Blue Armour 4,439 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Robguima said: With all the caveats out of the way, including the false 9 thing, it was a pretty poor performance against city. He was good against Barca, but not this time. contrary to others here, I don’t really give two fucks about whether he’s thinking about real or doesn’t like contes tactics, his performance was not good enough esp considering his importance and role in the team. Well when you say performance, its mostly off-the ball performance right? Because that's what it was. Until Giroud came on for the final 10 mins making him drop deep in midfield to receive the ball, there was no service for him whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 57 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: Well when you say performance, its mostly off-the ball performance right? Because that's what it was. Until Giroud came on for the final 10 mins making him drop deep in midfield to receive the ball, there was no service for him whatsoever. Yes and no. my point is that it does not matter that much. I feel that Eden can do no wrong here, while it should be the other way around: he is the key player on higher wages and enjoys more of a free role, and folks pit him as a top5 player. It’s just odd that those statements are usually followed by false9, poor tactics, or lack of overall quality of the squad. I fully understand these things can affect his performance, but using as an excuse for his disinterested showing against city does not work in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 11 hours ago, El P. said: Yes, sack Conte for Hazard to be happy, and bring manager that can play like Barcelona with this team. Lol. If he had played as AMF, he would not touch the ball 4 times, yes, he would touch it 7-8 times. People are still not aware how shit our squad is and that Man City has the best squad since Pep's Barcelona and double-UCL winning Real Madrid. They are THAT level, God-ish level. Hazard > any manager. Blue Armour, MrExcalibur100, Amblève. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCM4PR3Z 411 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 8 hours ago, LukakutoStamford said: The problem with Hazard as a false 9 is that he’s getting mostly route 1 balls, which basically minimizes the chance that Chelsea will maintain possession. The rest of the team hasn’t shown the ability to bring the ball up, pass to Hazard at the edge of the 18, and make runs into the box to be played through. It appears that spending has been reigned in but the young potential talent hasn’t been brought into the team as needed. Granted getting De Bruyne and Courtois for less than 14 million pounds in total was the steal of the century. It just doesn’t seem that Chelsea has been able to lure young talent from the 19-22 bracket or at least young contributingbtalent save for Christensen.     14M for a player worth around 250M and a goalkeeper worth around 100M. It's ridiculous indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Robguima said: Yes and no. my point is that it does not matter that much. I feel that Eden can do no wrong here, while it should be the other way around: he is the key player on higher wages and enjoys more of a free role, and folks pit him as a top5 player. It’s just odd that those statements are usually followed by false9, poor tactics, or lack of overall quality of the squad. I fully understand these things can affect his performance, but using as an excuse for his disinterested showing against city does not work in my head. How can an attacking player be anything but disinterested when his team is set up the way they were on Sunday? You could have replaced Hazard with any of the all-time great attacking players and they would have performed no better. Sunday was a shambles and further proves why Hazard has to leave this summer. You cannot be that good and waste your prime years playing that kind of football every time your club comes across decent opposition. Simon1991, MrExcalibur100, LukakutoStamford and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 05/03/2018 at 6:13 AM, manpe said: How did he snub Conte? Did I miss something? No handshake when he came off, didn't even look towards him or acknowledge him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 22 hours ago, Jason said: I get that Hazard is our best player but I'm not sure if there's anything more exasperating than people making the club as if it's 'Eden Hazard FC' rather than 'Chelsea FC'. Yeah, it's probably obvious that he'll leave some time soon but every time when we don't win, people can't wait to say "Hazard doesn't deserve this", "Hazard deserves better", "Hazard should go elsewhere where his quality will be better used" bla bla bla. EVERY. FUCKING. SINGLE. TIME. Aye true, nobody has mentioned in the last 3 big games he's only shown up for 45 minutes. System, defensive approach or whatever, that is shocking for a player of his ability. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jernej93 569 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Aye true, nobody has mentioned in the last 3 big games he's only shown up for 45 minutes. System, defensive approach or whatever, that is shocking for a player of his ability. You have to keep in mind that all attacking players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar etc. don't run that much and don't need to cover so much ground as Hazard in our system... Thor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: No handshake when he came off, didn't even look towards him or acknowledge him. Did Conte even attempt to acknowledge him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 49 minutes ago, Jason said: Did Conte even attempt to acknowledge him? He was too embarrassed to look at Hazard. Belgiannutt, Amblève. and Blue-in-me-Veins 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Jason said: Did Conte even attempt to acknowledge him? Think it went both ways. They were both pretty annoyed at each other by looks of it. Not surprised one bit, Eden seemed to continuously be shouting over to the touch lines and Conte was more often than not shouting at Eden haha. Or the amount of times I heard it through the tv I'd say he was doing it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Think it went both ways. They were both pretty annoyed at each other by looks of it. Not surprised one bit, Eden seemed to continuously be shouting over to the touch lines and Conte was more often than not shouting at Eden haha. Or the amount of times I heard it through the tv I'd say he was doing it a lot. So, it's basically a non-story then? They may have some issues behind closed doors but it's hardly new that manager and player don't acknowledge one another when the latter gets taken off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 17 hours ago, Tomo said: Hazard > any manager. I'd rather a Pep or a Fergie and win countless trophies playing exciting football with a team that is solid all over the park rather than watch 1 man struggle to carry a team to the odd trophy here and there whilst playing dogshit footy. robsblubot and Sideshow Luiz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Lmao   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 hours ago, DDA said: I'd rather a Pep or a Fergie and win countless trophies playing exciting football with a team that is solid all over the park rather than watch 1 man struggle to carry a team to the odd trophy here and there whilst playing dogshit footy. If we can find one like that then ok, but looking in hindsight imagine how brutal it would have been had we backed Jose over Hazard? It would have made KDB's sale look like a masterstroke. When we have players as special as Hazard then i would choose them over any manager outside of by some miracle finding our own Fergie, and i wouldn't have to think twice. Amblève. and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hazard > any manager.Might as well give him Messi status and let him pick future signings & who we'd like as manager. I hear Wilmots is available, so he would be a good choice to replace Conte. 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,701 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 3 hours ago, manpe said: Lmao   And there is actually people blaming Hazard for not playing overly well in the last 3 games. lol... What is he supposed to do exactly? Like someone said. I'd love for him to stay, but that would need to be at a massive change in how the club plays. He is wasted here playing that way we do. I think we're all fans of great football, and seeing Hazard achieve that would be great in its own right. But like I said in an earlier post in here, it really is tragic that a lot of our own fans feel this way about Hazard. Meanwhile you have Klopp making Salah look way better than he is, and Pep making Sterling look like an out and out world beater. Amblève., Styles and Belgiannutt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 He could have done literally anything, which would be more than he did... There is the top5 player folks here talk about, and there hazard who we see vanish in games quite often actually. anyway I’m looking forward for a definition. Either he signs a contract and commits or fuck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukakutoStamford 779 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Robguima said: He could have done literally anything, which would be more than he did... There is the top5 player folks here talk about, and there hazard who we see vanish in games quite often actually. anyway I’m looking forward for a definition. Either he signs a contract and commits or fuck off. Commits to what exactly? A board that rotates managers more than fast food employees? Or a board that screws the manager by giving a colossal pile of shit in the transfer after winning the title?  The management at this club is unstable. It’s only going to get worse.  Why should any player have to play for a  club with a revolving door of managers? The whole thing is disgraceful and shambolic.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, LukakutoStamford said: Commits to what exactly? A board that rotates managers more than fast food employees? Or a board that screws the manager by giving a colossal pile of shit in the transfer after winning the title?  The management at this club is unstable. It’s only going to get worse.  Why should any player have to play for a  club with a revolving door of managers? The whole thing is disgraceful and shambolic.  So... what’s your point then? Switch clubs? Become Real Madrid fans where hazard Will finally fulfill his potential and win games by himself like the other top5 players do? support city because they have more money and better players? Once again hazard is our key player on super high wages... if he needs more incentive than that then he can fuck off. players come and go, but the club stays. Even the scouts and coaches who don’t seem to understand the transfer market will leave one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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