop it.

[JDY 1,290]

Spain didn't bring any of their best senior players. No Xavi, no Iniesta, no Ramos, etc...The logic that the competition must be good because good players have looked mediocre is ridiculous. Because Chelsea lost to Brighton, does that mean that Brighton are Champions' League contenders? Hazard played poorly, so therefore Brighton's players are really amazing. It doesn't work like that. Good players will have mediocre games against poor teams sometimes.(Especially, as was the case for most teams apart from Brazil, when the players have barely played together.) And yes, Egypt and Korea might almost be as good as Mexico because they are all poor.

Where did I say the competition was good? You said it was poor and I agreed with you on paper, but said they are better than you give them credit for.

Why would Spain bring players who only weeks before were heavily involved in the nations success in the Euros? Don't be ridiculous. Did you expect Team GB to bring Rooney, Gerrard, and Ashley Cole?

Sorry but your point about Brighton isn't worth replying to, stop exaggerating everything and putting words in my mouth.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Where did I say the competition was good? You said it was poor and I agreed with you on paper, but said they are better than you give them credit for.

Why would Spain bring players who only weeks before were heavily involved in the nations success in the Euros? Don't be ridiculous. Did you expect Team GB to bring Rooney, Gerrard, and Ashley Cole?

Sorry but your point about Brighton isn't worth replying to, stop exaggerating everything and putting words in my mouth.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I said that the Spain didn't bring their best players and you said "what top players did Spain not bring" and I told you which top players they didn't bring and you said "why would you expect them to bring them"? I don't expect them to take good players because it's a minor tournament but you asked.

[JDY 1,290]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I said that the Spain didn't bring their best players and you said "what top players did Spain not bring" and I told you which top players they didn't bring and you said "why would you expect them to bring them"? I don't expect them to take good players because it's a minor tournament but you asked.

So why bring up that Spain didn't take their best players as an excuse, if to you it's a minor tournament?

[Chelsea? 892]

We have to put our best players on the field, the formation is sorta irrelevant because when put in a battle, the players will figure it out.

[Kieran. 6,317]

We have to put our best players on the field, the formation is sorta irrelevant because when put in a battle, the players will figure it out.

I really, really hope this isn't our mindset.