Shane 2,275 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Bundesliga is not far off from EPL. Besides the one team dominating, 2-5 are all great teams. I like Rodriguez better than Shaw, and he'd probably cheaper.Hence why we beat Schalke 3-0 home and away and United thumped Leverkusen 5-0 in Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadenza666 221 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Luke Shaw, Ricardo Rodriguez, Alberto Moreno - good choice to have but with Ash and Lamps reaching the end of their careers, to fill up the English void and Shaw's stellar PL season would probably be the best fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 United could move for Shaw in summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/26/luke-shaw-manchester-city-manchester-united-chelseaSigh. While Shaw is a Chelsea fan I don't think that's going to be much use when Manchester we-don't-give-a-crap-about-FFP City blow us out of the water with a stupidly large bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/26/luke-shaw-manchester-city-manchester-united-chelseaSigh. While Shaw is a Chelsea fan I don't think that's going to be much use when Manchester we-don't-give-a-crap-about-FFP City blow us out of the water with a stupidly large bid.But then, there is this...Chelsea are in pole position, with Shaw being a fan of the club and the training ground in Cobham being close to where his parents live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 But then, there is this...But competing with Man City will probably inflate his price to £30m. It also means that we may potentially pull out of the running due to FFP constraints, and then you can't really blame Shaw for moving to City especially considering Chelsea might not come back in for him even if he were to reject City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,586 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It reminds me of when we where going for Hazard. 3 teams put in an offer and he chose us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 What the fuck. They have kolarov n clichy. Yet thoae fuckers want shaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 It reminds me of when we where going for Hazard. 3 teams put in an offer and he chose us. He had a release clause though and so all 3 clubs were only competing to convince the player - for Chelsea it was simple enough: high wages and reminding the player that London > Manchester. Here it's the opposite in that we need to get a bid accepted but although we don't really need to convince the player since he's already a Chelsea fan it may not even get to that stage if we are outbid (which is very possible given that we'll be competing with City now). I think it's much more difficult in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 But competing with Man City will probably inflate his price to £30m. It also means that we may potentially pull out of the running due to FFP constraints, and then you can't really blame Shaw for moving to City especially considering Chelsea might not come back in for him even if he were to reject City.Aren't Man City already look a bit dodgy in complying with the FFP rules? If they want to continue playing in Europe, I'm not sure if they can genuinely go around and splash big money to sign players for fun like in last 2-3 years. Then again, don't think Pellegrini has a lot to fix in this team with the exception of his defence and if Southampton continue to resist and be stubborn as they appear to be now, then I don't think they'll sell Shaw to them, even for £30m. City might in the end go for someone else. Heck Pellegrini might even return to Spain and raid one of the LBs from there. I'm not sure if Shaw is that kind of person or would do it but he can force Southampton's hands a little in making them sell him to us if it really comes to a bidding war.What the fuck. They have kolarov n clichy. Yet thoae fuckers want shaw.True but then again, they are probably looking at long term investment here and I believe the City's team are lacking HG or English players for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,327 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 But competing with Man City will probably inflate his price to £30m. It also means that we may potentially pull out of the running due to FFP constraints, and then you can't really blame Shaw for moving to City especially considering Chelsea might not come back in for him even if he were to reject City.If we match their bid/have a bid accepted he's ours, regardless of the wage Citeh offer him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Aren't Man City already look a bit dodgy in complying with the FFP rules? If they want to continue playing in Europe, I'm not sure if they can genuinely go around and splash big money to sign players for fun like in last 2-3 years.I guess that's possible but I wouldn't bet on it all especially for a player like Shaw. They may well be willing to break the bank as part of a long-term investment to, like you say, fill the quota for English players. I don't think they are very serious about FFP though with their owners essentially sponsoring their own club to balance the books.If we match their bid/have a bid accepted he's ours, regardless of the wage Citeh offer him.I agree but convicing Shaw is the much easier part. Matching or outbidding a club like City who seem willing to spend whatever on whoever in spite of FFP seems like an impossible task. Like Mourinho has said many times the club is working towards FFP and not grossly overspending anymore. That means that if City do come in with a £30m bid for Shaw I highly doubt we will match their bid, especially with Ivanovic and Azpilicueta now being two of Mourinho's favourites. Then it would be up to Shaw - move to City with huge prospects of winning many trophies and earning millions or pass up on the opportunity and wait on your boyhood club, who didn't think you were worth enough, to come back in for you another time. Frankly I doubt many would be surprised if Shaw thought it would be too much of a risk and agreed to move to City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If we match their bid/have a bid accepted he's ours, regardless of the wage Citeh offer him.This. It's a fairly open secret at this point. Fortunately we have two left-backs then we can flog for a bit of cash, and there's Cole's wages to lose off the books as well. Throw in the fact that he's expected to be here a long time which means any fee is amortised over about a decade and it's not a massive whack in the FFPs either.Just been called up to the England squad as well, and one of the few players deserving a spot. Honestly, he should be going to Brazil ahead of Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Either he's chuffed to bits he's got the England call up or he found out Cleverely is in the squad too... Sign him up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If anyone is interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 He will be very hard to get. Unless Saints have respect to him that if there will be two decent offers from us 20mio and City for 30mio and they will let him join us despite lower price, but because of his desire. Unlikely but only chance, or we will have to pay 30mio plus which is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 World Cup 2014: Southampton left-back Luke Shaw's reaction to his England call brings a breath of fresh air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,513 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Delighted to see Shaw in the English squadMakes perfect sense...even if he doesn't go Brazil, he'll be capped & ready to fill the void left by Ashley Cole after the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,511 Posted February 28, 2014 Share Posted February 28, 2014 i think Gibbs or Shaw will take Cole's WC spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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