Frank Lampard

[DDA 9,934]

Cause you couldn't find porn? And, this is the next best thing?

Couldn't find porn??? You would have to be pretty retarded to not find porn on the internet, even google images can search hard enough material for a shuffle.

[Spike 12,049]

Couldn't find porn??? You would have to be pretty retarded to not find porn on the internet, even google images can search hard enough material for a shuffle.

Even Wikipedia if necessary...

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Couldn't find porn??? You would have to be pretty retarded to not find porn on the internet, even google images can search hard enough material for a shuffle.

lol I suggest you look for some then and rub one out, why so agitated? lol

[DDA 9,934]

Even Wikipedia if necessary...

I never had you down as a Wikipeado!

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

It's not even about his age, or giving youth a chance over him. I never said that, you are trying to project an agenda onto me which I didn't bring up. And, we don't even have any youth or any player in the squad better for the pivot at the moment but that doesn't mean we don't need one. I didn't bring up once that I want Lamps gone to give others a chance, there is no one, but there has to be next season or even this January. Our midfield is horrible.

Yeah, he played good today, but I don't think he's good enough to be starting material for Chelsea anymore. Today might be hard to get this across considering he put in a BEAST of a performance but I'm sorry, I don't think he's been Chelsea quality for two years now. And, don't bother bringing up others on the squad who aren't Chelsea quality, I know very well there are several not Chelsea quality and I have the same feelings for them. But for the money we'd be paying him, we can get several better players for the pivot. I'm not saying they'll be Lampard replacement because I don't think we'll ever see a CM like Lampard again, but we can def find better footballers for Chelsea than current Lamps for the money we'll be paying him.

And, I am confident that high wages are the reason he's not being extended because that's the only thing that makes sense. You can't honestly think that the board will not offer Lamps an extension if he was willing to accept lower wages. And the reason I bring up a bit-part player again is not because of age, but simply because that's what his quality warrants for a team like Chelsea. Midfield has been our weakness for some time. Even if you pay super high wages to Lampard the simple fact is that we are still weak there and have to still buy a first choice double pivot player. Like it or not, but if Lamps is still first choice next season in the pivot, that's not a good enough midfield. So if you expect Chelsea to improve like Chelsea should, we'll need a top-class midfielder and that automatically relegates Lamps to a squad role. And you don't pay 150K to a squad player, no matter who it is. That's stupidity.

Yes I can. I am positive that the decision not to renew Lampard's contract has nothing to do with money or skill. It's about simply wanting to move on. That's not the decision I would make, but I am not a Russian billionaire who owns Chelsea. (just checked my bank balance to make sure. No, definitely not a billionaire.). And as for Lampard's decline, yes it's obvious he's not that player he was a few years ago, but he is still one of Chelsea's better players. Last season, despite playing much of the year in the pivot, Lampard created a scoring chance every 41 minutes. Fellaini who played the same positions as Frank (central midfield and in the pivot) created a chance once every 114 minutes. Ramires, once every 93 minutes. He still scored more goals than any other midfielder, even from open play. I think Opta Stats ranked him as the 21st best player in the Premier League last season. In his last 4 starts for us, he's been a legitimate MOTM contender in three of them. For the last few years now many people want to see Lampard go (mostly because of "shiny new toy syndrome" which is a fetishization of the new and of theoretical potential, permeates fandom) and have exaggerated his decline (and ignore his quality) but he still keeps on producing.

You look at the game today and Chelsea had about 3 or 4 very good scoring chance and 4 goals and Lampard was key to all of them except the Hazard goal. He had two fantastic over the top passes to put players in on goal. One to set up Ba's chance and a sumptuous one to Mata that led to the penalty. He got himself into great positions for the two scoring chances. He was 7 for 9 in long balls and did his work defensively as well-only Ramires had more tackles than Lampard. He is clearly good enough for Chelsea and would very likely still be good enough to play a role on the team for a couple of years. I think it's silly that we're going to let him go, but I don't make the decisions and he can't stay around forever. I started supporting Chelsea before Lampard and I will support them after.

[DDA 9,934]

lol I suggest you look for some then and rub one out, why so agitated? lol

I just can't sleep... wait... I thought we were in the pub thread.. My bad!

[Bir_CFC 3,455]

Yes I can. I am positive that the decision not to renew Lampard's contract has nothing to do with money or skill. It's about simply wanting to move on. That's not the decision I would make, but I am not a Russian billionaire who owns Chelsea. (just checked my bank balance to make sure. No, definitely not a billionaire.). And as for Lampard's decline, yes it's obvious he's not that player he was a few years ago, but he is still one of Chelsea's better players. Last season, despite playing much of the year in the pivot, Lampard created a scoring chance every 41 minutes. Fellaini who played the same positions as Frank (central midfield and in the pivot) created a chance once every 114 minutes. Ramires, once every 93 minutes. He still scored more goals than any other midfielder, even from open play. I think Opta Stats ranked him as the 21st best player in the Premier League last season. In his last 4 starts for us, he's been a legitimate MOTM contender in three of them. For the last few years now many people want to see Lampard go (mostly because of "shiny new toy syndrome" which is a fetishization of the new and of theoretical potential, permeates fandom) and have exaggerated his decline (and ignore his quality) but he still keeps on producing.

You look at the game today and Chelsea had about 3 or 4 very good scoring chance and 4 goals and Lampard was key to all of them except the Hazard goal. He had two fantastic over the top passes to put players in on goal. One to set up Ba's chance and a sumptuous one to Mata that led to the penalty. He got himself into great positions for the two scoring chances. He was 7 for 9 in long balls and did his work defensively as well-only Ramires had more tackles than Lampard. He is clearly good enough for Chelsea and would very likely still be good enough to play a role on the team for a couple of years. I think it's silly that we're going to let him go, but I don't make the decisions and he can't stay around forever. I started supporting Chelsea before Lampard and I will support them after.

I agree with you completely. I think he def has more than enough in him to play a role for Chelsea. But I have to think it's cause of wages, no way our board would be that stupid to say no to Frank if he agreed to lower wages and a squad role. It would make no sense at all. I am sure Frank will re-assess his situation at the end of the year and if a team is willing to pay same wages as he's getting right now then he'll prolly go there otherwise I'm sure Chelsea has a deal on the table for him at lower wages for next year.

[Kieran. 6,317]

He has to get the record before the season ends, it will be his own personal "high note" to leave on. (Drogba last year)

[super_frank8 186]

Whatever you're going to say isn't going to change my opinion and I'm not trying to change yours. It's an opinion, do you know what that means? I love Lampard, I love him to death. I was crying cause of the goals he missed today because I can't wait to rub one out when he becomes our top scorer. But I'm also a realist and the simple fact to me is that financially it doesn't make sense to offer him a contract at his current wages. If anything a Chelsea fan should know what finances can really do for you. If it was upto me Drogba would still be here. And saying I'm not a Chelsea fan because I don't agree with you is down-right pathetic. That's how you take a high ground in an argument? lol

I will guarantee you that Lamps won't be going to United or any of the teams you listed because I am 100% confident (have to be) that he's only holding out for wages, otherwise the board would have already signed him up if he was happy taking lower wages and a squad role next season.

I don't think Lamps is good enough to be Chelsea first team next season. I'd love him to take a squad role but he'll have to take a squad player wages. Simple.

Well judging from everything mentioned in your last post, I hate to imagine the way you speak about the players that you don't love to death...

Anyway, I don't believe I actually mentioned anything about you not being a Chelsea fan? I've merely insinuated that you're not particularly knowledgable in purely footballing terms - which could be wrong if you really just have a personal vendetta against Frank since that would make far more sense some of these points that you are attempting to validate.

& you're going to GUARANTEE me with 100% CONFIDENCE that this whole fiasco is just about wages? Are you that delusional mate? I'm pretty sure Lamps would be more than happy to take a slight pay cut when push comes to shove - but the fact of the matter is that based on the player that he is, he really shouldn't have to in any case. & what makes you think he won't go to United or Juve when they would be more than willing to pay him similar wages to what he's getting since Fergie (along with I would imagine the majority of managers in Europe) has the brains to recognise how daft the club is being & will not even have to spend a penny on a transfer fee?

But yer so your opinion is in fact that he is just not good enough & is nothing more than a squad player? I mean don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion & all, but I am just unable to fathom how anyone who actually claims to love him can actually truly believe that as the genuine truth - not when every rival & neutral supporter is both equally perplexed & enticed by the prospect of one of the best midfielders around being available for absolutely nothing in the summer. I would have to imagine such a unique situation suggests that it's more than just my opinion talking...

I mean saying that Lamps is a 'squad player' & deserves 'squad player wages' - that has to be among the most outlandish & outrageous statements I have ever heard. So forgive me if I have come to a rather hasty conclusion in similar fashion, but from that alone I can only conclude that you are not a particularly great judge of footballing ability.

Releasing a world class player like Frank on a free transfer? Isn't it enough that we're already the laughing stock of Europe at the moment for reasons irrelevant to this contract saga?

He is a first team player & once he is no longer able to earn his place on the teamsheet, then that is when we should consider moving on - not when he clearly still possesses the ability & fitness to control games & score goals against top teams in a way that few others in the game can.

[super_frank8 186]

In his last 4 starts for us, he's been a legitimate MOTM contender in three of them. For the last few years now many people want to see Lampard go (mostly because of "shiny new toy syndrome" which is a fetishization of the new and of theoretical potential, permeates fandom) and have exaggerated his decline (and ignore his quality) but he still keeps on producing.

This +10000000000000. Brilliant way to describe some of the clouded judgement & delusional beliefs held by many in this thread. Rest of the post was great too!

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

I think that he started the game only because of Cahill's absence.Also on that, congratulations to Gary on becoming a father.

[super_frank8 186]

I think that he started the game only because of Cahill's absence.Also on that, congratulations to Gary on becoming a father.

Yer it's great that Cahill got to become a parent today as well as having the peace of mind that his team won despite his last minute withdrawal. But it will be interesting to see whether he's going to start too many of the games in coming weeks with JT seemingly on the brink of being back to fitness...

But yer I reckon it was Ramires who came in for David Luiz's place in the midfield to be honest, hence why Benitez must have felt the need to play Betrand instead of Oscar/Marin since he was concerned about the vulnerability of our backline & most of all Luiz on the counter attack. Unless he really does just genuinely hate Oscar that much for whatever unknown reason...

Because if there is one somewhat redeeming & mildly admirable quality in our fat cunt of a manager - it's that he clearly still holds a considerable degree of admiration for a former opposition player who tormented his Liverpool side season after season & evidently wants to start Frank against the better teams. 6 points off Everton & Stoke away is no small feat in the middle of January when we have been sturggling for consistency - & it is impossible to deny that his performances in those two games made the difference in all reality.

If Rafa does somehow end up staying on in a more permanent role, that might just be the one potential perk that would somehow get his fat arse out of my crosshairs for a moment - because if it was up to him alone, he would without a shadow of a doubt play Lamps til his legs won't carry him any further - a point which is quite obviously closer to 2 years down the line as opposed to 6 months if his current fitness & stamina is anything to go by.

& if I'm to be honest, I highly doubt his potential successors in Pep or Mourinho or otherwise would let Frank go either if it came down to their decision & nothing else.

When world class players & managers are responding to the press with as much bemusement as many of our own fans, that's when Frank Lampard's indisputable quality would appear to seem far closer to being a universal fact throughout the footballing world, rather than a unique isolated opinion.

[Tomo 21,751]

Chelsea make a late run into the title race (been done before) and we find ourself's 2 points behind United on the last day.

United losing 3-0 to Lukaku inspired West Brom.

Chelsea drawing 1-1 with Everton.

Last minute penalty awarded to the Blues, Frank Lampard (level with Bobby Tambling on 202 goals for Chelsea) steps up.

Can't happen, can it?

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Yer it's great that Cahill got to become a parent today as well as having the peace of mind that his team won despite his last minute withdrawal. But it will be interesting to see whether he's going to start too many of the games in coming weeks with JT seemingly on the brink of being back to fitness...

But yer I reckon it was Ramires who came in for David Luiz's place in the midfield to be honest, hence why he felt the need to play Betrand instead of Oscar since he was concerned about the vulnerability of our backline & covering for the DMs & most of all Luiz on the counter attack. Unless he really does just genuinely hate Oscar that much...

Because if there is one somewhat redeeming & mildly admirable quality in our fat cunt of a manager - it's that he clearly still holds a considerable degree of admiration for a former opposition player who tormented his Liverpool teams season after season & evidently wants to start Frank against the better teams. 6 points off Everton & Stoke away is no small feat in the middle of January - & it is impossible to deny that his performances in those two games made the difference in all reality.

If Rafa does somehow end up staying on in a more permanent role, that might just be the one potential perk that would somehow get his fat arse out of my crosshairs for a moment - because if it was up to him alone, he would without a shadow of a doubt play Lamps til his legs won't carry him any further - a point which is quite obviously closer to 2 years down the line as opposed to 6 months if his current fitness & stamina is anything to go by.

& if I'm to be honest, I highly doubt his potential successors in Pep or Mourinho or otherwise would let Frank go either if it came down to their decision & nothing else.

When world class players & managers are responding to the press with as much bemusement as many of our own fans, that's when Frank Lampard's indisputable quality would appear to seem far closer to being a universal fact throughout the footballing world, rather than a unique isolated opinion.

I am glad that Frank did start yesterday and played 90 minutes.Hope he continues to feature for us more often because his performance yesterday and in the earlier games this season showed that he has a lot to offer.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

This is Stamford Bridge in 1998, three years before Frank Lampard signed.

Just trying to show some people that the club did exist before he came along, and it will exist after he's gone. We'll win titles after he's gone and will sign amazing new players and we'll even probably move from this stadium one day. But Lamps will go down as one of our greats and we'll tell stories of his exploits like our dads told us stories of Chopper Harris and Peter Osgood and Peter Bonetti.

But as time passes, things change. It's painful sometimes, but it's necessary for us to move on. The team that we were and what we are going to be are two different things and that means personnel will change. But the club will stay the same. The amount of tedious shit being written about us falling apart is absurd.

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