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The thing that is starting to bug me about AVB is that the "Old Guard", seem to be cemented back in the team. Terry-Lampard and Drogba have played the last few games.

He pressed the panic button, thats why he is back to the old 4-3-3 system with Drogba up front and Lampard in the mid.

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He pressed the panic button, thats why he is back to the old 4-3-3 system with Drogba up front and Lampard in the mid.

It is so frustrating to see Torres on the bench..Sturridge and Torres up front with Mata in the "hole" would be a great attack....

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Roberto Di matteo - got West Brom promoted and played good football. Was very harshly sacked also. Chelsea Legend who would command respect of the players. Could guide us till the end of the season and then make a judgement. Anyone else think RDM could step up and do the job??

If they didn't respond to Ancelotti, aren't responding to AVB, what makes you think they're going to respond to RDM? Ancelotti has one of the best CVs of managers in the last 15 years and won the Double. AVB was the boy genius with the 13M pound backing of the owner. You think RDM as a former player with a brief stint at WBA is going to get through some of the skulls in Cobham?

The managers change, the spine of the team hasn't and the same issues pop up each season. So who's the problem?

Trust me, I'm not absolving AVB. I think he's not helped himself at all with some of decisions, behavior and press handlings. Absolutely disappointing for someone we all thought as very bright and articulate. But ultimately his hands are tied by an aging but still politically powerful core of players.

Roy Keane, Tim Howard, RVN and Rio Ferninand made up United's spine in 2004-05. Where are they now? Rio's barely getting a game nowadays. Yet Chelsea's spine from that season just started 2 must win games in 4 days!

I agree with Henrique that AVB backed away from the window ledge and reverted to the old spine in order to scrape out a couple of wins. The sad irony is that he compromised his much talked about footballing principles and got zero points for it. If Chelsea are going to get zero points, I would rather see a team made up of the younger veterans mixed in with some youngsters and because of squad limitations, sprinkling in an oldie here and there. At least while losing, AVB would be making an investment in a team that can challenge in 2012-13.

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From BBC:

Chelsea goalkeeper Petr Cech has delivered a damning assessment of Chelsea's current failings, pinning the blame firmly on the players and absolving manager Andre Villas-Boas of responsibility. "The manager is not on the pitch, we are on the pitch and we are making mistakes," Cech said. "He cannot do anything about individual mistakes while he is standing by the bench."

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You must be kidding. VB is puting himself under pressure, the fact that this topic was crested to support him only shows that he is under pressure.

He shouldn't be under pressure. Certainly not with job security anyway!

Firing every manager because they start badly is stupid. Especially one you pay £13million for. One that all clubs around Europe were circulating around. The problem is not 100% him. It's 50-60% the players he's trying to get to believe in his system and play that way.

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From BBC:

Chelsea goalkeeper Petr Cech has delivered a damning assessment of Chelsea's current failings, pinning the blame firmly on the players and absolving manager Andre Villas-Boas of responsibility. "The manager is not on the pitch, we are on the pitch and we are making mistakes," Cech said. "He cannot do anything about individual mistakes while he is standing by the bench."

He's 100% right.

Feel sorry for him.. Last season, it was his magnificent keeping that kept us afloat and in contention. It's the same this season, but worse in defence. 2 managers are not at fault for lackadaisical play.

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He's 100% right.

Feel sorry for him.. Last season, it was his magnificent keeping that kept us afloat and in contention. It's the same this season, but worse in defence. 2 managers are not at fault for lackadaisical play.

Exactly there is only so much a manager can do. Its the fact we haven't freshened up the squad enough and this is mainly down to hiring and firing so many managers.

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Exactly he needs to buy players who he feel will make a difference not whose he's been pushed towards buying!

And agree he shouldnt feel under pressure sack wise and all..shouldnt have to feel that is he first few months after a poor run his job is in danger!Needs the time to make things work build a squad and get us back where we should be but was never going to happen over night

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I find it interesting how Roman is known for not having patience with managers, but since QPR and Arsenal fans were the ones who wanted AVB to be sacked.

Andre is going to stay, Roman isn't stupid.

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Exactly there is only so much a manager can do. Its the fact we haven't freshened up the squad enough and this is mainly down to hiring and firing so many managers.

Exactly he needs to buy players who he feel will make a difference not whose he's been pushed towards buying!

Yeah.

And how's the manager supposed to change this squad, when he keeps getting fired? He may as well not bother. We argue this is 'Mouinho's squad' well that's because no manager's been given the time to make their own.

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I don't think I'll be able to support Chelsea under Roman if AvB gets sacked anytime soon. We're turning into a joke with the way things have been handled in the managerial sense, sacking AvB would just about do it for me. I do remain hopeful that all the "pressure on AvB" theories in the media are nothing more than their usual club-in-crisis headlines

I understand your feelings ,,,I was here long before Roman arrived and I hope YOU will be here supporting Chelsea when both I and Roman have gone.

KTF friend though I know it's hard just now

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Yeah.

And how's the manager supposed to change this squad, when he keeps getting fired? He may as well not bother. We argue this is 'Mouinho's squad' well that's because no manager's been given the time to make their own.

Another thing is Jose inherited a much better squad. most nearly all players where in there prime of there careers.

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Yeah.

And how's the manager supposed to change this squad, when he keeps getting fired? He may as well not bother. We argue this is 'Mouinho's squad' well that's because no manager's been given the time to make their own.

Exactly!! And Jose left yonks back yet when the longest serving manager since then has had only 2 years...the squad isnt going to change drastically

Someone else will come in and be the same issues,same squad..short amount of time to choose the players they want and round in circles we go.Yes we took a risk hiring him but that could be said when hiring any manager.They may have experince but that doesnt always pay off and show

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Exactly!! And Jose left yonks back yet when the longest serving manager since then has had only 2 years...the squad isnt going to change drastically

Someone else will come in and be the same issues,same squad..short amount of time to choose the players they want and round in circles we go.Yes we took a risk hiring him but that could be said when hiring any manager.They may have experince but that doesnt always pay off and show

Lol, if we hire an experienced one = he's probably too old, we need someone younger who'll create a legacy.

someone younger = he's too inexperienced, we need someone like Hiddink

:lol:

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