Romelu Lukaku

[laura90 556]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

Thankfully we don’t really need him to do anything outside of his strengths. Put away the chances we create, stretch defenses by running in behind, hold the ball up and bring others into play like he did well at Inter. Simple as that. 

Unlike his time at United or Everton we have loads of players who can handle the creativity and buildup. Tuchel won’t be asking him to be Messi or Harry Kane or one of these strikers who drops deep and becomes a playmaker spraying the ball around.

The club and TT clearly wanted a classic #9 and that’s what Rom is. Let’s hope it pays off.

Lukaku wasn't Tuchel's first choice. He openly said after Tottenham game that some players didn't want to come. If the player he wanted didn't want to come does that make Lukaku his first choice? Lukaku was his best choice for this season. To compete. That's why he is here. But not his first choice.

I also wanted Haaland at the early stage, but it became clear to me early on that it was not happening. My own preference was to skip on the striker this year and to get the other targets since we had really good team and good coach and we needed just slightly improvement from our attacking players to grab that fourth spot where our only competition is Liecester. And try again the next year.

We really now have only Broja and Soonsup Bell to look up to and hope they miraculously develop into great strikers very soon. In my opinion. 

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by laura90

[Clockwork 1,794]

7 hours ago, Stats said:

So please answer what I stated above. He already has proven himself in the EPL. What do you have to say about his goalscoring record in the Premier League?

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

[Vincent 403]

37 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

That's where my doubt lays too, he needs space, and that's something you barely get at as Chelsea striker.

[Stats 7,142]

40 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

WBA are a relegation competing team, who most times don't even have the ball. That is a phenomenal achievement. Also when he plays for Belgium, they are up against teams that sit deep. He scores for Belgium also. The thing is against Italy, he missed chances but he was a danger, just could not convert. The Italian league is notorious for teams playing defensive. He easily thrived in that league. I mean last season, do you really think Lukaku would not have scored 20 goals plus for us with all the chances we created last season?

[Pizy 18,877]

Watching highlights of his time at Man United and he is still very much effective in the box surrounded by defenders. He’s not just a Jamie Vardy type who almost requires open space to sprint into. He’s very strong in the air and at moving defenders with muscle.

If we know we’re going to play an extremely deep defense those are hopefully the matches where Ziyech starts to whip the ball in over and over for Rom and Havertz.

[OneMoSalah 8,885]

1 hour ago, Clockwork said:

Lukaku is a runner, give him space to run into and on the counter he is pretty good. That is his game it fits an Everton or WBA. Or a reactive manager. 
 

But at Chelsea, opposition gives us much more respect they play deeper and the spaces get tighter. He would have to play to his weaknesses, where has to make combo passes and make intelligent runs with bodies everywhere. 
 

Anyway I hope I am wrong. I will root for him to succeed.

And teams in Italy dont play like that against Inter Milan? Or other national teams against Belgium? No? 

I mean we created a lot of chances under Tuchel IIRC just didn’t convert them so I think he will be fine. Plus you’ve got him occupying central defenders which also means players like Havertz or Werner don’t have to.

Edited August 8, 2021 by OneMoSalah

[milka 3,390]

Psg will anounce Messi    earlier than Chelsea will anounce  Lukaku .

[ZAPHOD2319 4,804]

24 minutes ago, milka said:

Psg will anounce Messi    earlier than Chelsea will anounce  Lukaku .

This is true, we always take forever announcing a player. All the wheels are in motion and Inter are already spending the money.

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

19 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

This is true, we always take forever announcing a player. All the wheels are in motion and Inter are already spending the money.

Is big rom even in England yet? 

[Clockwork 1,794]

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

And teams in Italy dont play like that against Inter Milan? Or other national teams against Belgium? No? 

I mean we created a lot of chances under Tuchel IIRC just didn’t convert them so I think he will be fine. Plus you’ve got him occupying central defenders which also means players like Havertz or Werner don’t have to.

No it’s not the same. Anyway I feel like I have made my point over the years why we shouldn’t sign Lukaku. His signing is inevitable, and he is in his prime so it won’t take long to find out his worth. 
 

we don’t really create enough big chances though, we are pretty much middle of the road in that aspect. Chances created data is very misleading, it fails to consider the quality of it.

in Carlo second season at Chelsea, a slumping Malouda created most chances in the EPL. No one would have believed it from watching  though.

Edited August 8, 2021 by Clockwork

[ZAPHOD2319 4,804]

44 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Is big rom even in England yet? 

From what I see on twitter he is having his medical on Monday in Belgium. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

41 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

No it’s not the same. Anyway I feel like I have made my point over the years why we shouldn’t sign Lukaku. His signing is inevitable, and he is in his prime so it won’t take long to find out his worth. 
 

we don’t really create enough big chances though, we are pretty much middle of the road in that aspect. Chances created data is very misleading, it fails to consider the quality of it.

in Carlo second season at Chelsea, a slumping Malouda created most chances in the EPL. No one would have believed it from watching  though.

I dont go off data for chances created i go of my eyes, I watched us create loads with no end product hopefully big rom gives us that end product 

[Blue Armour 4,436]

@Tomo since Lukaku is more or less guaranteed to start every game, what do you forsee happening? 

Do you think Tuchel might revert to a back 4 to accommodate an extra attacker?

If not, who from Havertz-Mount-Werner do you see dropping to the bench?

[Tomo 21,751]

2 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

@Tomo since Lukaku is more or less guaranteed to start every game, what do you forsee happening? 

Do you think Tuchel might revert to a back 4 to accommodate an extra attacker?

If not, who from Havertz-Mount-Werner do you see dropping to the bench?

I'm hoping he will rotate the four depending on tactics/opponents.

[Superblue 6,372]

Lukaku is almost certainly coming in to play the majority of games, but he can't play all the time. 

Assuming Tammy leaves we're looking at 6 players in attack - Lukaku, Werner, Havertz, Mount, Pulisic and Ziyech (I think Tuchel will look at CHO more as an offensive minded wing back). The first 5 all played for their countries this summer and Ziyech plays in the AFCON mid season. We have a packed schedule with the World Club Cup, we could easily play 55-60 games throughout the season. There will be rotation and I think all 6 will have plenty of gametime.

The best part too is the versatility of the other 5 players will give Tuchel multiple options throughout the season to set up differently. Tuchel can play 3-4-3 and 3-5-2 and even in games where we're likely to be dominant or we're chasing a goal he could just play one midfielder such as Jorginho or Kante and then play two of Mount, Ziyech or Havertz as two number 8's alongside 2 strikers.

I wasn't particularly in favour of Lukaku, but having had time to think about it, I do think his inclusion within our squad makes us look much stronger.