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[!Hazard! 3,394]

Buy Kanté or Nainggolan, Verratti and Stones. Bring Solanke and Ake back from loan. Those would be my moves from the summer. And get rid of Oscar, Mikel and Remy.

On loan: Musonda, Christensen, Kalas, Baker (+ the others who'll never play for CFC anyways)

Verratti called Conte the best manager he's ever had. Could it somehow be possible that Conte would be able to convince Verratti to join us? That would be sensational but yeah, I know, it is an unrealistic scenario at least at the moment. I believe buying Stones is only a question of money, £50m should be enough. Mangala didn't cost much less and is an inferior player. Plus the value of a (potentially) world class HG-player cannot be understated. 

 

First XI: Courtois; Azpilicueta, Zouma, Stones, Baba; Verratti, Fabregas, Matic; Willian, Hazard; Costa

Second XI: Begovic; Ivanovic, Miazga, Cahill, Ake; Kanté/Nainggolan, Loftus-Cheek; Pedro, Kenedy; Traore, Solanke

 

Solanke might look like a weak option as the other striker (if Traore isn't considered a striker) but I believe it is worth a try. Surely he's got the talent to make it here and someone like Conte could be the right manager for him to achieve his full potential. 

 

[lucio 5,418]

8 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

Buy Kanté or Nainggolan, Verratti and Stones. Bring Solanke and Ake back from loan. Those would be my moves from the summer. And get rid of Oscar, Mikel and Remy.

On loan: Musonda, Christensen, Kalas, Baker (+ the others who'll never play for CFC anyways)

Verratti called Conte the best manager he's ever had. Could it somehow be possible that Conte would be able to convince Verratti to join us? That would be sensational but yeah, I know, it is an unrealistic scenario at least at the moment. I believe buying Stones is only a question of money, £50m should be enough. Mangala didn't cost much less and is an inferior player. Plus the value of a (potentially) world class HG-player cannot be understated. 

 

First XI: Courtois; Azpilicueta, Zouma, Stones, Baba; Verratti, Fabregas, Matic; Willian, Hazard; Costa

Second XI: Begovic; Ivanovic, Miazga, Cahill, Ake; Kanté/Nainggolan, Loftus-Cheek; Pedro, Kenedy; Traore, Solanke

 

Solanke might look like a weak option as the other striker (if Traore isn't considered a striker) but I believe it is worth a try. Surely he's got the talent to make it here and someone like Conte could be the right manager for him to achieve his full potential. 

 

on current form, it would be crazy to spend £50m on stones

[!Hazard! 3,394]

18 minutes ago, lucio said:

on current form, it would be crazy to spend £50m on stones

You shouldn't base players' value on their February form. Nobody apart from Leicester players, Willian and Luis Suárez seems to be in-form at the moment in world football.

I honestly don't even know what the market value of most players is anymore. It's only matter of time before first £100m transfer happens and something like £50m just isn't that much money nowadays. As if the market wasn't insane enough, the Chinese have come and made it more unpredictable and chaotic. It is more likely than not that Stones will be the first-choice centreback for English national team for quite some time and that alone is worth the pricetag. If he doesn't perform according to the standards of this club, he could still be sold for quite a large chunk of money. Or maybe the Chinese will pay £500m for him and we'll finance the renovation of Stamford Bridge with that.

[the wes 7,212]

7 hours ago, lucio said:

on current form, it would be crazy to spend £50m on stones

We could get Alessio Romagnoli round about £30m he seems like a good player hes only 21 there's alot of talk coming outta of Italy he's the new nesta 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

12 hours ago, lucio said:

on current form, it would be crazy to spend £50m on stones

Especially if Leonardo Bonucci is really available. Granted Bonucci will be 29 by the time next season kicks off but we could certainly anticipate getting 4/5 years out of a CB of that age. The home grown factor is important but maybe there are other options for that.

[Etoo fils 45]

Would you swap Hazard for Verratti. I would every day. The kid is sensational and Hazard despite his talent, never really show he wanted to be one of the best in the world.

[lucio 5,418]

6 hours ago, the wes said:

We could get Alessio Romagnoli round about £30m he seems like a good player hes only 21 there's alot of talk coming outta of Italy he's the new nesta 

Conte would know, as national team manager, he has good judgement

 

2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Especially if Leonardo Bonucci is really available. Granted Bonucci will be 29 by the time next season kicks off but we could certainly anticipate getting 4/5 years out of a CB of that age. The home grown factor is important but maybe there are other options for that.

I agree, he is one of the best, but seems a very dirty player, could see him getting sent off alot. although I thought costa would too

[Muzchap 8,966]

4 hours ago, Etoo fils said:

Would you swap Hazard for Verratti. I would every day. The kid is sensational and Hazard despite his talent, never really show he wanted to be one of the best in the world.

That's like comparing an apple to an orange?

Do we need a verratti type player - yes IMHO 

we actually need a 'motivated' Eden and Verratti type player if we are to achieve anything next season, so I wouldn't swap

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Would love to see Mata back, if Hazard leaving. He will be sold no matter what if Jose ended up at MU though. Poor fella.

[killer1257 3,282]

How is William Carvahlo doing right now?

[Melanicus 5,208]

Call me mad, but I'd go for Scott Dann in the summer. He has been having excellent performances for quite some time now.

[Unionjack 7,532]

Read more and more reports about us being 'linked' with Leroy Sane (along with every other club worth a mention). And shelling out £40mill for a 20 year old. His release clause is apparently £27.7 mill

[iseah100 5,612]

That's like comparing an apple to an orange?

Do we need a verratti type player - yes IMHO 

we actually need a 'motivated' Eden and Verratti type player if we are to achieve anything next season, so I wouldn't swap

Why can't fruit be compared?

[chelseafan26 293]

13 hours ago, Melanicus said:

Call me mad, but I'd go for Scott Dann in the summer. He has been having excellent performances for quite some time now.

He is a decent player but its a liverpool/spurs kind of buy. He is 29, will cost a few bucks, and simply not the buy we should be looking for. We have GC/JT as our back up options. we have christensen in the wings along who can take over from GC/JT in an year. What we need now is a world class partner for zouma (if he comes back as good as he was). Scott Dann wont be a solution.

I hope we start playing 4-3-3 next season. Our most potent creative force is cesc, and a 2-man pivot just does not suit him. 

I hope we have this squad for next season. 

Gks - thibaut, begovic (HG), blackman (HG)

Defs - Zouma, Marquinhos/stones/laporte/inigo-martinez, JT/GC (HG), azpi, baba, ake (HG), iva, aina? (HG)

CMs - Matic, cesc (HG), Kante, Radja, Rlc (HG), Mikel

Wingers - Hazard, willian, Pedro, Kenedy

Strikers - costa, traore, lacazzete.

 

The main problem with this is that we have some absolute gems in players like boga and musonda. and our whole youth system seems to top heavy. So, that would be the only reason i would want to continue with 4-2-3-1. In that case i would like to see this squad.

Gks - thibaut, begovic (HG), blackman (HG)

Defs - Zouma, Marquinhos/stones/laporte/inigo-martinez, JT/GC (HG), azpi, baba, ake (HG), iva, aina? (HG)

CMs - Matic, cesc (HG), Kante/Radja, Rlc (HG), Mikel

AMs - Hazard, willian, Pedro,Isco/Payet, Kenedy, Musonda

Strikers - costa, traore, lacazzete.

 

None the less, we need a quality CB, a quality CM, and depending on the manager another quality CM/Am(radja/isco)

[Muzchap 8,966]

8 hours ago, iseah100 said:

Why can't fruit be compared?

It can but when you need an Apple an Orange won't do

[the wes 7,212]

I have been reading that conte likes playing with two forwards I would love to see Chelsea buy Griezmann this summer him and Costa would be a perfect partnership 

[manpe 10,861]

21 minutes ago, the wes said:

I have been reading that conte likes playing with two forwards I would love to see Chelsea buy Griezmann this summer him and Costa would be a perfect partnership 

If we play with two forwards, will there be a place for Fabregas in a 2 man midfield? Usually giving up numbers in midfield means you have to have energetic and dynamic players in there, not to mention they have to be above average at defending. Cesc doesn't fit the bill if we go 4-4-2. However the likes of Vidal and Nainggolan match up, and they are the players we are linked with.

[Unionjack 7,532]

With all these 'links' with Pjanic lets hope hes not had some long chats with our old mate Salah eh!

[killer1257 3,282]

56 minutes ago, manpe said:

If we play with two forwards, will there be a place for Fabregas in a 2 man midfield? Usually giving up numbers in midfield means you have to have energetic and dynamic players in there, not to mention they have to be above average at defending. Cesc doesn't fit the bill if we go 4-4-2. However the likes of Vidal and Nainggolan match up, and they are the players we are linked with.

But where is the creativity in that kind of midfield?

[manpe 10,861]

1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

But where is the creativity in that kind of midfield?

Proper full-backs, wingers and 2 forwards supported by two B2B midfielders. It's a different kind of creativity than what we rely on now, but with proper wing play it can work. United used to do it to devastating effect.