Popular Post! Hkibou 622 Posted October 21, 2012 Popular Post! Share Posted October 21, 2012 Right now there's so much talent on the Belgian squad that and out of form Hazard won't play that much if at all.I just get the feeling that he's lacking confidence and needs to be more selfish but he's afraid to be looked at as a ball hog, but his quality is reliant on him being the primary attacking midfield component.Knowing him a little (got the chance to itw him once), i think he's heard of "the difficulty of EPL" so much, he thinks he must change in game in order to adapt but he's wrong. He feels like becoming an "intelligent" player (no better terms to use), always thinking and acting at the same time. Like a Gerrard, Xavi, Zidane ... He's obsessed with playing as a good old playmaker, and now as soon as he gets the ball he lifts up his head and checks around. The right reflexe on most of the pitch, not in the last 40 yards given his type of skills.But to me Hazard is a playmaker a lot more like Messi. Messi provokes to create opportunities, which then can be exploited. After his first touch I think he should start running with the ball toward the box without overthinking it. Just let it go, improvise and see what happens. I'm sure with the quality around him there will be good runs and opportunities will come to him. He has the flair and the talent to trust his gut when he approaches the goal. Near the box, he has the skills to shoot the ball, spot a good run and pass it, or dribble and finish himself. sureshot, Heaven17, nadavTKL and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hazard's still adapting to the EPL & working on his understanding with Mata/Oscar. He's only played like 7 EPL games and people are already worried about his place in the Belgium national team.I personally don't think we'll see the best of Hazard for another season or two..just like his Lille manager & quite a few of his Belgium team-mates suggested.It's been a lot more than 7 games for the Belgian NT and he's only had a handful of good games. I'm not giving up on him by any means and I'm very thankful that Belgium is strong enough right now that they don't have to depend on him to beat teams, but Belgium is going to need his best form soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Well yes, considering when it hit the post it was going away from the goal and had the goalkeeper not made contact with it then their would be no goal, so of course it an own goal. But that's physics for you.Sometimes a player shoot the ball, and then a defender make a small contact in the ball, and changes a little bit the direction of the ball and it went to the net. If not for that contact there would be no goal. That doesnt make it an own goal. But thats football for you. Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Sometimes a player shoot the ball, and then a defender make a small contact in the ball, and changes a little bit the direction of the ball and it went to the net. If not for that contact there would be no goal. That doesnt make it an own goal. But thats football for you.But that's going into much more vague territory. From what I understand if a player takes a shot that is on target and takes a deflection (e.g Oscar's first against Juventus) it still counts as a goal to the player who took the shot as long as the deflection isn't some freak one. The Ballack situation is a very different case. One being it hit the post (and shots that hit the woodwork (if they don't go past the line like Luiz's free kick goal) don't count as "shots on target"), and secondly, like I said it was going away from the goal, meaning that it takes (as in the previous sentances) a freak deflection that completely changes the projection of the ball that was originally going off target. Hence it counts as an own goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Come on give the lad a break.He has been performing well enough in a new and more physical league.I have no doubt that in the near future he will be one of the best in the world.He has got everything! Stingray and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I'm not sure why we are so down on him. I thought he did very well yesterday, some slick passes, a real quickness of thought and a couple of charging runs, all wonderfully topped off by that sublime pass to Mata for the third goal, that pass was something very special indeed. Stingray and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meetdoscar 335 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hazard is good but he never shoots I don't knw y? May be he is just playing more for the team. Anyway regardless he is definitely wat I hoped he will be for cfc. I think he is very similar to joe cole in terms of his probing but not as good in finishing yet but has more energy,pace and defensive awareness, a more complete team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 what will u guy say about kigawa MU bought, will u compare both talking about work rate and team support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 what will u guy say about kigawa MU bought, will u compare both talking about work rate and team supportSay what exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Say what exactly? am saying hazard is just too good and guys on here complain of one thing or other should get of hazard back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 am saying hazard is just too good and guys on here complain of one thing or other should get of hazard backAgree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 what will u guy say about kigawa MU bought, will u compare both talking about work rate and team supportWho's this Kagawa fellow? Must be a poor man's Hazard. Belgiannutt and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMXPz7mhL8 Hamilton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Even when he has a mediocre game like yesterday, he still has moments of brilliance in him. Sometimes that's enough to score a decisive goal or two. In the League, the talent gap between top players like Hazard and mid-to-bottom table players is often what makes the difference, and we should appreciate that we have multiple players of the highest calibre. Atholy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Can't see why anyone would dare complain about Eden so far, he's the fucking man. Stingray and Peppen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hkibou 622 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Hazard is good but he never shoots I don't knw y? May be he is just playing more for the team. Anyway regardless he is definitely wat I hoped he will be for cfc. I think he is very similar to joe cole in terms of his probing but not as good in finishing yet but has more energy,pace and defensive awareness, a more complete team player.Cole's goals in PL and Ligue 1 : 46 in 366 matchesHazard's : 38 in 155 matchesCole's best season in career: 8 goals in 2004/2005 Premier LeagueHazard's best season so far : 20 goals in 2011 2012 Ligue 1You might wanna reconsider ^^ Atholy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Who's this Kagawa fellow? Must be a poor man's Hazard.I think he is a poor man's Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Cole's goals in PL and Ligue 1 : 46 in 366 matchesHazard's : 38 in 155 matchesCole's best season in career: 8 goals in 2004/2005 Premier LeagueHazard's best season so far : 20 goals in 2011 2012 Ligue 1You might wanna reconsider ^^Of course you can't just compare their stats. Joe was used as a winger, Hazard has a free role. Most of Hazard's goals were scored in a single season. Cole played in a superior league, he played a supporting role (which can't be compared to being the star man of a team), he didn't take FKs and PKs, he came off the bench a lot, had to return from injury a lot (lacking match fitness), he's not been the same player for four years due to horrible injuries etc. All kinds of factors to consider.I don't know if you watched Chelsea back then but Cole had a good shot on him and was a pretty good finisher in his prime. Muzchap and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It's been a lot more than 7 games for the Belgian NT and he's only had a handful of good games. I'm not giving up on him by any means and I'm very thankful that Belgium is strong enough right now that they don't have to depend on him to beat teams, but Belgium is going to need his best form soon.Messi has only started to replicate his club form internationally quite recently. Give him time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Cole's goals in PL and Ligue 1 : 46 in 366 matchesHazard's : 38 in 155 matchesCole's best season in career: 8 goals in 2004/2005 Premier LeagueHazard's best season so far : 20 goals in 2011 2012 Ligue 1You might wanna reconsider ^^Except hazard was the star of Lille while Cole was mostly a rotation player here. From what I've seen from Hazard so far, I have to agree that Cole was a better finisher. Although Eden is far more superior in his movement and football intelligence and obviously his dribbling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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