Spike 12,049 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Moyes is an idiot if he thinks that Mata will save him. Their squad suffers in the central midfield and heart of defence.Players that can't cut it at Man Utd anymore:Rafael da Silva: While I think he is a decent RB, I can't shake that feeling that his IQ test scores would be below 100.Nemanja Vidic: A shadow of himself. Broken by injuries.Patrice Evra: Can't defend, never has been able to.Tom Cleverly: Haha.Ryan Giggs: Too old and slow for the wings and can't defend well enough as a CM.Alexander Buttner: Like Evra he can attack well but can't defend.Ashley Young: Dive, dive, dive until you dive yourself to death.Rio Ferdiand: I think his body is breaking down and he just doesn't have the physicality to cut it anymore.Nani: Good at stepovers.Fabio da Silva: About as intelligent as his brother but with the added bonus of being less talented.Shinja Kagawa: Can only play one position (very well I might add) but he isn't even the best at the club in said position.They should deal with all these rubbish players before even thinking about Juan Mata. The only place to be, kellzfresh and xPetrCechx 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Only for rooney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,908 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Reus plays on the left wing we already have Eden over there so where will Reus play?Is he effective on the right wing as well?I thought he played on the right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 But if we could get another attacking midfielder in (one who might actually get a game for us), he could leave. Letting KDB go was a result of Mourinho not wanting to use him currently and him wanting to go. I'm not saying he will go but if Monaco or PSG joined the fun then who knows. The big issue could be the Champions League, although I don't think it's the biggest priority at the moment. The league and building for the future seem to be the most important focuses for our club, or maybe I'm wrong.It's risky, imo. To bring a player in mid-season and wait for him to adapt to the team and learn the system. The options are also very limited in Jan and obviously if we want a player of Mata's caliber then he probably wont be eligible for the CL. And even though we got Matic for a good price, deals in Jan are often at an inflated price. Honestly, I think Mata will be gone in the summer but I don't see any need to get rid of him now and weaken our team needlessly. IMO, he still has a role to play till the end of the season. The only place to be, Barbara and Pizy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 What happens when Oscar or Hazard get injured ? It would be a shit decision to make during January - we are one injury away from Mata becoming indispensable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The best bit of business that Moyes can do is to go for that Rooney Mata swap- the only way he can get Mourinho to sell Mata to them.He is gonna lose Rooney anyway since he is not keen on another United contract, might as well get Mata in the process. Make sense to us as well since we could use Rooney more than we could use Mata.As much as I love Mata's talent, I don't see him getting back into our first team any time soon. I hate to see Mata not go to the WC when players like Negredo are sure to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's risky, imo. To bring a player in mid-season and wait for him to adapt to the team and learn the system. The options are also very limited in Jan and obviously if we want a player of Mata's caliber then he probably wont be eligible for the CL. And even though we got Matic for a good price, deals in Jan are often at an inflated price. Honestly, I think Mata will be gone in the summer but I don't see any need to get rid of him now and weaken our team needlessly. IMO, he still has a role to play till the end of the season. The bolded bit is a good reason to sell Mata now. It's unlikely he'll increase in value post-World Cup and United are desperate.I agree that losing him weakens us, but I'm also not that sure if keeping him strengthens us. It's a tricky one, but I wouldn't be certain either way right now.What happens when Oscar or Hazard get injured ? If Oscar gets injured I'd imagine Hazard would move into the middle and Schurrle would go on the left.If Hazard gets injured, Schurrle starts.I think these are the cases whether we have Mata or not. He'd get more games if we had injuries but I'd expect them to be on the right. CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The best bit of business that Moyes can do is to go for that Rooney Mata swap- the only way he can get Mourinho to sell Mata to them.He is gonna lose Rooney anyway since he is not keen on another United contract, might as well get Mata in the process. Make sense to us as well since we could use Rooney more than we could use Mata.As much as I love Mata's talent, I don't see him getting back into our first team any time soon. I hate to see Mata not go to the WC when players like Negredo are sure to go.Rooney is shittier and fatter version of Mata which can finish - only swap for Mata I would welcome is Cavani for Mata not some fat scouse injured cunt. Negredo is one of the few Spanish strikers who deserve to go the WC Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Whether Jose decides to sell Mata not one us know now.There are plenty of CL games to be played & Mata will play in those. Perhaps, not as a starter but he can come on around, later.Jose is too shrewed to sell to Manures. They are gone fishing & let them enjoy their trip. zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Rooney is shittier and fatter version of Mata which can finish - only swap for Mata I would welcome is Cavani for Mata not some fat scouse injured cunt. Negredo is one of the few Spanish strikers who deserve to go the WC Seriously?Mata and Rooney ate completely different players and in Mourinho's system, Rooney is a sure starter while Mata, clearly, is not.I'd also welcome Cavani but I'm just being realistic,mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I thought he played on the right?no. he plays on the left (alongside schmelzer). and also for Germany he plays on the left. and he did the same for Gladbach too.Rooney will NOT MOVE IN EXCHANGE for Matahttp://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jan/21/wayne-rooney-sale-juan-mata-chelsea-manchester-united?CMP=twt_gu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las7 951 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Seriously?Mata and Rooney ate completely different players and in Mourinho's system, Rooney is a sure starter while Mata, clearly, is not.I'd also welcome Cavani but I'm just being realistic,mateRooney ate is correct, he ate a lot of pies and that's why he is constantly injured every season. Rooney's best position is behind the striker he is 28 year old fat cunt who smokes and is unprofessional throwing his toys out when he was benched by SAF. Or when he was open to a move to their arch rivals only to get a massive pay rise. Just because Jose rates him as a striker doesn't make him any less of a fat cunt who is injured a lot and is unprofessional. Gilvorak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Rooney is shittier and fatter version of Mata which can finish - only swap for Mata I would welcome is Cavani for Mata not some fat scouse injured cunt. Negredo is one of the few Spanish strikers who deserve to go the WC I'd compare them as follows (out of 5):Rooney (3) - Creativity - Mata (4)Rooney (4) - Linkup Play - Mata (4)Rooney (5) - Finishing - Mata (4)Rooney (5) - Work Rate - Mata (3)Rooney (4) - Tackling - Mata (2)Rooney (4) - Strength - Mata (2)Rooney (3) - Pace - Mata (2)Something like that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Discuss all you want but 37 million for a bench warmer is really a lot of money. If it's true then mourinho and the club will have a tough decision to make. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Rooney ate is correct, he ate a lot of pies and that's why he is constantly injured every season. Rooney's best position is behind the striker he is 28 year old fat cunt who smokes and is unprofessional throwing his toys out when he was benched by SAF. Or when he was open to a move to their arch rivals only to get a massive pay rise. Just because Jose rates him as a striker doesn't make him any less of a fat cunt who is injured a lot and is unprofessional. His best position is as a striker IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Rooney ate is correct, he ate a lot of pies and that's why he is constantly injured every season. Rooney's best position is behind the striker he is 28 year old fat cunt who smokes and is unprofessional throwing his toys out when he was benched by SAF. Or when he was open to a move to their arch rivals only to get a massive pay rise. Just because Jose rates him as a striker doesn't make him any less of a fat cunt who is injured a lot and is unprofessional. Rooney's best was when he was playing as the out and out striker and not when he is paying in the hole. Remember last season when he was forced to play in behind v.Pussie and wasn't exactly effective as when he was playing as the striker.And he is the sort of player that puts in a lot of effort and his workrate is laudable. I don't care if he is 500 pounds and eating pies or smoking pot or doing drugs or fucking Spanish hookers, if he can put in the sort of workrate that he is displaying at United, I'd take him anyday.P.s It's not like I am some sort of Rooney fan boy or anything but he is,in many eyes, one of the best players in the past decade and still going strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why would United want to buy Mata if they don't even play the world class no 10 they have available in Kagawa ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 if he's sold it would be the most stupid of all things stupid we've done lately.. almost as disastrous as buying Torres or as evil as sacking Ancelotti ... its not like we're crowded with talent at the #10 position, its just him and Oscar ffs (I know wizard can play there, but they are mainly inverted wingers) .. be patient Jose, please just be patient zolayes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 It's still amazing how quickly people turned on him and change their opinion from last season. it was so quick, it left the speed of sound for dead and had the speed of light trailing by a couple of thousand miles per second.It's the Mourinho effect. He can't do anything wrong, he's da gawd. lionsden and Azpinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 The bolded bit is a good reason to sell Mata now. It's unlikely he'll increase in value post-World Cup and United are desperate.I agree that losing him weakens us, but I'm also not that sure if keeping him strengthens us. It's a tricky one, but I wouldn't be certain either way right now.Same here, really. I would be tempted if PSG are offering the reported 37m, but the fact that it is united is another point against accepting this. The only place to be and zolayes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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