Non-Chelsea Transfer Pub

[Cosmin 2,484]

@Reddish-Blue - fair enough, there are reasons for each refusal, but still Ox chose Liverpool over us, Llorente chose Spurs over us, Lukaku chose United over us. For various reasons, but they still did!

[Alabama 1,992]

Llorente never chose spurs over us....we couldnt agree a fee with Swansea...

[Alabama 1,992]

I cant wrap my heads around the hype people have for Llorente right on here...

[Cosmin 2,484]

23 minutes ago, eemanyooel said:

Llorente never chose spurs over us....we couldnt agree a fee with Swansea...

There are reports claiming otherwise. I've read that Spurs matched our bid and they got him.

However, it's not really about Llorente himself or Danilo or Ox. It's about the fact that the manager wanted these dudes (or at least that's what we know) and the club wasn't able to get them, while other clubs were. That's the issue.

On a side note, it's remarkable how the all of the Premier League transfer sagas of this summer hit rock bottom and nothing happened. Coutinho and Costa are still Liverpool and Chelsea players , unless something happens today, Van Dijk is still a Southampton player, while Alexis remains at Arsenal. Fantastic.

[Reddish-Blue 2,347]

15 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

There are reports claiming otherwise. I've read that Spurs matched our bid and they got him.

However, it's not really about Llorente himself or Danilo or Ox. It's about the fact that the manager wanted these dudes (or at least that's what we know) and the club wasn't able to get them, while other clubs were. That's the issue.

On a side note, it's remarkable how the all of the Premier League transfer sagas of this summer hit rock bottom and nothing happened. Coutinho and Costa are still Liverpool and Chelsea players , unless something happens today, Van Dijk is still a Southampton player, while Alexis remains at Arsenal. Fantastic.

Costa isn't really a Chelsea player as he won't be pulling on the Chelsea jersey anytime soon.  The question is: will Atletico sign him now or wait till January. 

As for Van Dijk, I have total respect for the Southampton board after this saga.  They said they would not sell him to Liverpool after the tapping up and they stuck by their word. 

As for Alexis Sanchez, I feel sorry for the guy.   He wants to win trophies, he wants to play with the best and now he's stuck at Arsenal for another 6 to 12 months. 

[cosmicway 1,324]

It's certainly not near as spectacular as United's.
Could have been better, but those players have to prove themselves.
If not, given that we ditched Costa and Matic, it does n't look good.
We will know in about a month's time.

[Alabama 1,992]

25 minutes ago, Cosmin said:

There are reports claiming otherwise. I've read that Spurs matched our bid and they got him.

However, it's not really about Llorente himself or Danilo or Ox. It's about the fact that the manager wanted these dudes (or at least that's what we know) and the club wasn't able to get them, while other clubs were. That's the issue.

On a side note, it's remarkable how the all of the Premier League transfer sagas of this summer hit rock bottom and nothing happened. Coutinho and Costa are still Liverpool and Chelsea players , unless something happens today, Van Dijk is still a Southampton player, while Alexis remains at Arsenal. Fantastic.

No spurs matched Swansea valuation...we only matched their bid when llorente during his medical examination...we were only negotiating llorentes fee with swansea and couldn't match their valuation...The only downside is they are players Contes target....so the fuck up is on the board for once again been certified in the school of penny pinching..

[Alabama 1,992]

7 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

It's certainly not near as spectacular as United's.
Could have been better, but those players have to prove themselves.
If not, given that we ditched Costa and Matic, it does n't look good.
We will know in about a month's time.

what is so spectacular about United....Its a long season again...yes they are a good side but only 3 games into the season....everyone joining the united hype...

[BMox81 193]

2 hours ago, DDA said:

Let's surrender at the mercy of Europe and pay 90m for a foreign name with every transfer. Fuck developing Musonda. Who cares about Christensen. Leave Boga on loan for good. RLC will never cut it here. Abraham just isn't Chelsea quality. We need to take a leaf out of City's book...they just keep on winning trophies and dominating English football.

Where did I say anything about paying 90m for every transfer? I just want top quality players at my club.

Can I be held responsible if the likes of RLC or Tammy potentially don't have what it takes to make it at Chelsea? No. That's on them. If Musonda hasn't developed enough in the time he's been at the club to the point where he should be challenging for a place in the first team, then maybe it just isn't meant to be. Same with all the others.

[sainttourist 68]

 

[silviupastean 135]

7 hours ago, Cosmin said:

Spot on.

If you think about it, we covered our flaws just as good as United have, yet their image after this window is way better, because they didn't run after 50 targets. They got exactly what they needed and they did that early.

i don't really believe we covered our flaws that much. I mean, after we won the premier league, Conte said we have to strengthen and add to the squad if we want to challenge on all fronts

1st team-wise, we brought in 7 players and we sold/loaned out 8 (11 if you count Oscar, Mikel & Ivanovic from last winter)

IN

Caballero - Rudiger - Christensen - Zappacosta - Bakayoko - Drinkwater - Morata 

 

OUT

Begovic - Ake - Zouma - Terry - Matic - Chalobah - RLC - Costa(good as gone)

 

So, squad-wise, we are worse off than last year, and we also have to compete in the Champions League. We have fewer players for more competitions. 

 

Although i am excited about christesen, zappa, baka and morata, generally i think we did some bad business. Buying two players on deadline day is never a good thing. It worked out last year with alonso and luiz, but for these guys it takes time to get match fit, get used to conte, the cub, the team. no preseason with us...

 

and yeah, it really sucks that two mediocre players in Ox and Barkley refused us so that they can win f*ckall at pool, tottenham, everton  

[calculatingInfinity 1,443]

I understand being disappointed with the transfer window, but the ones labeling it a disaster and calling for people to get sacked are silly. 

Overall I am confident Chelsea are strengthened from last season. But I am still mourning the loss of Costa for Morata. Not that I dislike Morata in any way, but he just isn't Costa. However the defense has been greatly strengthened. Rudiger is a great CB and Christensen is already a very great defender as well, with lots of growing room still. Zappacosta is a solid to good right back, in a position that greatly needed covering. Left back is still quite shit, if Alonso gets injured or suspended, but it is what it is. Only players really lost from last season is Terry, who might have been big in the dressing room, but was clearly now too old to play any decent part on the pitch. Ake who was clearly not trusted (and honestly for good reasons seeing him defend now). I guess Zouma as well although he was injured pretty much all of last season. But I think it's clearly for the best he was loaned out to get stable game time, after such horrible injury. Think he will come back strong.

Midfield? While I certainly think Chalobah should have stayed, it's hard to say it isn't better now, seeing as Conte clearly didnt trust him or the other younger midfield options anyway. Matic who seems to only play half a good season per year, replaced with Bakayoko seems like a very good decision, even if selling Matic to United was annoying. Bakayoko, Kante and Fabregas are 3 great players, and I think Drinkwater is at the very least, a decent option as well.

Wings are still strong and really about the same, not a big change. Forwards however, a bit weakened. But I feel like getting rid of Costa was almost unavoidable now. So I guess Morata is the best option here.

Overall an acceptable transfer window for me. Although I also wish the club would have been more ambitious. But I am rather pleased, and think the squad is in good conditions to compete in all the competitions it's in. 

 

Edit: forgot keeper position. Losing Begovic was sad, I really do like him. But an ok replacement. Certainly weakened there though.

[calculatingInfinity 1,443]

17 minutes ago, silviupastean said:

IN

Caballero - Rudiger - Christensen - Zappacosta - Bakayoko - Drinkwater - Morata 

 

OUT

Begovic - Ake - Zouma - Terry - Matic - Chalobah - RLC - Costa(good as gone)

 

So, squad-wise, we are worse off than last year, and we also have to compete in the Champions League. We have fewer players for more competitions. 

 

Ake, RLC and Chalobah were clearly not trusted by Conte and weren't getting any real game time anyway, despite being in the first team squad. Terry was also clearly not good enough for the premier league anymore, which is why he was hardly played in the end, and was really just a glorified backroom staff member. Zouma was injured almost all season, and can't really be counted towards last years squad.

Certainly if we count those towards the IN/OUT comparison here, we should also add Musonda, Clarke-Salter,  Rahman, and so on, as players coming in.

[BXL70 396]

I am glad with our transfer window. Our team has definitely improved over last year: Morata > Costa;; Rudiger > Terry. I just hope that Bakayoko will be better than Matic. It won't be easy. And we have Drinkwater and Zappa in addition.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

30 minutes ago, BXL70 said:

I am glad with our transfer window. Our team has definitely improved over last year: Morata > Costa;; Rudiger > Terry. I just hope that Bakayoko will be better than Matic. It won't be easy. And we have Drinkwater and Zappa in addition.

Christiansen for Zouma is better too

[Dimitr 488]

1 hour ago, silviupastean said:

i don't really believe we covered our flaws that much. I mean, after we won the premier league, Conte said we have to strengthen and add to the squad if we want to challenge on all fronts

1st team-wise, we brought in 7 players and we sold/loaned out 8 (11 if you count Oscar, Mikel & Ivanovic from last winter)

IN

Caballero - Rudiger - Christensen - Zappacosta - Bakayoko - Drinkwater - Morata 

 

OUT

Begovic - Ake - Zouma - Terry - Matic - Chalobah - RLC - Costa(good as gone)

 

So, squad-wise, we are worse off than last year, and we also have to compete in the Champions League. We have fewer players for more competitions. 

 

Although i am excited about christesen, zappa, baka and morata, generally i think we did some bad business. Buying two players on deadline day is never a good thing. It worked out last year with alonso and luiz, but for these guys it takes time to get match fit, get used to conte, the cub, the team. no preseason with us...

 

and yeah, it really sucks that two mediocre players in Ox and Barkley refused us so that they can win f*ckall at pool, tottenham, everton  

Better to have drinkwater on the bench instead of to have chalobah and cheek.  This an upgrade

think better 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

I know he can be a bit crass, sometimes.  But, he makes me laugh.

 

 

[oldportblue 547]

4 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I know he can be a bit crass, sometimes.  But, he makes me laugh.

 

 

agree, crass but funny!