Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Pacquiao 1,834]

He wasn't good enough for Real Madrid. He looks good this season because he's playing for a mid-table side without any expectations.

We should be aiming to sign better players than Illaramendi.

neither was Robben, Sneijder, Cassano, Hunterlaar, Walter Samuel and Cambiasso

illarramendi is clearly a quality player and would have been a great replacement for Mikel in the summer, there is no denying that

[Reddish-Blue 2,370]

neither was Robben, Sneijder, Cassano, Hunterlaar, Walter Samuel and Cambiasso

illarramendi is clearly a quality player and would have been a great replacement for Mikel in the summer, there is no denying that

You believe he is quality player, I believe he lacks the mentality to play for a title-challenging team.

I think we should agree to disagree

[Pacquiao 1,834]

You believe he is quality player, I believe he lacks the mentality to play for a title-challenging team.

I think we should agree to disagree

he clearly doesnt, he just needed to feel loved, he suffered with a lack of confidence at RM, it would have been a good experience for him to learn from

[Spike 12,049]

neither was Robben, Sneijder, Cassano, Hunterlaar, Walter Samuel and Cambiasso

illarramendi is clearly a quality player and would have been a great replacement for Mikel in the summer, there is no denying that

Illaarramendi isn't those players, to compare them is incredibly asinine. Each player is exclusive to each other's experience at Real Madrid

he clearly doesnt, he just needed to feel loved, he suffered with a lack of confidence at RM, it would have been a good experience for him to learn from

Do you have direct quotes from Asier Illarramendi to back this claim up? If not I don't believe it to be true.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Do you have direct quotes from Asier Illarramendi to back this claim up? If not I don't believe it to be true.

LOL that was the reason why Rafa let him leave! he saw how unconfident he looked in training! he didnt want to be there!

[Spike 12,049]

LOL that was the reason why Rafa let him leave! he saw how unconfident he looked in training! he didnt want to be there!

Give me a source then.

LOL

[didierforever 7,349]

cesc and illara, :lol: what are we? an asylum for the weak minded?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Give me a source then.

LOL

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rafa-benitez-throws-towel-liverpool-arsenal-target-asier-illarramendi-about-leave-real-madrid-1515833

[Spike 12,049]

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rafa-benitez-throws-towel-liverpool-arsenal-target-asier-illarramendi-about-leave-real-madrid-1515833

There are no quotes or direct sources in that article that back up your claim. The only direct quote is that 'I will never play for Athletic de Bilbao'. There is nothing that states the reason Illarramendi left because 'he just needed to feel loved, he suffered with a lack of confidence at RM'.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

There are no quotes or direct sources in that article that back up your claim. The only direct quote is that 'I will never play for Athletic de Bilbao'. There is nothing that states the reason Illarramendi left because 'he just needed to feel loved, he suffered with a lack of confidence at RM'.

its common knowledge lol,

You should really do your research

[Spike 12,049]

its common knowledge lol,

You should really do your research

The burden of proof lies on you. It mustn't be 'common knowledge' when the sources you provide don't even mention it. I think you are full of nonsense and can't handle the fact you've been called out on something you've pulled out of your arse.

I'll be waiting for the post when you actually back up your claims.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

The burden of proof lies on you. It mustn't be 'common knowledge' when the sources you provide don't even mention it. I think you are full of nonsense and can't handle the fact you've been called out on something you've pulled out of your arse.

I'll be waiting for the post when you actually back up your claims.

yes so all the reports on it are lies and you know the truth! have a word with yourself!

[jmarlow 458]

its common knowledge lol,

You should really do your research

very true, that was the reason given, Rafa and Perez knew he was low on confidence and wasnt happy in Madrid, so they wanted to sell him asap so they could get more money for him rather then wait another season.

[Spike 12,049]

yes so all the reports on it are lies and you know the truth! have a word with yourself!

Yet, I've seen none of these reports as you've failed to show them. No, I did not say they were 'lies' nor do I know the 'truth' please do not put words in my mouth. I just don't take your word for it as you aren't the authority and I would like some sources that actually back what you state up, which you have failed to do consistently. I will believe it when a credible article with direct quotes is shown to me.

I'm not going to do your research for you. Show me proof.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

very true, that was the reason given, Rafa and Perez knew he was low on confidence and wasnt happy in Madrid, so they wanted to sell him asap so they could get more money for him rather then wait another season.

exactly, anyone who watched him at RM could see he was playing within himself, RM fans know that was case also, but apparently it i made it up as i didnt leave quotes as if any quotes would be in English and as if they would come out and disrespect the player by talking about him not being able to handle it at RM

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Yet, I've seen none of these reports as you've failed to show them. No, I did not say they were 'lies' nor do I know the 'truth' please do not put words in my mouth. I just don't take your word for it as you aren't the authority and I would like some sources that actually back what you state up, which you have failed to do consistently. I will believe it when a credible article with direct quotes is shown to me.

I'm not going to do your research for you. Show me proof.

how about NO, i am not going to spoon feed you, find them yourself they are not hard to find,

[Spike 12,049]

how about NO, i am not going to spoon feed you, find them yourself they are not hard to find,

So in other words you can't prove a single thing? Okay, you talk big but have nothing to show for it.

If it is so easy post it. It isn't about spoon feeding it is about backing yourself up, which you have failed to do. Why are you so defensive? I just want a source. This isn't personal.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

So in other words you can't prove a single thing? Okay, you talk big but have nothing to show for it.

If it is so easy post it. It isn't about spoon feeding it is about backing yourself up, which you have failed to do. Why are you so defensive? I just want a source. This isn't personal.

in other words, i am not going to spoon feed you! i have seen a number of articles if you dont want to go and search for them, thats up to you. Believe what you want to believe, i have nothing to prove i know i am right