Eden Hazard

[Namika 922]

Of course I did enjoy them, but those games are few and far between. We don't really have a defined style of play when the opposition gives us the ball. Most of the games we've played this season have been very bad to watch, especially when we are expected to dominate possession.

There is no plan to beat a bus, if your opponent doesn't allow you space in the center, you can just hope to pass on the wing and have a striker to put the cutbacks in. You will get some half-chances, some real chances and you have to take them. A team full of creativy everywhere on the pitch like Barcelona have problem with bus. You'll see next year with a striker like Diego Costa what we'll do with the small teams.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

That's reason why Jose is in the top of his career for the past couple of years and wanted everywhere and you people behind your laptop, wheelchairs or whatever you're in at.

This is way over the top! Absolutely no need for that.

Alright lads, let's try to keep this friendly, please. And keeping it on topic would be good too. Thanks.

I said please!

I really don't want to lock this thread but you're kinda forcing my hand. Everyone just stop the insults and get back on topic!

[Stingray 9,441]

I'm sorry mods. But this thread is a disgrace, certainly to a player of Hazards calibre. Criticism is ok, but we have passed that stage a long time ago.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

There is no plan to beat a bus, if your opponent doesn't allow you space in the center, you can just hope to pass on the wing and have a striker to put the cutbacks in. You will get some half-chances, some real chances and you have to take them. A team full of creativy everywhere on the pitch like Barcelona have problem with bus. You'll see next year with a striker like Diego Costa what we'll do with the small teams.

Namika, we are not the only team that the opposition defend deep against. Other teams don't seem to have a problem. You mention Costa, sure, he will provide some much needed quality up front, but he is not a striker that creates space for himself, though he does bully defenders. Those type of strikers are very very rare. We also need a creative CM and we also need Azpilicueta back at RB and an attacking LB on Hazard's wing to prevent teams from double marking him. Mourinho also should (I dunno, maybe he is!) focus more on build up play and less on counter-attacking football.

If we do these things, then I'm certain we will win the premier league and play some of the best brand of football in the world.

[Blue Traveler 256]

now thats quite - no VERY - insulting.

Which part was insulting?!!

There are plenty of people here communicating via their laptop, some with phones, tablet etc whom some of them might be challenged people using a wheelchair or any other aiding device! and there is no shame in that.

[Namika 922]

Actually, I saw a lot more of attractive football from Chelsea last year. Some of the combinations between Mata and Hazard were mesmerizing. The goal from Mata against Tottenham away with the sublime throughball from Hazard. Hazard's goal against West Ham at home were he and Mata had that brilliant combination. The trashing of Villa...

I think there were a lot more of memorable moments of sublime style last season compared to this season.

And actually, I loved watching Bayern under Heynckes, Barcelona under Guardiola, Roma under Garcia, and even Liverpool and City in the EPL at the moment. Football should still be entertaining. And there isn't a neutral fan in the world which liked the way Chelsea played this season. If you want to grow as a club, you should be a brand that attracts people and in that case, results aren't the only thing that are important. Sponsors, upcoming superstars and even fans want to be associated with a 'sexy' brand, not a dull one.

We had some tragic perfomances with Benitez, remember City home and away, Soton home, Reading away, etc...

The 6-0 trashing against Arsenal isn't a memorable moment, the 2-0 against PSG, the win at the Etihad, the win at Anfield, the torres winner in the last minute against City, fuck me, the supporter of this club have eaten so much caviar that now when we have tuna, it's not good enough, we should be all grateful that we have something in our mouth (metaphorically ofc).

Bayern under Heynckes took time to take a shape, Barça under Guardiola is one in a million, Rodgers took a year to shape his team, why not give that time to José ? I personnaly don't care about the style, I support the club not the style of football, we could play like QPR (god forbid) that i wouldn't care. Don't worry about sponsors (top 5 revenues in the world football), upcoming stars (Hazard joined us when we played some of the worst football ever (CL 2012), and fans comes and go. We have one of the best fanbase in the world sport, more than 300.000.000 fans.

[Blue Traveler 256]

This is way over the top! Absolutely no need for that.

I said please!

I really don't want to lock this thread but you're kinda forcing my hand. Everyone just stop the insults and get back on topic!

No insult was intended.

[Stingray 9,441]

Which part was insulting?!!

There are plenty of people here communicating via their laptop, some with phones, tablet etc whom some of them might be challenged people using a wheelchair or any other aiding device! and there is no shame in that.

You forgot the part about 'weelchairs or whatever you are in' to one of our oldest members. You should be banned tbh.

Imagine and replace 'weelchair' with gay, nigger, .. Same stuff. But you cannot see that, cant you little Chorizo?

Lovely to see you try and wiggle out of it.

[zolayes 14,489]

now thats quite - no VERY - insulting.

i dont think he likes old people ,, do thats both of us

[Namika 922]

Namika, we are not the only team that the opposition defend deep against. Other teams don't seem to have a problem. You mention Costa, sure, he will provide some much needed quality up front, but he is not a striker that creates space for himself, though he does bully defenders. Those type of strikers are very very rare. We also need a creative CM and we also need Azpilicueta back at RB and an attacking LB on Hazard's wing to prevent teams from double marking him. Mourinho also should (I dunno, maybe he is!) focus more on build up play and less on counter-attacking football.

If we do these things, then I'm certain we will win the premier league and play some of the best brand of football in the world.

And we aren't the only who has problem against the opposition defend deep, some others teams doesn't seem to have a problem with them because they have very good strikers.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

No insult was intended.

The wheelchair part was extremely inappropriate.

@Namika,@MrExcalibur100, you've strayed off topic. This thread is only for Hazard discussions. Please take this discussion to the Mouriho thread or somewhere else where it fits more.

[lionsden 4,689]

You don't have to look to Europe. Man City clearly play much much better than us. Both Liverpool and Everton play better than us with less resources. If i'm being honest. we play some of he worst brand of football among the big European clubs.

Southampton, Arsenal and Swansea as well.

[Blue Traveler 256]

You forgot the part about 'weelchairs or whatever you are in' to one of our oldest members. You should be banned tbh.

Imagine and replace 'weelchair' with gay, nigger, .. Same stuff. But you cannot see that, cant you little Chorizo?

Lovely to see you try and wiggle out of it.

You twist a word like a Belgian twists an interview!

That statement was not directed at any one! end of!

[lionsden 4,689]

Not at the level of José Mourinho, for sure, even if you had been coached by freaking Bob Paisley or SAF, they aren't at the level of José Mourinho. I'll save these posts and next year we'll talk about it.

[Stingray 9,441]

You twist a word like a Belgian twists an interview!

That statement was not directed at any one! end of!

Yes Ayatollah!

[Greyco 143]

We had some tragic perfomances with Benitez, remember City home and away, Soton home, Reading away, etc...

The 6-0 trashing against Arsenal isn't a memorable moment, the 2-0 against PSG, the win at the Etihad, the win at Anfield, the torres winner in the last minute against City, fuck me, the supporter of this club have eaten so much caviar that now when we have tuna, it's not good enough, we should be all grateful that we have something in our mouth (metaphorically ofc).

Bayern under Heynckes took time to take a shape, Barça under Guardiola is one in a million, Rodgers took a year to shape his team, why not give that time to José ? I personnaly don't care about the style, I support the club not the style of football, we could play like QPR (god forbid) that i wouldn't care. Don't worry about sponsors (top 5 revenues in the world football), upcoming stars (Hazard joined us when we played some of the worst football ever (CL 2012), and fans comes and go. We have one of the best fanbase in the world sport, more than 300.000.000 fans.

You clearly haven't been reading what I've stated earlier. It was the club's intention to play a more attractive style of football. Hence they signed Hazard and Mata. Hazard even alluded to it when he signed his contract here, that he had spoken with Abramovich and he liked the way the club saw the future with the young attacking talent they were signed or just had signed. That was a major selling point of the club in trying to persuade him to opt for Chelsea instead of all the other suitors. After 1 year where Chelsea tried to employ this new philosophy it all has been thrown out of the door. Key players for that philosophy have been moved on and we're building again towards the same style. What style I prefer has nothing to do with it, and I don't understand why you even brought it up in the discussion.

A lot of supporters keep mentioning how far off the title Chelsea were last season and the CL failure as reason to discard that new path the club chose for. Well, Liverpool were even further off and this season the were able to turn it around while being admired for their style. I find it a real shame we gave the Hazard-Mata relationship on the pitch only a single season. A season were the squad clearly lacked a Matic and an undisputed manager which influenced the performances.

I tend to visit a lot of other football boards and last season rival fans were incredibly jealous of the trio Oscar-Hazard-Mata and looking at potential transfers to rival that trio in the future because it had them scared. This season you had to look very hard to find something positive about our play.

ps: I actually completely forgot about that Arsenal game, I can't even recall one goal..

[lionsden 4,689]

And we aren't the only who has problem against the opposition defend deep, some others teams doesn't seem to have a problem with them because they have very good strikers.

So It's because they have good strikers and not because they were able to break down the resistance of oppositions that defend deep with crisp interchange, incisive, accurate passing, overlapping runs, sharp, intelligent movement and so on. let's just attribute our inability to create clear cut chances against parked defences on the lack of world class strikers shall we.

[sutro 1,026]

A storm in a glass of water, yet we have 20 pages of people flaming at eachoter.

This forum will go in a complete meltdown the day Eden is leaving the club