Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 How the FUCK is somebody saying they're over Mata leaving being disrespectful? Saying Mata is a judas wanker and was fucking shit, now that's being disrespectful. Saying that I'm over him is hardly being offensive. I suppose you go and revise your definition of the word because you clearly don't have a grasp of its connotations.Nobody has - or should - have forgotten what Mata did for this club. But I don't know if you've realised, he's left the club now. Players come and go. People get over them leaving. Deal with it. If you want to stay attached to Juan then I'm sure there's a spare seat or two at Old Trafford. lol calm down, saying you're over someone could also imply you've managed to erase/replace them from your memorywhich is what i think he inferred and hence said that we shouldn't forget mata's 2.5 years, we should get over him leaving, but not over him as a player who contributed to this clubjust a simple misunderstanding, nothing to get so defensive about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Just thought he has had seven managers in three years since arriving in England, even in the current climate that must be a record for a player in a three year period. In this country atleast.Andre Villas BoasRoberto Di MatteoRafeal BenitezJose MourinhoDavid MoyesRyan GiggsLouis Van GaalAny other player had that many managers in three years in this country? Obviously it's happened in Italy but here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couris 232 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 wow what a goal Vybz Kartel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 wow what a goalOscar would dream to have Mata's first touch and goal threat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Chels 2,502 Posted July 27, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted July 27, 2014 Oscar would dream to have Mata's first touch and goal threatAt least Oscar can score a penalty against Bayern! Hybrid Angel, Madmax, iseah100 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 At least Oscar can score a penalty against Bayern!At Least Mata can hit a corner which can lead to a goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 At Least Mata can hit a corner which can lead to a goalatleast Oscar was willing to fight for his place and turned out more loyal. We can go on all day. The Chels and BlueLion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 The two time running player of the season, at any club, should be an automatic selection unless there's somebody significantly better or injury or something like that. Binning him for Oscar was it? What was the point? As far as I'm aware he's been worse than what Mata was. Perhaps it's less apparent at Chelsea than at other clubs because there's a galaxy of other 'stars' to choose from, but a few years ago a 'luxury' player like Mata would have been accommodated for, even at Chelsea.I can't get around how lol the drive towards bits and pieces allrounders in football is. An attacking midfielder attacks. That's the whole point. You play somebody behind him who's got a high workrate and some defensive ability so that the AM can do what he's supposed to do. Why would anybody want a number 10 to waste his time learning to position himself defensively and improve his tackling; or waste his energy running up and down the pitch? Create chances, score some goals. That's all there is to it.You can add onto that the obsession with having 'ball playing' central defenders. Why on earth would a manager expect his centre back to carry the ball out of defence, ripp past half a dozen pressing opponents and then play a pinpoint long pass for the striker? Or more pertinently, how can somebody expect a centre back to be so talented in attacking skill and still be a solid defender?You didn't watch Mata under Jose. Painfully bad, he was so out of form. I know this becuase I know you don't watch football. Oscar wasn't amazing but he was better than Mata. Hindsight can be bad because Mata hit a bit of form when Oscar fell out of form, but at the time when Mata was sold, he was appualing. In the end he wanted to leave and the club got an amazing deal out of United. BlueLion. and Tomo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 At Least Mata can hit a corner which can lead to a goalAt least Torres can win THAT corner which lead to Mata's corner kick. Miki-Liki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vybz Kartel 1,613 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 atleast Oscar was willing to fight for his place and turned out more loyal. We can go on all day. At least Mata has won 3 trophies with us providing 3 assists in finals we won 11Drogba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 At least Mata has won 3 trophies with us providing 3 assists in finals we wonTorres made the pass before the assist. Uh oh.Plus Oscar finished 3rd, Mata finished 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 at least we still have Torres communicate, BlueLion. and Beepu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 At least Mata has won 3 trophies with us providing 3 assists in finals we wonAnd he did so much for us last season. Mourinho practically told him what he had to do to win his place back, and he couldn't do it. Oscar was magic until Christmas, as soon as Mata got arsey about being a deserved bench-warmer, Oscar became complacent and distracted by the World Cup, and his form dripped. But Mata hardly caused ructions at United. One or two good performances but nothing outstanding. As much as I enjoyed watching Juan, I think Cesc is an upgrade in terms of the role expected by José, who knows a bit more about football than I do. Muzchap and Rambo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilander 35 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 at least we still have Torres I would rather keep Mata than Torres!Mata failed in Mourinho second era because CFC is lack of A-grade (even B-grade) DMC.(Lampard - B-, Ramires - B-, Mikel - C+, Essien - E) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't really get why people (especially on Twitter) are saying that Mata will more likely than not fail at United. If van Gaal uses his 5-3-2 formation Mata, van Persie and Rooney are locks for the front-3 positions. communicate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't really get why people (especially on Twitter) are saying that Mata will more likely than not fail at United. If van Gaal uses his 5-3-2 formation Mata, van Persie and Rooney are locks for the front-3 positions.Yeah i agree. I thought Van Gaal would use 4-3-3 and he'd be screwed, but with 3-5-2 not only will he play a lot, he'll have the type of freedom he needs to shine.Herrera also being there helps him; with his quick, incisive passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 CourtoisAzpi-Cahill-JT-Luis Cesc-MaticWillian-Mata-HazardCostaWould have been amazing kellzfresh and Stats 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,892 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 CourtoisAzpi-Cahill-JT-LuisCesc-MaticWillian-Mata-HazardCostaWould have been amazing On paper it looks good.. but not really, we'd still have the same problems with Mata in a Mourinho system. The Chels, Barbara and Korea 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 On paper it looks good.. but not really, we'd still have the same problems with Mata in a Mourinho system.He wouldn't have to put a ton if defensive work in with Matic behind and Willian next to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 He wouldn't have to put a ton if defensive work in with Matic behind and Willian next to him.Fabregas and Mata in the same midfield would not suffice in terms of the defensive work Jose would want. Barbara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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