LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 You must be kidding. VB is puting himself under pressure, the fact that this topic was crested to support him only shows that he is under pressure.He shouldn't be under pressure. Certainly not with job security anyway! Firing every manager because they start badly is stupid. Especially one you pay £13million for. One that all clubs around Europe were circulating around. The problem is not 100% him. It's 50-60% the players he's trying to get to believe in his system and play that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 From BBC:Chelsea goalkeeper Petr Cech has delivered a damning assessment of Chelsea's current failings, pinning the blame firmly on the players and absolving manager Andre Villas-Boas of responsibility. "The manager is not on the pitch, we are on the pitch and we are making mistakes," Cech said. "He cannot do anything about individual mistakes while he is standing by the bench."He's 100% right. Feel sorry for him.. Last season, it was his magnificent keeping that kept us afloat and in contention. It's the same this season, but worse in defence. 2 managers are not at fault for lackadaisical play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 He's 100% right.Feel sorry for him.. Last season, it was his magnificent keeping that kept us afloat and in contention. It's the same this season, but worse in defence. 2 managers are not at fault for lackadaisical play.Exactly there is only so much a manager can do. Its the fact we haven't freshened up the squad enough and this is mainly down to hiring and firing so many managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,546 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Exactly he needs to buy players who he feel will make a difference not whose he's been pushed towards buying!And agree he shouldnt feel under pressure sack wise and all..shouldnt have to feel that is he first few months after a poor run his job is in danger!Needs the time to make things work build a squad and get us back where we should be but was never going to happen over night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I find it interesting how Roman is known for not having patience with managers, but since QPR and Arsenal fans were the ones who wanted AVB to be sacked.Andre is going to stay, Roman isn't stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Exactly there is only so much a manager can do. Its the fact we haven't freshened up the squad enough and this is mainly down to hiring and firing so many managers.Exactly he needs to buy players who he feel will make a difference not whose he's been pushed towards buying!Yeah.And how's the manager supposed to change this squad, when he keeps getting fired? He may as well not bother. We argue this is 'Mouinho's squad' well that's because no manager's been given the time to make their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I don't think I'll be able to support Chelsea under Roman if AvB gets sacked anytime soon. We're turning into a joke with the way things have been handled in the managerial sense, sacking AvB would just about do it for me. I do remain hopeful that all the "pressure on AvB" theories in the media are nothing more than their usual club-in-crisis headlinesI understand your feelings ,,,I was here long before Roman arrived and I hope YOU will be here supporting Chelsea when both I and Roman have gone.KTF friend though I know it's hard just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krypt 241 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Yeah.And how's the manager supposed to change this squad, when he keeps getting fired? He may as well not bother. We argue this is 'Mouinho's squad' well that's because no manager's been given the time to make their own.Another thing is Jose inherited a much better squad. most nearly all players where in there prime of there careers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,546 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Yeah.And how's the manager supposed to change this squad, when he keeps getting fired? He may as well not bother. We argue this is 'Mouinho's squad' well that's because no manager's been given the time to make their own.Exactly!! And Jose left yonks back yet when the longest serving manager since then has had only 2 years...the squad isnt going to change drasticallySomeone else will come in and be the same issues,same squad..short amount of time to choose the players they want and round in circles we go.Yes we took a risk hiring him but that could be said when hiring any manager.They may have experince but that doesnt always pay off and show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Exactly!! And Jose left yonks back yet when the longest serving manager since then has had only 2 years...the squad isnt going to change drasticallySomeone else will come in and be the same issues,same squad..short amount of time to choose the players they want and round in circles we go.Yes we took a risk hiring him but that could be said when hiring any manager.They may have experince but that doesnt always pay off and showLol, if we hire an experienced one = he's probably too old, we need someone younger who'll create a legacy.someone younger = he's too inexperienced, we need someone like Hiddink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,546 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Lol, if we hire an experienced one = he's probably too old, we need someone younger who'll create a legacy.someone younger = he's too inexperienced, we need someone like Hiddink Exactly cant win lol.We hire someone old 'oo Im off to retire now goodbye' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 He shouldn't be under pressure. Certainly not with job security anyway! Firing every manager because they start badly is stupid. Especially one you pay £13million for. One that all clubs around Europe were circulating around. The problem is not 100% him. It's 50-60% the players he's trying to get to believe in his system and play that way.How he should not be under pressure?He is a 33 years old an unproven manager that never faced this kind of chalenge he is facing at Chelsea, we are poor in PL, poor in CL...and If he is a fraud?No my friend, of course he is under pressure, this is time for him to show what he is about. Until now it seems he is the shit one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Only the thought of sacking him makes me sick. Although some of his choices in substitutions and in the starting line up have been rubbish, and so have his tactics and strategies, it's not fair to put all the blame on him. Imo, the players are 70% responsible for our failures so far.But he is either overrated because the Portuguese is crap compared to England and the UCL, or he's a great manager but will adapt eventually. That we'll find out, so give the man time, be patient and show some support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francozola 2,040 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 The fact that AVB has come out and said that he's definitely not going to get the sack makes it probable that Roman mustve told him that he's going to get time. If not he'd look like an idiot by making such a convincing statement if Roman didn't back him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Two different managers but same players and same performances. That tells me that neither Carlo nor AVB is at fault. It's time the core of Chelsea gets the boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Only the thought of sacking him makes me sick. Although some of his choices in substitutions and in the starting line up have been rubbish, and so have his tactics and strategies, But other than that he's a really good manager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 I hate the fact that we keep changing managers its not right. There is no structure to this club at all, the players are bigger then the club and Kalou's shit sorry i just had to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Two different managers but same players and same performances. That tells me that neither Carlo nor AVB is at fault. It's time the core of Chelsea gets the boot.I wonder what would Henrique say if the Jesus Christ of football Hiddink was the third. Axe, sack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 No my friend, of course he is under pressure, this is time for him to show what he is about. Until now it seems he is the shit one.Fair enough. I agree especially with this last line that I've highlighted. Though we have a squad not worthy of a title-run anyway, I'm still confident he will fix this to keep us in the top4 and fighting in domestic cups, as well as a respectable run in the Champions League. His true test, for me, comes this summer in the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted November 24, 2011 Share Posted November 24, 2011 Two different managers but same players and same performances. That tells me that neither Carlo nor AVB is at fault. It's time the core of Chelsea gets the boot.The players have no drive at all Warnie, they have all been there done that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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