🇪🇸 Juan Mata

[Fulham Broadway 17,745]

I laugh every time I read the posts at redcafe. Go click on page 1 to 5 of the Mata thread, then click on page 75. Absolutely hilarious! As much as I wish they took points off City, it's still comforting to know that those glory hunting fuckwits are going through what we had to injure once upon a time.

lol - also try the thread Manchester Utd Fans turn on Alex Ferguson. Comedy gold.

[Jase 43,479]

Moyes has just actually said that he thought Mata played really well. I literally forgot he was on the pitch in the 2nd half.

Mata didn't play well but do you really expect managers to hang a player specifically out to dry in the public?

[Reddish-Blue 2,674]

Mata didn't play well but do you really expect managers to hang a player specifically out to dry in the public?

Depends if the player is mentally tough or not.

If the player is mentally tough, he will just brush it off and use it as motivation to prove the manager wrong in the following games...

If the player is mentally weak, he'll get pissed off at the managers comments and lose focus

[Special Juan 28,765]

He looks a broken man, and United are also broken.

[Stats 7,227]

So surprising that he can't do it at Man United eather. Seems like José knew what he was doing. I think the best option for Juan would be a return to Spain, Atletico maybe??

So far yes but you are writing him off to early. He only joined them in January who have been poor all season under a tactically inept manager who is unsuitable for them. He has age on his side and when they realise they need a new manager you might just see a different Mata. I think many people believed Mata would not been an automatic solution to United's problems. They need a serious revamp first which starts from defence to central midfield and then we can start taking them seriously as title contenders again.

[Styles 9,790]

He was really bad. He's even slower than I remembered.

[1chelsea 864]

Hope we sign mata back when is back in form and firing load of goal [emoji33][emoji41][emoji32][emoji57][emoji48]

[Madmax 9,219]

He looks fucking hideous in red. Like a garden gnome on some abandoned mansion's overgrown, overrun with weeds lawn.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

You can thank Moyes for that

[Tomo 21,751]

He has the look off a man who has just made the biggest mistake off his life.

[Spike 12,049]

The magic is dead. Tragic really. Players like Juan shouldn't have to go through this. But I shouldn't feel too bad, in the end it was his own mistakes that lead him to Man Utd.

[Special Juan 28,765]

He was really bad. He's even slower than I remembered.

He was never quick, quick in mind but not in body. To me it's his body language already just a few months in, like whenever a team mate misplaces a pass or he himself does it drains him, a bit like playing a video game with a player energy bar, that whenever you get hit it takes a great chunk off.

He's trying too hard, he's like Rooney just trying to do everything because others can't be arsed or are limited.

[MHL 47 378]

The magic is dead. Tragic really. Players like Juan shouldn't have to go through this. But I shouldn't feel too bad, in the end it was his own mistakes that lead him to Man Utd.

I think that saying Mata made mistakes is a little harsh on him. Maybe because many (including myself) were viewing his performances through blue tinted spectacles we didn't/couldn't/wouldn't see some of the weaknesses in his game.

Jose obviously did and perhaps attempted to change Juan, but couldn't. Those weaknesses are becoming clear, especially now since he's playing for a rival. Probably exaggerated by Moyes inability to tactically adapt a role for him. It smacks of a 'panic' buy by Man Utd to me, unless there is a 'bigger picture' that no one can see at the present time.

I genuinely feel for him as he served us well and seems like a thoroughly decent fella. He looks like a little boy lost right now. Last nights performance wasn't good, although again he wasn't helped by his teammates, who as soon as he got the ball ran away from him, expecting some sort of wonder pass each time.

[1chelsea 864]

Alex have been waiting to do this[emoji23]

[bushman 2,043]

I have never thought Mata could be so useless in recent games. One thing, I believe, the clueless one has not found a proper role for him yet. That 37m Jose got for him, looks more appealing nowadays, to me.

[Special Juan 28,765]

If there wasn't a set role for him he should never of been bought. I said at the time it was a purchase to appease the fans during what was back then, a difficult time.

All this points to bad decision making, same as the Fellaini purchase, it smacked of the old friends act at the same as geeting completely ripped off.

Manchester United have bought, but not wisely.

[Eligius 121]

Without blue tinted glasses, now you guys understand why David Silva was always a better player than Juan Mata.

[The only place to be 11,313]

He was always a panic buy for United, and in completely the wrong position. Rooney had that number 10 position sewn up. He drops into the same positions Mata likes to occupy and is far more direct which suits United's game.

Mata simply shouldn't have played last night. I said it before the match but if Jose was managing that team then you'd have seen three workhorses in midfield and Welbeck and Valencia on the wings looking to counter-attack with pace. Mata is a passenger in games like that, but what was really surprising was how poor his set-pieces were.

£37 million for him is almost as good a bit of business as Matic for £21 million. He needs a system built around him to get the best out of him, but he's not a good enough player to build a system around and compete for titles.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

So far yes but you are writing him off to early. He only joined them in January who have been poor all season under a tactically inept manager who is unsuitable for them. He has age on his side and when they realise they need a new manager you might just see a different Mata. I think many people believed Mata would not been an automatic solution to United's problems. They need a serious revamp first which starts from defence to central midfield and then we can start taking them seriously as title contenders again.

On a team that can't defend, Mata is a liability. What's worse is for the most part they are playing him on the right flank! Yesterday was a perfect example of how easy it is to play right through them, Mata gets done by the most elementary dribbles.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

He was always a panic buy for United, and in completely the wrong position. Rooney had that number 10 position sewn up. He drops into the same positions Mata likes to occupy and is far more direct which suits United's game.

Mata simply shouldn't have played last night. I said it before the match but if Jose was managing that team then you'd have seen three workhorses in midfield and Welbeck and Valencia on the wings looking to counter-attack with pace. Mata is a passenger in games like that, but what was really surprising was how poor his set-pieces were.

£37 million for him is almost as good a bit of business as Matic for £21 million. He needs a system built around him to get the best out of him, but he's not a good enough player to build a system around and compete for titles.

What's worse is they were rumoured to be in for Matic in the summer and ended up with Fellaini. Imagine that team with Matic providing steal and Mata the bullets for Rooney and Van P... They wouldn't be title contenders but certainly looking like top 4 and fewer moves from getting back to their best.