Eden Hazard

[zolayes 14,489]

It is just common sense? you don't have to have that glass on and think every Chelsea player is the best or top 10 in the world in their positions. Yh he is already owning him at dribbling and that is about it, the rest Suarez is just way better.

well Suarez certainly has more BITE in his game

[Stingray 9,441]

It is just common sense? you don't have to have that glass on and think every Chelsea player is the best or top 10 in the world in their positions. Yh he is already owning him at dribbling and that is about it, the rest Suarez is just way better.

Well, i followed Suarez since his dutch period and Hazard since he was 16. Both years becore i became a blues fan. So yes, it is pretty much objective. I hope you do take into account form (Suarez is now shining- remember Eden in his last Lille year), peaks (Eden peaking is quite unplayable, even more than Suarez) and age (Suarez was nowhere near Edens level at this age, though now he has more consistency due to being older).

All in all: Eden all the way, no blue tainted glasses.

[duo11bluecl 207]

Well, i followed Suarez since his dutch period and Hazard since he was 16. Both years becore i became a blues fan. So yes, it is pretty much objective. I hope you do take into account form (Suarez is now shining- remember Eden in his last Lille year), peaks (Eden peaking is quite unplayable, even more than Suarez) and age (Suarez was nowhere near Edens level at this age, though now he has more consistency due to being older).

All in all: Eden all the way, no blue tainted glasses.

Ah right fair enough if we are talking about long term I can definitely see Eden become a better player than Suarez eventually but for now like you said, he is better and that is why he will win POTY this season no matter what happens. Yep I suppose put up a choice I would rather have Hazard for his age and ability instead of Suarez form atm but then again we don't know if Eden will ever reach that potential(I hope he will)

Tbf Suarez only became a good player since 2012, before that he was a decent player but always doing mental things, now he does it less(atm) so his reputation looks better and he is getting more praise. But I don't agree with you about Hazard being unplayable when on top form, on his very best which is like against Newcastle he is just as good as Suarez, not that extra level above yet for me.

[Jase 43,479]

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Amazing player. Completely destroyed Galatasaray.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Mourinho said he doesn't really coach Hazard, he let's him do what he wants; I wish he did some coaching as he really needs to improve his positioning off the ball.

He's often just jogging on behind when we're on a counter when he should be much closer to the box, it annoys me. Brilliant game by him nevertheless.

oh and shoot for fuck sake

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Mourinho said he doesn't really coach Hazard, he let's him do what he wants; I wish he did some coaching as he really needs to improve his positioning off the ball.

He's often just jogging on behind when we're on a counter when he should be much closer to the box, it annoys me. Brilliant game by him nevertheless.

oh and shoot for fuck sake

Silly criticisms really. Hazard has improved immensely with his positioning. You can't really blame him for jogging on a counter in the last 15 mins of a game! He was pretty tired, closing down Galatasaray a lot. Even still, he still managed to get into the box and provide a gorgeous assist to the hapless, clueless Torres.

Maybe you are expecting too much. He is already the best young player in the world and one of the best players in the world, period. Maybe you are expecting him to be Jesus or something, but please be realistic.

[Weckerz 3,781]

Silly criticisms really. Hazard has improved immensely with his positioning. You can't really blame him for jogging on a counter in the last 15 mins of a game! He was pretty tired, closing down Galatasaray a lot. Even still, he still managed to get into the box and provide a gorgeous assist to the hapless, clueless Torres.

Maybe you are expecting too much. He is already the best young player in the world and one of the best players in the world, period. Maybe you are expecting him to be Jesus or something, but please be realistic.

Lol, I'm not even criticizing really. It's an aspect of his game that can and should be improved. I'm not dismissing everything else he does, I'm saying with a little more coaching or work on that aspect he'd be more effective.

[didierforever 7,349]

Mourinho said he doesn't really coach Hazard, he let's him do what he wants; I wish he did some coaching as he really needs to improve his positioning off the ball.

He's often just jogging on behind when we're on a counter when he should be much closer to the box, it annoys me. Brilliant game by him nevertheless.

oh and shoot for fuck sake

I have been shouting off rooftops. I have literally been saying in evry post match thread that EH17 needs to get more selfish. He should be shooting after having players go om their haunches rather than passing the ball to torres. (Who has now destroyed 2 of EH's brillaint moments).

I don't think his positioning in counters is bad generally. I feel today he was told to conserve his energy. He really dint take much part in the 2nd half counters and barely got out of the 2nd gear. I would say justified considerinf who we are playing on saturday.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

We were winning 2-0 and not just winning but cruising. He just played the full 90 mins on saturday and he was happy to drop back and conserve his energy, but still managed to get into the box to give Torres a great assist. When he had the opportunity to shoot, Muslera saved it.

He was named the man of the match by UEFA. He has nothing else to give fans who want him to be their personal Jesus. As far as i'm concerned, he played an awesome game and was a class apart from everybody on the pitch. Maybe because Hazard is so good that people have unrealistic expectations. Can't ask for anything else from a player who just turned 23.

[Weckerz 3,781]

I don't think his positioning in counters is bad generally. I feel today he was told to conserve his energy. He really dint take much part in the 2nd half counters and barely got out of the 2nd gear. I would say justified considerinf who we are playing on saturday.

I hear you but I'm not talking about this game specifically, I know I'm nitpicking here but I want to see more urge sometimes from him moving forward, off the ball that is.

[The Skipper 20,593]

That run he did when he skipped past about 4 players and made the last defender sit on his ass, he really should've shot. Way too unselfish.

[Coop 114]

That run he did when he skipped past about 4 players and made the last defender sit on his ass, he really should've shot. Way too unselfish.

He gave a good pas after that so blame them for not taking the present.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

His positioning and reluctance to shoot is incredibly frustrating. Somewhat glossed over another brilliant performance.

Creating for your teammates is fine but every player needs a selfish streak or a killer instinct. Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Ibrahimovic are all renowned for their playmaking ability but they won't turn down a clear opportunity at goal.

He's our top scorer and by far our best player this season (excluding our defenders) so no one will have a go at him for having a go.

Can't believe Torres wasted that pass. If you're going to be a selfish cunt you have to finish that chance.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7mMscALdAw

[Barbara 15,149]

I missed when they did this to him

but it was an amazing match by him again.

I'll join the choir and say he needs to be more selfish. Maybe not only selfish, but a bit more objective too. He's amazing, but there's definitely way more room for improvement.

And when Mourinho says he doesn't coach Hazard, it means he gives him freedom to do whatever he does. Things such as positioning I think have been coached. It's just it requires time. One of the hardest things in football is movement imo. Awareness is difficult to develop and I think it's just part of his development curve. He WILL improve. Now I just think he could be more incisive, take some risks with some shoots. A guy that dribbles like him should put himself in position to shoot. If you can dribble but can't shoot, no matter how many assists you give, you're wasting 50% of your talent. The problem current is where he dribbles. He needs to try to find space for himself. Cut inside, but not only aiming a pass, but also to pass by opponents and shoot. That's the biggest complain I'd have about him right now and seeing how we don't take our chances very well, we desperately need him to step up and just go for it.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

He just posted a pic on his instagram ^^^^^^^^^^ and on it he suffered a bruise on ankle from Chedjou. Maybe that explains why his runs and positioning were a little tentativ in the last 15 mins, around the time the foul happened. This is also the second time some idiot is bruising his heel recently. Last time it was tiote. I think our coaching staff should advise Eden to wear those ankle protector thingies that Ronaldo wears to avoid that from happening again.

We shouldn't be quick to jump to conclusions because we aren't there on the pitch with the players. That tackle definitely slowed him down a bit. Hazard has proven in his two years here more than willing to join up in counter attacks even in dying minutes. Schalke for example...Cardiff, Norwich etc. He's scored a bunch of goals from counters and from good positioning.

As far as I can see, he has very little weaknesses in his game, and once we get a top-class forward, his stats are going to be simply ridiculous. Right now, he's statistically the most creative player in Europe's top 5 league's with 92 chances created, but only 8 of those counting as assists.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

@Barbara

It's in minute 5:30 of that video.