FabHazard 655 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 End of an era for simeone.....Embarrassing performance by Atletico.....the players are not running for him anymore.....We would have beaten this atletico side.. Cannot believe they reached semifinals..They look so poor kellzfresh and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 2 hours ago, lucio said: really hoping atletico can progress, final between them and monaco/juventus would be massive Nope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 2, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted May 2, 2017 23 minutes ago, FabHazard said: End of an era for simeone.....Embarrassing performance by Atletico.....the players are not running for him anymore.....We would have beaten this atletico side.. Cannot believe they reached semifinals..They look so poor Typical bs overreaction after a loss. Why everyone blames "the players not playing for the manager" after every single football failure? I guess its easier to label it like that instead of trying to understand the actual tactics and football reasons to why something isnt working... communicate, kmk108, manpe and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, Rmpr said: Typical bs overreaction after a loss. Why everyone blames "the players not playing for the manager" after every single football failure? I guess its easier to label it like that instead of trying to understand the actual tactics and football reasons to why something isnt working... The tactics are not working because few players are not playing to the required intensity.. Anyway I doubt simeone stays after this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azpinator 2,325 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Mourinho and Simeone are pretty much two sides of the same coin. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Simeone brought on his 2 worst players as a double-sub. It was depressing. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,100 Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Simeone has taken Atleti as far as he can. Guess he'll be off to Italy next. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmk108 1,186 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 I didn't get to watch the match. I don't think Monaco would have a chance against Real, especially if Ronaldo is playing like this. I don't know if Juventus would either but it's at least a better chance. Johnnyeye and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 6 hours ago, kmk108 said: I didn't get to watch the match. I don't think Monaco would have a chance against Real, especially if Ronaldo is playing like this. I don't know if Juventus would either but it's at least a better chance. I like Monaco, but I doubt they have what it takes to stop Real Madrid. They are a young and inexperienced, but zealous team with no real ability to defend, while Real are playing some extraterrestrial stuff at times. Juventus would be a better match to them in the final, of that I am pretty sure. And in order to stop Real from winning it again, I'd rather Juventus made it through and went all the way. Johnnyeye and kmk108 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,871 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Turned off as soon as the Portuguese fairy scored. Hope Monaco stick it up Juve tonight but it's going to be tough. lucio and Johnnyeye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 13 hours ago, FabHazard said: The tactics are not working because few players are not playing to the required intensity.. Anyway I doubt simeone stays after this season Nope, tactics didnt work because the game plan was piss poor. This notion that a team can only lose because the players arent giving their all is absolutely stupid. If you google the amount of km ran or tackle attempts from Atleti, you will see it being the same as their previous wins. The difference is their midfield was dominated by Modric - Casemiro - Kroos. It has nothing to do with intensity! Of course there are times where the problem is lack of desire or dissatisfaction (like us with Jose), but more often than not the problem revolves around footballing reasons rather than "the players arent giving 100%"... P.S: this is not a dig at you man, its just an overall hatred because this excuse gets thrown in a lot and it makes me mad lol kmk108 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 yeah, those atletico players couldnt be arsed with a champions league final Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Rmpr said: Nope, tactics didnt work because the game plan was piss poor. This notion that a team can only lose because the players arent giving their all is absolutely stupid. If you google the amount of km ran or tackle attempts from Atleti, you will see it being the same as their previous wins. The difference is their midfield was dominated by Modric - Casemiro - Kroos. It has nothing to do with intensity! Of course there are times where the problem is lack of desire or dissatisfaction (like us with Jose), but more often than not the problem revolves around footballing reasons rather than "the players arent giving 100%"... P.S: this is not a dig at you man, its just an overall hatred because this excuse gets thrown in a lot and it makes me mad lol There are problems like juanfran not being available and koke playing in wide position....This atletico team is clearly inferior to its previous sides which were playing same tactics and those teams defeated Real madrid..so i doubt tactics are the problem...Yesterday while watching the match some players were clearly not up to the intensity of previous atletico sides I agree that their midfield was dominated by real Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Bakayoko messed up big time there. So painful. Dani Alves is a great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,381 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, DYC. said: Bakayoko messed up big time there. So painful. Dani Alves is a great. I've now seen Bakayoko play three times this season in the CL and he's been average or poor in each one. Not really sure he's the Matic replacement we need at all. I was excited about the thought a couple of months ago but not so much now. We need a polished midfield general who's super comfortable on the ball and great passing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Just now, Pizy said: I've now seen Bakayoko play three times this season in the CL and he's been average or poor in each one. Not really sure he's the Matic replacement we need at all. I was excited about the thought a couple of months ago but not so much now. We need a polished midfield general who's super comfortable on the ball and great passing it. Sounds great, yeah. Hard to find. Even harder to sign. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,381 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, DYC. said: Sounds great, yeah. Hard to find. Even harder to sign. True. We have enough strength, steel, and industry in our midfield with Kante and Matic. We need essentially a prime Fabregas or Kroos type this summer who can break down teams and control the tempo. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 23 hours ago, FabHazard said: End of an era for simeone.....Embarrassing performance by Atletico.....the players are not running for him anymore.....We would have beaten this atletico side.. Cannot believe they reached semifinals..They look so poor Real Madrid are a great side though, they are likely to repeat as CL winner. And that would be the first time that has every happened. The quality of the opponent should not be forgotten. Atletico are a good side, not the best under Simeone but i seriously doubt we would beat this team. Alti are not the same pressing team they were in the past, they have actually changed a bit they are much more attacking then previously. The emphasis on pressing is not the same, and that might be due to personals and the fact it is just extremely hard to play the way they have done years after years. Simeone Alti at their prime were the best pressing team i have ever seen. Still a great achievement for them. But i wonder if it is time for him to go elsewhere because i can't seem them competing with Barca and Real any time soon. Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,593 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 just as i expected, Monaco couldnt break this Juventus side, reaching the semis was a big bonus, its as far as they will get, of course there is still the 2nd leg, but Juventus are on a mission, they have one foot in the final, deserved winners today, Monaco has a bright future ahead of them, they have to focus on the league now, i really hope Juventus wins the cup, i cant stand Real Madrid and their arrogance. Cheers Beigl, kmk108 and communicate 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Pizy said: I've now seen Bakayoko play three times this season in the CL and he's been average or poor in each one. Not really sure he's the Matic replacement we need at all. I was excited about the thought a couple of months ago but not so much now. We need a polished midfield general who's super comfortable on the ball and great passing it. If we get Kroos type of player, you do know what will happen tho? Kante will no longer be our b2b, but our holding DM, which limits his abilities. Also, we will be weaker in defense, because we already lack steel even with Matic. Sure idealy, with Kroos type of player and better wingbacks, we would eventualy try to dominate more and we wouldnt need as many bodies in defence, but hell our team will never dominate, its just not in our DNA. I like idea about ballplaying CM, but in that case we would need to switch to 3:5:2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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