Kojo 4,676 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 Agree to disagree. This season has shown how important Ramires can be.For me it's shown how average of a footballer he is. But that's my opinion, and NO YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME SON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 NO YOU WILL AGREE WITH ME SON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 We spent over 20 million for both Ess and Ramires and you want to sell 3 of them for 30? Besides, you want to sell 2 of our arguably best players? What a joke.No way should Ramires be sold, that is an outstandingly stupid sentiment considering his importance to the team.Essien will have depreciated ridiculously in his value since 2005. You're looking at £12 million as a realistic fee for him. Same for Mikel. Sell those two and you can afford Tiote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuf 1,448 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 No way should Ramires be sold, that is an outstandingly stupid sentiment considering his importance to the team.Essien will have depreciated ridiculously in his value since 2005. You're looking at £12 million as a realistic fee for him. Same for Mikel. Sell those two and you can afford Tiote.When I said 2 of our best players I mean Rami and Mikel. Why doesn't anybody recognize Mikel's importance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 When I said 2 of our best players I mean Rami and Mikel. Why doesn't anybody recognize Mikel's importance..I agree with you,Mikel has been the most underrated player in Chelsea history.He's been here for ages and still is young.Granted he wasn't great under AVB but the change of manager has reignited his confidence and as a result his performances have improved significantly.Chelsea will make a HUGE mistake if they decide to sell him.If they sell him because of his erratic performances then Torres should be sold too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 5, 2012 Author Share Posted May 5, 2012 No way should Ramires be sold, that is an outstandingly stupid sentiment considering his importance to the team.Essien will have depreciated ridiculously in his value since 2005. You're looking at £12 million as a realistic fee for him. Same for Mikel. Sell those two and you can afford Tiote.No way should Ramires be sold, that is an outstandingly stupid sentiment considering his importance to the team.Essien will have depreciated ridiculously in his value since 2005. You're looking at £12 million as a realistic fee for him. Same for Mikel. Sell those two and you can afford Tiote.BlueLion it's Business!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainjt26 106 Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 John Obi-Mikel is the most under-rated player in this team , he does his job doesnt complain and does what he does well !The likes of Essien i still think he can perform at a high level but its whether he is bothered about not starting ......to which i think he isnt ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share Posted May 6, 2012 Ramires was quality last night, but he was still poor in aspects for me, and aspects what is REALLY needed in this team. If it wern't for these financial times i would definitely keep him, but people must understand Business is having to come first over everything. You can fall in love with players, you can idolise them, but business has to come first in order to survive and become the best.We got ourselves in this mess in the first place, we must pay the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ramires was quality last night, but he was still poor in aspects for me, and aspects what is REALLY needed in this team. If it wern't for these financial times i would definitely keep him, but people must understand Business is having to come first over everything. You can fall in love with players, you can idolise them, but business has to come first in order to survive and become the best.We got ourselves in this mess in the first place, we must pay the price.........What? First off all, will you just admit that Ramires is a vital part of this team now? Everyone can see it except you. He will not be sold, as simple as that. Poor in some aspects? Yes, maybe technically he is lacking but that should be left to other players. He was bought to bring us the Energy, Pace, Lung bursting box-to-box runs and the ability to defensive shut down just about anyone. Which other midfielder of ours can do that? Secondly, financial times? Survive? I Assume you're talking about FFP. In that case, we have a BILLIONAIRE manager. We're not in a dire financial state that would warrant us selling one of out best players. The club will know how to deal with FFP better than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 ........What? First off all, will you just admit that Ramires is a vital part of this team now? Everyone can see it except you. He will not be sold, as simple as that. Poor in some aspects? Yes, maybe technically he is lacking but that should be left to other players. He was bought to bring us the Energy, Pace, Lung bursting box-to-box runs and the ability to defensive shut down just about anyone. Which other midfielder of ours can do that? Secondly, financial times? Survive? I Assume you're talking about FFP. In that case, we have a BILLIONAIRE manager. We're not in a dire financial state that would warrant us selling one of out best players. The club will know how to deal with FFP better than us.You don't understand it, we need to balance off our transactions, and we need to do that with selling, and selling Ramires is a good idea.What other players can do it?, okay i want to play withMata-???TioteI think a player with a great technical abillity who sits deep will be perfect, give Mata the freedom and let him be the magic man, the deep lying man works from behind. Tiote breaks up play, where as Ramires yeah sure he can run about all over the pitch, but we need someone who can pass a feckin ball.THIS IS BIZNIZ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ramires was quality last night, but he was still poor in aspects for me, and aspects what is REALLY needed in this team. If it wern't for these financial times i would definitely keep him, but people must understand Business is having to come first over everything. You can fall in love with players, you can idolise them, but business has to come first in order to survive and become the best.We got ourselves in this mess in the first place, we must pay the price.We don't need to sell any of our key players. However, we should look at getting rid of excess wages at the end of this season. By excess wages I mean Malouda, Bosingwa, Hilario, Essien for the right fee, Kalou for the right fee. Selling Ramires, what a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 We don't need to sell any of our key players. However, we should look at getting rid of excess wages at the end of this season. By excess wages I mean Malouda, Bosingwa, Hilario, Essien for the right fee, Kalou for the right fee. Selling Ramires, what a joke.Don't sell Hilario, he's a backup it's pointless selling him, he's not as bad as everyone says just cannot play big games, but Turnbull can so it's all good.Yeah get rid of them, but we need to get rid of key players in order to get key ones in, BUSINESS SON, ITS MO FUCKIN BUSINESS AIGHT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English Freak 456 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 You don't understand it, we need to balance off our transactions, and we need to do that with selling, and selling Ramires is a good idea.What other players can do it?, okay i want to play withMata-???TioteI think a player with a great technical abillity who sits deep will be perfect, give Mata the freedom and let him be the magic man, the deep lying man works from behind. Tiote breaks up play, where as Ramires yeah sure he can run about all over the pitch, but we need someone who can pass a feckin ball.THIS IS BIZNIZ!Well Tiote is supposed to break up play, he is a DM...while Ramires is a high energy midfielder who can play well on either flank.I don't see the fuss about Tiote. If we want a CM/DM who is young, has leadership ability, has alot of potential...and we want to splash a bit of cash, we should be looking at M'Vila. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Well Tiote is supposed to break up play, he is a DM...while Ramires is a high energy midfielder who can play well on either flank.I don't see the fuss about Tiote. If we want a CM/DM who is young, has leadership ability, has alot of potential...and we want to splash a bit of cash, we should be looking at M'Vila.M'Vila wants to go to Le Arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamikazeBlue 337 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I will shut down your business if you dare talk abt selling ramires again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Tiote is quality and underrated, he battered City all game. I think he's much better than M'Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 I will shut down your business if you dare talk abt selling ramires again....GET THE HELL OUT OF MY THREAD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Tiote is quality and underrated, he battered City all game. I think he's much better than M'Villa.Both are good, but Tiote looks like he's the new Essien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 Both are good, but Tiote looks like he's the new Essien Look dude i would reply but i'm so pissed at Kamikaze Blue, i think i'm gonna have to take this further.ARE THERE ANY STAFF ONLINE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Yeah get rid of them, but we need to get rid of key players in order to get key ones in, BUSINESS SON, ITS MO FUCKIN BUSINESS AIGHTget rid of "key players" to get "key players" in? Yeah, that makes sense. Clearly you know little about business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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