Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 What's up with Schweinsteiger, from what I noticed he hasn't played much this year for Bayern. A surprising bid for him maybe?He was injured and Lahm has playing in his spot. Plus I dont think he would ever come to Chelsea tbh... Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 What do you think about Matic-Witsel?That would be very interesting, two monsters in midfield and Witsel is great going forward too. Wouldn't mind it but if Kroos or a fully fit Gundogan are available I'll take them over him. Rmpr and Beepu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 That CM position needs to be as defensive and running as Rambo, obviously the upgrade needs come into their technical play (imo long passing and long shooting would also be nice). He's has to have the endurance of Rambo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 lars is far more a rambo type of player than a matic type. i doubt mvg is that dissimilar to lars.What do you think about Matic-Witsel?that would be ideal. already know how to play together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 i doubt mvg is that dissimilar to lars.that would be ideal. already know how to play togethertrue. Mvg might very well turn out to be similar to lars. But its just weird how underrated lars' technical ability seems to be here.Anyways don't think any of the big names (kroos, vidal, pogba, witsel) will be possible to buy. We might very well end up getting a matic/rambo/mvg/romeu pivot options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 true. Mvg might very well turn out to be similar to lars. But its just weird how underrated lars' technical ability seems to be here.Anyways don't think any of the big names (kroos, vidal, pogba, witsel) will be possible to buy. We might very well end up getting a matic/rambo/mvg/romeu pivot options.Lars isn't known as a technical player though, sure he's a pretty decent passer but that's about it. Not sure why you would anyone would say that Lars is technical, no one is underrating that aspect of his game because he simply isn't that sort of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Lars isn't known as a technical player though, sure he's a pretty decent passer but that's about it. Not sure why you would anyone would say that Lars is technical, no one is underrating that aspect of his game because he simply isn't that sort of player.That's what my point is. I always thought ans still do that lars is very good techinically. Everytime I have seen him play, its what he does on the ball has impressed me as well as what he has done off the ball. Not the case with rambo. Specially last season when schurrle used to play uptop with keisling while bender-rolfes/reinartz in thw cwnter, sometimes in a 2 sometimes in a 3 man midfield.. It was his ability to drive the team forward that sets him out. He is very different from sven in that regards who is actually pretty limited in his passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 That would be very interesting, two monsters in midfield and Witsel is great going forward too. Wouldn't mind it but if Kroos or a fully fit Gundogan are available I'll take them over him.Dont think either of them would be our targets imo.Thats why I want us to go after somebody complete like Witsel or Rakitic. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 That's what my point is. I always thought ans still do that lars is very good techinically.How is he technically 'very good'? Unless you have a very low boundaries for technically good players I don't see how Lars Bender is "very good" technically. Technical attributes consist of more than passing you know... and his passing isn't even anything spectacular. He doesn't have vision or creativity, doesn't have the ability to take on two or three players at a time, doesn't have much attacking finesse or a great long range shot or finish... I don't know how anyone could say Lars Bender is a technical midfielder in the ilk of Modric, Kroos, Schweinsteiger, Pirlo, Alonso etc. just to name a few... Those are proper technical midfielders, not Lars, who is more about winning the ball back, great positional sense and just being a midfield warrior... He's not bad technically, don't get me wrong, but he isn't known as a technical midfielder at all. He's known for his great defensive contributions. Beepu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 The guy beside Matic whether its lamps or Rambo has so much dirty work to do. You buy one of those players who thinks he is the best in world to do that kind of role they instantly turn into pissy whiny brats. Despite all the scuff we give Rambo for his sloppy abilities nobody on the team could or would even want to fill in his shoes. So for the players you just suggest to make sense the way the pivot his played will change, which wouldn't be bad but we aren't the ones who get to choose the tactics. The more I think about the more I realize that a big name in that positions just isn't going to to work. It's always being criticized but I don't think having a players to play a Ramires type role is a bad thing at all, who cares if we do or don't have style moving up when we aren't picking up 3 points. Rambo is out team, if 1 players could summarize out team Chelsea is playing like Rambo and if it wins titles than don't fix it. So what do you guys think of Jordan Henderson? Not a massive upgrade but he's an English rambo who is progressing lighting fast this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 How is he technically 'very good'? Unless you have a very low boundaries for technically good players I don't see how Lars Bender is "very good" technically. Technical attributes consist of more than passing you know... and his passing isn't even anything spectacular. He doesn't have vision or creativity, doesn't have the ability to take on two or three players at a time, doesn't have much attacking finesse or a great long range shot or finish... I don't know how anyone could say Lars Bender is a technical midfielder in the ilk of Modric, Kroos, Schweinsteiger, Pirlo, Alonso etc. just to name a few... Those are proper technical midfielders, not Lars, who is more about winning the ball back, great positional sense and just being a midfield warrior... He's not bad technically, don't get me wrong, but he isn't known as a technical midfielder at all.When did I say he is in the same league as modric,kroos, bastian??? The only reason I keep bringing up lars is cos he is GOOD and a very gettable target compared to vidal, pogba, witsel who won't just cost us a fortune but most of them won't be willing to move.Also how can u say he does not have vision. Plus how many of the midfielders except for modric take on 2 or 3 players and dribble past them. Dint know we wanted iniesta for that matter. I for one have never seen bastian do that, or khedira for that matter. Even our own super frank for that matter. Since when does dribbling become this big a criteria. Leave that to the hazards and oscars and willians. What should be the most importabt criteria is quick, workrate, passing thru the channels. He is good in all. Add to that that he is just 24. I don't see how he would not make the grade here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Can you just imagine seeing Vidal next to Matic? My FUCKING god!We would seriously be the best side in world football I feel if we got him and a top striker. Our midfield would be impervious. I'd seriously tempt Juve with a bid in the summer. For me we need 3 signings this summer to complete our side and set us up for a new era of success for the foreseeable future. A ST, CM, and LB. In a perfect dream world it would be Cavani, Vidal, and Shaw. We would easily be able to afford them if we win the league. It would further increase our global popularity and therefor bring in even more cash flow, plus we have the new TV money next season.We could always cash in on Luiz and Ba, Eto'o, Cole, and some of the deadwood will be sold off. Bonus if we can offload Torres too. That's a lot in wages off the books and quite a bit of cash to spend before even tapping into whatever transfer kitty we would have in the first place. If we win the league hopefully Lamps could go out on top like Drogba did and move on.Next season-----------------Strikers: Cavani, Lukaku, and Schürlle if neededAM's: Hazard, Oscar, Willian, Schürrle, SalahCM's: Matic, Vidal, Ramires, MvG, MikelCB's: Terry, Cahill, Zouma, Ivanovic to rotate between CB and RBFB's: Azpi, Shaw, Ivanovic for rotationIncredible potential First XI-----------------------------Cavani-----------------------------------Hazard-------------Oscar-------------Willian--------------------------Matic-----------Vidal----------------------Shaw-------------Terry------------Cahill---------------Azpi---------------------------Courtois----------------------------- kellzfresh and mediator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 No chance Juve sell Vidal.Better chance of getting Pogba imo. yuvala 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 When did I say he is in the same league as modric,kroos, bastian??? The only reason I keep bringing up lars is cos he is GOOD and a very gettable target compared to vidal, pogba, witsel who won't just cost us a fortune but most of them won't be willing to move.Also how can u say he does not have vision. Plus how many of the midfielders except for modric take on 2 or 3 players and dribble past them. Dint know we wanted iniesta for that matter. I for one have never seen bastian do that, or khedira for that matter. Even our own super frank for that matter. Since when does dribbling become this big a criteria. Leave that to the hazards and oscars and willians. What should be the most importabt criteria is quick, workrate, passing thru the channels. He is good in all. Add to that that he is just 24. I don't see how he would not make the grade here.So do you seriously consider Lars Bender as that playmaker we need next to Matic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 No chance Juve sell Vidal.Better chance of getting Pogba imo.I'm not so sure. Pogba may be seen as the next big superstar who's young and can be the face of the club. I don't watch Juve often so I have to ask, which of the two seems to be more important to them? If say £35-40m were offered for Vidal do you think they'd sell?He doesn't seem like a big superstar player who I can never see moving. I think they'd sell if the right offer came in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I'm not so sure. Pogba may be seen as the next big superstar who's young and can be the face of the club. I don't watch Juve often so I have to ask, which of the two seems to be more important to them? If say £35-40m were offered for Vidal do you think they'd sell?He doesn't seem like a big superstar player who I can never see moving. I think they'd sell if the right offer came in.Vidal is a massive key player for sure.And he's the kind of player they wont let go.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Gundogan would be fucking perfect. Not too expensive, young, fits system and world class potential. Too bad his back problems take so much time. But if he recovers and for 25mio, that would be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 CostaHazard-Oscar-WillianMatic-GündoganShaw-Terry-Cahill-AzpiCech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Even if i like the prospect of having someone like Gundogan, Witsel, Vidal next to Matic, i think Pogba would be better.He is 20 and from the Man U Academy, would he become homegrown with one more season with us?He is really really good and only 20 and we would have a fucking world class pivot for the next ten years to comehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGfC_32hCCE#t=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 PSG and probably Madrid want Pogba. we wont get him, useless to talk about him. beside this, we wont pay that much for him, as we will buy a striker most likely too and Mou wants to play with the FFP rules.and Vidal wont be sold by any means. Juve arent a seller club and he himself just signed a new contract few months ago. dkim2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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