Popular Post! milka 3,393 Posted October 27, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted October 27, 2019 Atomiswave, Johnnyeye, Bosnian Blue and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Fernando said: The way we are playing reminds me of the style that AVB wanted to implement back then.... AVB could never implement a fluid attacking team with lots of chances created. The only thing similar is the defending... Johnnyeye and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/10/27/christian-pulisic-staking-claim-fill-void-left-eden-hazard-chelsea/ “People talk about transition and obviously there is a transition when you lose a player as impactful as Eden,” said Lampard. “He scored or created nearly 50 per cent of our goals last year so you have to accept that and look where else in our team we can come up with that sort of end product and we do have the players to do it. “We have attacking players that want to score goals, a team that want to move the ball quickly, we want to get the ball into wide areas. “Sometimes we won’t be able to play through teams. At the minute we are scoring goals so we have to continue in that vein. Everyone wants an Eden Hazard in the team, don’t get me wrong, but we haven’t got one now. “But we have got good players and it was important that we try to be an attacking force. “The Chelsea fans who have travelled up here to Burnley want to see a team who are trying to play attractive football and that is the way I want us to play. “Of course we have to be able to defend as well but I want us to defend up the pitch. “If we can, we want to move the ball really quickly with a view to creating chances and the players are doing that. We work hard on it in training.” ... “You come in cold, you have to evaluate and you work hard for messages to get across and we had a really tough start with the opposition, a few tough rides with results,” he said. “But I did believe in the group and I do believe in them daily and I am just really pleased where we have got to. We have to be aware that we can improve. We have to be aware of getting overconfident in this moment. We don’t want to start putting crazy expectations on ourselves from within… let everyone else talk. “But from within, we have to know it is game by game and how we can get better day by day. At the minute we have that feeling and it is my job to keep that.” Johnnyeye, manpe and Bosnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Frank Lampard's Chelsea are the real deal - this honeymoon period should not fade like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/10/29/frank-lampards-chelsea-real-deal-honeymoon-period-should-not/ There are a few similarities between the current situation at Chelsea and that which Ole Gunnar Solskjaer produced in his early days as Manchester United manager. Chelsea have done as United did in appointing one of their former players as manager, with Frank Lampard brought in over the summer, and doing so has conjured a feel-good atmosphere at Stamford Bridge to match that enjoyed at Old Trafford shortly after Solskjaer's arrival at the end of 2018. That feeling has ensured a degree of patience with the new projects in place: the managers are both liked and so started in their roles without needing to gain the respect of the fans. They have had no need to prove themselves, having already done so as players. There has been a focus on youth and energy from both Solskjaer and Lampard, and plenty of playing time for academy products, all of which buys yet more time from fans, the thinking being: if things aren't quite alright at this time, there's a chance they might eventually improve as the players get more experience. The potential for improvement breeds optimism. And so, both Lampard and Solskjaer are in a position where they would be afforded time to turn things around if they turn sour. As it happens, however, Chelsea are doing quite well. After Saturday's thumping, Christian Pulisic-inspired victory at Burnley, Chelsea have won their last seven games. They have won their last six on the road, and they have won their last four away league games while scoring at least three goals in each match for the first time in the club's history. There are similarities in form with the early part of Solskjaer's tenure at United. Solskjaer's effect at Old Trafford was immediate and stark. The players thrived in an atmosphere where they were allowed freedom to attack in a way they couldn't under Jose Mourinho. Solskjaer oversaw eight successive wins at the start of his managerial career at United, and 14 wins in his first 17 games, including a sensational comeback at Paris Saint-Germain in the Champions League. It all prompted Rio Ferdinand to gleefully and prematurely declare on live television in March that United should "let [then caretaker manager Solskjaer] write whatever numbers he wants to put on a contract and let him sign it. Ole's at the wheel, he's doing his thing. Man Utd are back!" The club obliged by signing Solskjaer up to a permanent deal, but things have somewhat come apart at the seams since. The trouble for United was that they were very much riding the crest of a wave. They were winning games without playing particularly well, and the statistics suggested they would eventually fall away. In Solskjaer's first 12 Premier League games as manager, in which United remained unbeaten, the team scored 29 goals and conceded 9. According to Opta's expected goals metric, which rates the quality of chances created and conceded, United 'should' have scored 22.94 goals and conceded 13.43. Their actual goal difference in those games was +20, when the data suggested it should have been around +10. The implication is that they were powered by a new-found confidence in attack (much to Solskjaer's credit), finishing off chances they might normally miss, and David De Gea's brilliance in goal. This season, they have reverted to the level the stats suggested they were at last term, both creating and scoring too few chances. There may be an element of doubt around Lampard's side, then: are this Chelsea just full of confidence and flying through win after win in much the same way Solskjaer's early United team did? There have been a few matches where that has been the case. The five goals in the mauling of Wolves, fuelled by Tammy Abraham's hat-trick, came from chances worth just 2.7 expected goals. Chelsea scored four when they should have scored 1.7 against Southampton, and they outscored their xG almost fourfold in the win at Burnley this weekend. There have been a few big wins that have made things appear better than they truly are. But there have also been a number of poor results when they deserved more. They might well have beaten Liverpool when they ended up losing 2-1; the draw with Sheffield United should have been a win; they should have easily seen off Valencia in their Champions League defeat at Stamford Bridge. In all competitions this season, Chelsea have score 35 goals from shots worth of 31.3 expected goals, but they have conceded 21 goals from chances worth 17.1. That is, Chelsea are showing better-than-average finishing under Lampard, but are also being beaten by good finishing, too. They should be scoring fewer goals but they should also be conceding fewer as well. The important point here is that their actual goal difference in all competitions this season is +14, and according to the quality of the chances they have created, it should be +14.2. The numbers suggest that if Chelsea revert to the mean at both ends of the pitch, they should be in largely the same situation. They are getting results that are a good overall reflection of their performances, so given there is clearly room for improvement on the pitch - not least in defence where they are far too leaky - results could even get better, too. kellzfresh, manpe, Johnnyeye and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Jason said: Frank Lampard's Chelsea are the real deal - this honeymoon period should not fade like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/10/29/frank-lampards-chelsea-real-deal-honeymoon-period-should-not/ Easy to get carried away. We went 18 games unbeaten under Sarri and all wasnt exactly well and good after that and even during that run. United went 13 or 14 unbeaten under Ole and now look. There's still lots for us to improve upon, defending set pieces, keeping clean sheets in general and without Pulisic's individual brilliance v Ajax and Burnley we arguably werent clinical or creative enough in spells of the games where we should of been due to how we played. These journalists havent taken into the account that we have got a lot of young players in key positions that make up the spine of a team (CB, AM, CF) and like all young players there will be games where they struggle or spells where they are inconsistent. We have to be patient with this team. Its easy to get excited yes but we are only 10 weeks into the season and still we havent played Man City, Arsenal and Spurs. Theres been plenty good so far but I do imagine this season still wont be plain sailing at all which other journalists and media outlets seem to be pointing towards. We should manage top 4 but Arsenal, Tottenham, United and even Leicester will push to the end for it too despite form, injuries, whatever else. Supermonkey92, Fernando, Iggy Doonican and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 hours ago, Jason said: Frank Lampard's Chelsea are the real deal - this honeymoon period should not fade like Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/10/29/frank-lampards-chelsea-real-deal-honeymoon-period-should-not/ I think a main difference is that OGS was just an ok player for ManUre whilst Lampard was absolute world class and is our greatest ever player and thus commands way more resepct within the club including the squad so he will definitely be given more time. Also Lamps has managed to transform the squad such that we now are very balanced with a lot of young players buying into Lampards ideas, and who can still be moulded whilst ManU have a very heterogenous group consisting of the remnants of various untuned shopping sprees of toxic egos, followers, a few fairly decent players and a few middling talents. That being said they are still more experienced than us in key positions so it will be a close call tomorrow and it is not guaranteed to stay this way if we become complacent. In the end however the main reason for ManUre's demise is unrelated to OGS but rather the consequence of Utd being run to generate shareholder value rather than win trophies. Especially their IPO has been the final nail in their coffin. Bosnian Blue and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted October 30, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted October 30, 2019 Chelsea’s Frank Lampard says dropping youngsters is only for ‘flip-floppers’ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/29/frank-lampard-chelsea-manager-manchester-united-carabao-cup “There is a lot of noise, win, lose or draw; selection, whatever 11 I pick,” he said. “With this big wide world of social media it will be dissected and people will have different opinions and some people who are ex-players or ex-managers will have different opinions. “I set out this season to see what these young boys could do. If I didn’t have a transfer ban and came to this club and had opportunities to bring players in during the summer, I still would have trusted the young boys. For me to have thrown that away after one game at Manchester United and a few opinions, that would have made me a bit of a flip-flopper.” Lampard, whose back four could look even more youthful if Reece James and Marc Guehi start against United, was asked what happens to young players who are dropped after one bad game. “That’s part of the process for a young player,” he said. “They have to feel you believe in them. I remember my managers giving me that sense they believed in me because everybody will have a bad game or an off day. I think that’s part of my job, to give all my players belief, but particularly the young ones who are playing their first games or whatever at Old Trafford.” !Hazard!, communicate, 1905didierblue and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,184 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Jason said: Chelsea’s Frank Lampard says dropping youngsters is only for ‘flip-floppers’ https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/29/frank-lampard-chelsea-manager-manchester-united-carabao-cup Love this attitude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 There's two things that really put Lamps in a good light and make me convinced he's destined to be a top manager. 1. His coaching staff. He has picked appropriate coaching staff, given he wants to the play the youth and a ingrane a modern approach to football who better to bring in next to him than the two managers that got the very best out of these boys? This could also give us continuity if Lampard decides he needs a new challenge and/or gets burned out as Jody or Joe could seemlessly slot into the job, like Tito did after Pep left Barca. The signs of a great manager is one who's willing to accept he needs help, look at what happened to Moyes when he walked into United and thought it was a good idea to get shot of Fergie's coaching staff (who were all willing to stay and ease the process for Moyes). 2. How he does it his own way. Despite him citing Jose as a mentor in his career he couldn't be further from him as a manager in terms of tactical approach, media handling, ego and selection patterns. Compare that to OGS at United who's basically saying "I want to emulate Fergie" every chance he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 He is so well spoken about what he wants and what he sees that needs to be done. Most of what he says is not prepared, it is very nice in an age where most managers in all sports just repeat the same prepared statements. manpe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted October 30, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Tomo said: There's two things that really put Lamps in a good light and make me convinced he's destined to be a top manager. 1. His coaching staff. He has picked appropriate coaching staff, given he wants to the play the youth and a ingrane a modern approach to football who better to bring in next to him than the two managers that got the very best out of these boys? This could also give us continuity if Lampard decides he needs a new challenge and/or gets burned out as Jody or Joe could seemlessly slot into the job, like Tito did after Pep left Barca. The signs of a great manager is one who's willing to accept he needs help, look at what happened to Moyes when he walked into United and thought it was a good idea to get shot of Fergie's coaching staff (who were all willing to stay and ease the process for Moyes). 2. How he does it his own way. Despite him citing Jose as a mentor in his career he couldn't be further from him as a manager in terms of tactical approach, media handling, ego and selection patterns. Compare that to OGS at United who's basically saying "I want to emulate Fergie" every chance he gets. Two underrated factors about Lampard are (1) he's English and (2) he articulates his points extremely well. Every time he answers a question, he always responds in depth, explains his reasoning in detail and because he also has a strong command of the English language, he is able to convey his points clear and precise. The language factor is not a criticism of past managers but with Lampard, there's no beat around the bush or read between the lines or things like that in the things he says. What you hear from him is what you get - clear, precise, direct. It's quite refreshing actually. Tomo, manpe, killer1257 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 He's December bloke on the Chelsea calander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: He's December bloke on the Chelsea calander Beware of the dreaded winter slump. Vybz Kartel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Beware of the dreaded winter slump. Haha that be awkward if he gets the sack! Get to December next year oh there he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Personally feel the lack of minutes he has given the likes of Batshuayi, Giroud and Pedro didnt help tonight. If theyd played more in the run they would of been more useful tonight as opposed to being rusty and in the next upcoming amount of games (although Giroud didnt play tonight he would of been a different proposition to Bats and even Tammy). Also think not subbing one of the MF players and Callum at HT was a mistake but hopefully he will learn from these things as he has from the other mistakes hes made. Mount just brings something different to the team, more understanding of when to play simple or complicated, much more urgency and the aggression without the ball. Never thought Id say it this early but he looks like he may be a key cog for us this year despire it being his first season in the first team squad. 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Hard to rotate given injuries and how unreliable some options we have tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: If theyd played more in the run they would of been more useful tonight as opposed to being rusty and in the next upcoming amount of games (although Giroud didnt play tonight he would of been a different proposition to Bats and even Tammy). Also think not subbing one of the MF players and Callum at HT was a mistake but hopefully he will learn from these things as he has from the other mistakes hes made. Lampard just doesn't fancy Giroud it seems and with Batshuayi, think yesterday's performance showed why he hasn't been starting games really. Looked poor throughout the game and no different to his cameo starts under previous managers. 6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Mount just brings something different to the team, more understanding of when to play simple or complicated, much more urgency and the aggression without the ball. Never thought Id say it this early but he looks like he may be a key cog for us this year despire it being his first season in the first team squad. It highlights our lack of backup option for him. Our midfield last night provided ZERO attacking runs. All 3 wanted ball at their feet and no one was making the runs. All left to Pulisic, CHO, Batshuayi trying to make something happen against United's mass defence. OneMoSalah, kellzfresh and Bosnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Personally feel the lack of minutes he has given the likes of Batshuayi, Giroud and Pedro didnt help tonight. If theyd played more in the run they would of been more useful tonight as opposed to being rusty and in the next upcoming amount of games (although Giroud didnt play tonight he would of been a different proposition to Bats and even Tammy). Also think not subbing one of the MF players and Callum at HT was a mistake but hopefully he will learn from these things as he has from the other mistakes hes made. Mount just brings something different to the team, more understanding of when to play simple or complicated, much more urgency and the aggression without the ball. Never thought Id say it this early but he looks like he may be a key cog for us this year despire it being his first season in the first team squad. I think the main problem is we felt so so about the game whereas United really wanted it. Had our "so so" approach gone up against Liverpool who were as good as actively trying to lose we'd have probably have won 5-1 or something like that (Arsenal have got away with negative coverage big time for actually getting knocked out to that side), like we did in the cup vs City that time. communicate and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nicco 927 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Cringe, very cringe question to be honest. Fernando, Atomiswave and Bosnian Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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