Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 --------------------------Turnbull----------------------------Bosingwa---------Ferreira------Terry--------------Cole--------------------Mikel--------------Anelka-------------------------------------------Lampard-----------------------Kalou-------------------------------------------------Malouda-----------------------------Samba-----------------------------Manager: Sam AllardyceBig Sam would not stand for the skills of Kalou and Malouda! He would want Chec Tiote in the middle and Heskey partnering Samba at front, with Paul Robinson in goal to smash it up to them. De Jong would also be good in midfield for the leg breaking tackles of 40 years ago which Big Sam still craves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 if we had everyone healthy we could be really good, but i think out formation needs to be revamped...4-2-1-2-1-------Cech-------ivan-luiz-terry-cole--essien--oriol-------Ramires-------mata--danny--------torres--------that could and would be great and fast...OR(same back four)------essien---------mata---danny--------lamps---------drogba-torres--only saying that 4-1-2-1-2 because i use that in FIFA and its crazy good!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 AVB has flirted at times with a 4-2-3-1 and I think that would work well if we hadA. A quality left winger (Mata would obviously move into the CAM position), the problem is that when we do go to a 4-2-3-1 atm the options for the left wing role are either Malouda or Kalou, not good enough.B. A striker, obviously we have Drogba and Drogba is great but looking ahead to the future, a longterm top class centre forward would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmessy 139 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 but switching to a 4-2-1-2-1 will have our defense have a little more help along with having danny and mata more free space to roam and go forward, along with giving torres those diagonal lead passes he loves so much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 if we had everyone healthy we could be really good, but i think out formation needs to be revamped...4-2-1-2-1-------Cech-------ivan-luiz-terry-cole--essien--oriol-------Ramires-------mata--danny--------torres--------that could and would be great and fast...OR(same back four)------essien---------mata---danny--------lamps---------drogba-torres--only saying that 4-1-2-1-2 because i use that in FIFA and its crazy good!!The first is more or less what we play right now, with the exception of essien of course.The second you don't want to try except in FIFA...trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 if we had everyone healthy we could be really good, but i think out formation needs to be revamped...4-2-1-2-1-------Cech-------ivan-luiz-terry-cole--essien--oriol-------Ramires-------mata--danny--------torres--------that could and would be great and fast...OR(same back four)------essien---------mata---danny--------lamps---------drogba-torres--only saying that 4-1-2-1-2 because i use that in FIFA and its crazy good!! The second one is madness and is never going to happen plus i cant see Ess coming back to being anything like his best again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What if we played a 4-2-1-3 with EVERYBODY healthy, and bought Gary Cahill, A. Perriera and milos krasic I'd like to see this PerrierA/Cole-Cahill/Luiz- JT- Ivan Ramires/oriol- Essien/Luiz(needs shot at dm) mata/mierles/lamps Mata/krasic-Drogs/Torres-Studge/Krasic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I personally think we should bring the diamond back since we now have the players for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I personally think we should bring the diamond back since we now have the players for it.AVB won't give the 4-3-3 up. He'd rather play Torres on the wing than play with two strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 The first one's way too defensive and I find the second one very offensive. I can see why you love these formations, though. If you put two DM's in FIFA your defense is invincible (God I fucking hate it when people do that), and with the second one you can score a lot of goals.Anyway, I'd like to see a 4-2-3-1 or an asymmetrical 4-3-3:------------------------18-----------------------??---------------------10--------------------23-------------------------------------------------------------------6--------------7----------------3---------------26-------------4-------------??-------------------------1-----------------------------------------------18---------------------------------------10----------------------------23??------------------------------7-----------------------------------------6------------------------3---------------26--------------4------------??-------------------------1------------------------Whatever we do, Mata must be in the middle, and there has to be a left winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 it is players playing to their ability we need ,,and fuck the formation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Bluelion that is a quality shout, i would not mind that for home games, Mata can play that CAM role with Sturridge's world class pace upfront. Lampard could not function in that system because he lacks agility behind the striker, Mata would be a very annoying player to play against in that role and i also think Ramires would love to play in the CM with Raul and Romeu holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefreeluke 27 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Playing a diamond formation would be a waste of time in my opinion. We end up relying too much on full backs and I think it's easy to stop, we also lack width. 4-3-3 is fine if you ask me. I agree a left winger is what we need as Mata should be pushed into the middle. I prefer Sturridge on the right, playing him as a central striker means we would have nobody to play on the right wing. Sturridge has adapted very well on the right hand side, he sees more of the ball in that position also.Our current best team is this:CechIvan Luiz Terry ColeRomeu Ramires Lamps/MeirelesSturridge Drogba MataA new left winger means we could put Mata into Lampard and Meireles position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 What would be your ideal Chelsea side for 2012 and The Start of Next Season, Try to keep it as Realistic as Possible, No Messi, Xavi, Ronaldo etcMine would be as Such---------------------------------------------------------Cech------------------------------------------------------------------A New RB---------------------Luiz---------------------Terry-----------------------Cole---------------------------------------------------Essien/Romeu---------------------Ramires/Meireles----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Gotze/Mata---------------------------------------------------------------Sturridge/Lucas------------------------Torres/Sturridge-----------------------------Hazard/Mata----------Hazard, well it's obvious why I want him, Immense Talent, would add great Creativity and He like Mata can Cut inside really well but also Tear down the Wings. This would allow Mata to be the CAM, Gotze would be the Second, Fall back option if we couldn't Land Hazard, will be a World Class CAM. And Lucas is also a Good option, can play RW and CAM and As a Result we could use Sturridge as a CF sometimes. Lucas would be quite Verastile. I'd lik at least 2 of those Players. A New RB is Esseintial IMO. Bosingwa is just bad...Ivanovic should be available as CB Cover, so a New RB would be Welcome, which would leave us with 4 CB's, Ivanovic, Luiz,Cahill and terry which is what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 ---------------------------------------------------------Cech------------------------------------------------------------------Ivanovic ---------------------Luiz/Cahill---------------------Terry-----------------------Cole---------------- ----Lampard/Ramires ----------Josh/Romeo -----------Kevin De Bruyne/Essien-------- --------Sturridge------------------------Torres-----------------------------Mata---------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Drog 1,110 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 From a realistic point of view.CechIvanovic, Luiz, Terry, ColeRamires, Romeu, ModricSturridge, If not Drogba then basically any other striker would be an improvement on current options, Mata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosnian Blue 2,471 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 4-2-3-1 could be great with Mata filling his favourite number 10 position and Hazard on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Bluelion that is a quality shout, i would not mind that for home games, Mata can play that CAM role with Sturridge's world class pace upfront. Lampard could not function in that system because he lacks agility behind the striker, Mata would be a very annoying player to play against in that role and i also think Ramires would love to play in the CM with Raul and Romeu holding.Absolutely agreed! What we could do is 'extend' the diamond and have the two holding players, ie:Romeu - MeirelesRamires ----------------------------------- SturridgeMataDrogba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodZola 630 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 For me its more to do with the way AVB can't select a formation against the sides we are expected to win against rather than the teams who are/have quality. Recently we beat Valencia, City and should of beaten Spurs (away i might add) playing with a deep defensive line, we then drop 4 points against Wigan and Fulham (at f'kin home!) playing the same way, and barely creating a chance in either game were we could of lost both. IMHO he needs to tweak the formation against the lesser sides so we go for the jugular straight from the off, get the game won and let them come out so they cannot put 10 men behind the ball, this inevitably will leave gaps at the back for the likes of Sturridge, Mata to mop up on the counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 If you want to challenge at the top you need 2 top players competing in every position.------------------------------------------Cech/Courtious----------------------------------------------Ivanovic/Hutchinson-------Terry/Cahill---------Luiz/Bruma-------------Bertrand/Cole------------------------------------------Romeu/Essien----------------------------------------------------------------------Modric/McEachran----------Ramires/Meireles---------------------------Sturridge/Hazard----------------------------------------------------------------------Mata/Gotze-----------------------------------------Cavani/Higuain---------------------------------------------Other squad playersTurnbull - 3rd choice goallieLampard - Scholes like expierenceDrogba - If he accepts a one year deal and a lesser roleFerreira - Doesn't complain when he doesn't play and does a job when does, as far as players that need to go he is well down the pecking order compared to Malouda, Bosingwa and co.Chalaboh - Slowly bleed into the squad.Kane - Likewise.B.Clifford - same again.Piazon - same again.C.Clifford - Slowly replace Essien and competition for Romeu.31 players8 homegrown (players bolded)13 foreign spaces10 under 21's (players underlined)Lukaku on loan out for the season.Sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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