Politics & Stuff

[EBH 283]

I am losing my faith in the human race here!

You shouldn't have any in the first place. It always surprises me when people are of the opinion that humans are somehow superior enough to live without war. We're animals. Animals fight. Other primates certainly do. As do ants, wasps, and other hive mind insects. And that's just off the top of my head, these are animals that specifically fight what we would recognise as 'wars' (in that the entire society piles in and contributes to the war effort, not unlike the total war that was World War I) - not including animals that fight as a herd/community against others of their own kind over territory and resources. The only difference between us and them is that we have a far, far larger range of resources which are precious enough to Babylon that going to war is a necessity; while for animals I imagine they'd only fight over . Also Babylon profits massively every time there's a war, which is another nice incentive.

Talking of the First World War, can I state how utterly disgusting I find the outpourings of right wing vaginal discharge that have come out disguised as 'commemorating' the anniversary. Fuck off. It was your great-grandparents that were to blame for 9 million, largely forced soldiers (either forced into the army by a powerful propaganda campaign and the associated peer and social pressure that placed on young men to enlist, or forced to join up outright via conscription) dying over essentially no good reason. Now you're distorting the truth to serve your own twisted agenda, which is to drive up patriotism and nationalism amongst the sheep that elect you. No mention is ever made of how horribly the soldiers suffered, how poorly equipped and how shockingly led they were - instead all the focus is on their 'brave sacrifice' and 'courageous answer to our country's call in its hour of need'. It's as though the vast governmental incompetence that led to the war in the first place and then made every little aspect of it a billion times worse never existed.

[Spike 12,049]

People are capable of good too.

[kobematabryant 400]

Watch this video, long but very good.

[Stingray 9,441]

Watch this video, long but very good.

Miko Peled has a good book as well.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

You shouldn't have any in the first place. It always surprises me when people are of the opinion that humans are somehow superior enough to live without war. We're animals. Animals fight. Other primates certainly do. As do ants, wasps, and other hive mind insects. And that's just off the top of my head, these are animals that specifically fight what we would recognise as 'wars' (in that the entire society piles in and contributes to the war effort, not unlike the total war that was World War I) - not including animals that fight as a herd/community against others of their own kind over territory and resources. The only difference between us and them is that we have a far, far larger range of resources which are precious enough to Babylon that going to war is a necessity; while for animals I imagine they'd only fight over . Also Babylon profits massively every time there's a war, which is another nice incentive.

Talking of the First World War, can I state how utterly disgusting I find the outpourings of right wing vaginal discharge that have come out disguised as 'commemorating' the anniversary. Fuck off. It was your great-grandparents that were to blame for 9 million, largely forced soldiers (either forced into the army by a powerful propaganda campaign and the associated peer and social pressure that placed on young men to enlist, or forced to join up outright via conscription) dying over essentially no good reason. Now you're distorting the truth to serve your own twisted agenda, which is to drive up patriotism and nationalism amongst the sheep that elect you. No mention is ever made of how horribly the soldiers suffered, how poorly equipped and how shockingly led they were - instead all the focus is on their 'brave sacrifice' and 'courageous answer to our country's call in its hour of need'. It's as though the vast governmental incompetence that led to the war in the first place and then made every little aspect of it a billion times worse never existed.

Disagree with the first part. I do not believe we are animals, we have the ability to rationalise and evaluate way beyond any type of animal.-though I agree sometimes it makes you wonder. That particular anomaly comes down to the human resource of education and how it is rationed to some on this ball spinning in space. people find religion or money and think that is the answer, whereas the reality of the human condition , we know is a lot more complex. Lack of education means people wamt easy answers. Take any conflict domestic or global and it is nearly always down to poverty -be it poverty of education or resources. This suits capitalism it suits the 1-10% who have immense wealth. if you can get people divided over religion, resources, colour of their skin, football team -theyre soooooo much easier to rule over. Capitalism in times of crisis I agree will always go to war.

Which brings me on to your second paragraph -I wholeheartedly agree with.This 'commemoration' is all about reinforcing nationalism, for when the next war or immigration debate comes along. Its dangerous not to downplay the parts and lives played by millions of working class people who fought and died for some misguided colonial empire driven rich cunts though. Theres a saying they keep saying in the UK about WW 2, a quote from Churchill -''Never has so much been owed by so many to so few'' I would argue the opposite is more true ''Never has so much been owed by so few to so many''

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Rumors that the Israeli side has agreed to 4 of the conditions of the Palestinian representatives including lifting the siege on Gaza. That's great news if true. It was expected that the Israelis will have to give a few things. Politically, they have lost a lot in this assault.

She is one of those corrupt, in it for me politicians. Quite happy to shit on the poor and fiddle expenses.
Ok shes resigned over Camerons israeli friendly stance, but that wouldnt have been her decision, believe me. She would have been under immense pressure from other muslims, her family etc.

First time I've heard of her to be honest, but her resignation AFTER a ceasefire has been reached hardly changes anything. Would have been more helpful when the bombs were raining down on the civilians.

You shouldn't have any in the first place. It always surprises me when people are of the opinion that humans are somehow superior enough to live without war. We're animals. Animals fight. Other primates certainly do. As do ants, wasps, and other hive mind insects. And that's just off the top of my head, these are animals that specifically fight what we would recognise as 'wars' (in that the entire society piles in and contributes to the war effort, not unlike the total war that was World War I) - not including animals that fight as a herd/community against others of their own kind over territory and resources. The only difference between us and them is that we have a far, far larger range of resources which are precious enough to Babylon that going to war is a necessity; while for animals I imagine they'd only fight over . Also Babylon profits massively every time there's a war, which is another nice incentive.

Talking of the First World War, can I state how utterly disgusting I find the outpourings of right wing vaginal discharge that have come out disguised as 'commemorating' the anniversary. Fuck off. It was your great-grandparents that were to blame for 9 million, largely forced soldiers (either forced into the army by a powerful propaganda campaign and the associated peer and social pressure that placed on young men to enlist, or forced to join up outright via conscription) dying over essentially no good reason. Now you're distorting the truth to serve your own twisted agenda, which is to drive up patriotism and nationalism amongst the sheep that elect you. No mention is ever made of how horribly the soldiers suffered, how poorly equipped and how shockingly led they were - instead all the focus is on their 'brave sacrifice' and 'courageous answer to our country's call in its hour of need'. It's as though the vast governmental incompetence that led to the war in the first place and then made every little aspect of it a billion times worse never existed.

Of course we can't live without war, that's not what I meant. But we have managed to develop certain codes and norms of ethics to govern our actions. That is a huge difference we have over other animals. And that is what I meant by losing my faith in humanity when I saw those norms being destroyed.

[Fulham Broadway 17,306]

First time I've heard of her to be honest, but her resignation AFTER a ceasefire has been reached hardly changes anything. Would have been more helpful when the bombs were raining down on the civilians.

She has been talking to insiders about resigning for weeks now, not over Gaza though, all the while she has been in politics building up lucrative outside business interests. Its just a convenient time to go and save islamic face

[Clevemayer 764]

everytime I see this picture my heart dies a bit with every teardrop

Warning NSFW

#Freedom4Ezdi #Freedom4Shinjar #Freedom4Kurdistan #Peacock4Kurdistan

Edited August 5, 2014 by Spike Spiegel
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No mention is ever made of how horribly the soldiers suffered, how poorly equipped and how shockingly led they were - instead all the focus is on their 'brave sacrifice' and 'courageous answer to our country's call in its hour of need'. It's as though the vast governmental incompetence that led to the war in the first place and then made every little aspect of it a billion times worse never existed.

That's certainly not the case in the UK.

[Melanicus 5,208]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2IeC-aeQQ8

What a load of fucking melodramatic bullshit.

[oldportblue 547]

My people, my religion is under threat and is murdured in Iraq by ISIS and nobody cares. Women are abducted with theyre family and they slaughter the men before they force women to merry them. They do masskillings and nearlo 100 000 ppl (definitly more then 50 000) hav flewn into the hills of Shinjar which is a holy place to my religion. And nobody seem to care, I don't understand it.

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of course no one cares, you can't blame the jews on that one! nevermind the fact people are dying elsewhere at a rate of 100X or in certain cases 1000X more than palestinians... if you take the proportion of deaths in iraq and how much it's talked about and then compare to that of gaza and how much it's talked about, it's a joke really... yet all these people in this thread obsessed with demonizing israel don't see the hypocrisy

[Clevemayer 764]

of course no one cares, you can't blame the jews on that one! nevermind the fact people are dying elsewhere at a rate of 100X or in certain cases 1000X more than palestinians... if you take the proportion of deaths in iraq and how much it's talked about and then compare to that of gaza and how much it's talked about, it's a joke really... yet all these people in this thread obsessed with demonizing israel don't see the hypocrisy

Mate I would NEVER blame the jews, but mass execution of more then 500 Men and CHILD in 48 hr is a joke and just right now the western media starts of writing, they can all fuck off and the iraki kurds can fuck off too (at least the government not the ppl, they stand with us)

I must say I'm with israel that hamas should be fought, but what they do isn't right they shouldn't bomb childrin, send your mossad you're strong enough to kill all without one little child dying mate. Its shocking how such a small group like isis gets so much attention, there are so many ppl, if everybody takes one gun, they're nothing.

All ppl doing such crewl thing are no humans to me. Israel or Yezid, or Muslima... you can't do things right with doing things wrong... I'm kurd my jewish frineds are like us, and we yezidi kurds differ from many of the muslim kurds, we stand our ground we fight till death with honour and pride, no western will ever understand us, I'm fully integrated, tollerant, every human being liking chelsea FC supporting HUMAN yezidi Kurd but i differ from western ppl... its our mentality and how we are raisd.

Men drive they're childrens away and come back to fight WITHOUT guns against ISIS, thats what yezidis are about. They are so proud they even kill theyr OWN children they're own hands when the isis catch them, so they cant be slaughtered and killed... think about how much bravery to kill your child only so it isn't killed by this animals.

This world is sickening me right now and the western World too, israelis and yezidis should stick together and fight for brave and hounour...

Freedom to palastina I will say I'm with them and I have NOTHING against them and AGAIN I hope this killing of palestinians will end and not EVERYTHING you say against israil is against all jews, the politics and the religion must been kept apart mate...

[Clevemayer 764]

sorry if I'm talkint many things but my adrenaline is high up, still 50k and more ppl in the sinjar hills without food:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNoP-tQ5mCw&list=UUSLfzD-bhd87qM0ZPuX_ipg

for all of you to understand how proud we Ezdis are:

Êzîdîsche Frau auf den Bergen Shingals: "Ich stürze mich lieber von den Klippen, als von den IS-Terroristen vergewaltigt zu werden."

(Ezidi woman from the mountains of Sinjar : "I will rater jump from the cliffs, then let my self getting raped by IS-Terrorists"...

[Fernando 6,585]

One question to my Islamic friends.

Why is there so much radical Islamic in this day and age?

Countries like Iran that are heavily control by radical Islamic in which give no freedom but to follow their religion.

I actually been hearing reports that Christians in countries like Iran are persecuted and such.

Is this true?

[Stingray 9,441]

everytime I see this picture my heart dies a bit with every teardrop

Warning NSFW

#Freedom4Ezdi #Freedom4Shinjar #Freedom4Kurdistan #Peacock4Kurdistan

This sort of thing should never be....... Period. Nowhere.