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Well, its just that. We think he isnt ready. But .... We never play him: not two years ago, not now. Only in preseason and he scored enough then.

Its manager anxiety avoidance: better go with experience/expensive strikers. Understandable, emotionally comfortable, but factually delusional.

Yeah. I wouldn't put him on loan, but if he isn't in Jose' immediate plans i would rather see him on loan banging in goals, than sitting on our bench.

If it was up to me, he would be the number 2 and get a lot of game time, but it seems Jose will have Eto and Torres above him in the pecking order, so his game time would be limited.

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It's not the parts I like, It's the reality. Would I play him over Ba and Torres? Sure, but I'm not the coach. It's better if he get's loaned out and gets consistent playing time than getting minutes here and there over here

and how does that help him. he got 17 goals in PL last season. how many did torres and ba get for chelsea. compare it with their playing time.

the same thing will happen this year. even if he wins the golden fucking boot, people are still going to say, "HE IS JUST 21, VERY RAW, NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD OUR LINE, INEXPERIENCE, it was just wba" lukaku would be exactly where he was at the start of this season, no matter how much he plays, or how good he plays for them.

plus tell me the lad's mentality right now. he was our best strikr in PRE-season. in the 2 sub appearance he made, he made more impact than both our strikers combine. 1 penalty miss later, he is shipped out on loan. the way he cried after the penalty, u could see what chelsea meant to him... all he had needed was 1 JUST 1 START to prove his worth, but he dint even get that.

very poor decision.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

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If it was confirmed before pre-season that Lukaku would go out on loan yeah I would be annoyed but to do it after confirming he is staying and him performing in pre-season that is a horrible way to treat him. Yes he has things to improve on but so does Torres, Ba and Etoo will probably have some flaws. But now we let out most promising striker go out on loan. Same old, same old, really. I trusted Mourinho that he would give him time but obviously not. Can't believe this. Anyway if your move is confirmed, good luck Lukaku, do your thing and score goals and prove why we made another mistake.

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and how does that help him. he got 17 goals in PL last season. how many did torres and ba get for chelsea. compare it with their playing time.

the same thing will happen this year. even if he wins the golden fucking boot, people are still going to say, "HE IS JUST 21, VERY RAW, NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD OUR LINE, INEXPERIENCE, it was just wba" lukaku would be exactly where he was at the start of this season, no matter how much he plays, or how good he plays for them.

plus tell me the lad's mentality right now. he was our best strikr in PRE-season. in the 2 sub appearance he made, he made more impact than both our strikers combine. 1 penalty miss later, he is shipped out on loan. the way he cried after the penalty, u could see what chelsea meant to him... all he had needed was 1 JUST 1 START to prove his worth, but he dint even get that.

very poor decision.

You didn't read my post

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Scoring goals in one season does not prove you are a capable #1 striker. He is a very good goal finisher, but to be a striker for a top team like Chelsea, Lukaku has to be able to do more. Demba Ba scored 15 goals last year and 16 goals the year before and he's not good enough to start for Chelsea. (And you need to stop bringing up the hattrick against ManU as a way of proving his quality. It was the last day of the season and neither team had anything to play for and ManU had a pathetic back 4. No, Rafel, no Vidic, no Ferdinand, and no Evra. You can't take that as a way of him performing against top teams.) The bottom line is that our manager doesn't think he's ready!!!

Yeah, he sure didn't score for Chelsea in pre-season. The only way you'll know he's ready is to goddamn play him. If that's not happening, I'm very glad he's getting another loan.

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and how does that help him. he got 17 goals in PL last season. how many did torres and ba get for chelsea. compare it with their playing time.

the same thing will happen this year. even if he wins the golden fucking boot, people are still going to say, "HE IS JUST 21, VERY RAW, NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO LEAD OUR LINE, INEXPERIENCE, it was just wba" lukaku would be exactly where he was at the start of this season, no matter how much he plays, or how good he plays for them.

plus tell me the lad's mentality right now. he was our best strikr in PRE-season. in the 2 sub appearance he made, he made more impact than both our strikers combine. 1 penalty miss later, he is shipped out on loan. the way he cried after the penalty, u could see what chelsea meant to him... all he had needed was 1 JUST 1 START to prove his worth, but he dint even get that.

very poor decision.

This. The fact that we did not reward him with one fucking start and that annoys me after the season he had. It is like we already have decided he is not good enough.

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Scoring goals in one season does not prove you are a capable #1 striker. He is a very good goal finisher, but to be a striker for a top team like Chelsea, Lukaku has to be able to do more. Demba Ba scored 15 goals last year and 16 goals the year before and he's not good enough to start for Chelsea. (And you need to stop bringing up the hattrick against ManU as a way of proving his quality. It was the last day of the season and neither team had anything to play for and ManU had a pathetic back 4. No, Rafel, no Vidic, no Ferdinand, and no Evra. You can't take that as a way of him performing against top teams.) The bottom line is that our manager doesn't think he's ready!!!

and how does he prove he is good enough to be a chelsea striker when inspite of scoring 17 goals, inspite of being our best striker in pre-season by a mile, he cant get a start. i dont give a shit what back 4 united played. united played a dead rubber against us too, but we barely won the match. we barely scrapped thru. why could not our striker score a hat-trick in a match that meant nothing to united but was one of our most important matches in the season.

also, i seriously dont think it has anything to do with jose. we wanted 3mil for ba loan, would probably have been getting more than that for lukaku (everton offered 4, i think) and we let him go.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

As good a coach he is, Mourinho is not know for working with young players. Wherever he starts, he demands a couple of big signings and plays practically with experienced players only. It was only his comments before the start of the season that made me think this time it would be different...

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

u actually think this is mou's doing? i can bet everythin i have that this is the board's decision. 3mil for BA loan was what we were asking, everton had offered 4mil for lukaku and we let him go for that.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

Of course you know, Ow superior one :-)

Btw: is he loaned now or not? Or is the man management of Mourinho actually pointing in the direction of Lukaku staying? I wonder. Knowing that would make you one of those TC specialists, right?

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As good a coach he is, Mourinho is not know for working with young players. Wherever he starts, he demands a couple of big signings and plays practically with experienced players only. It was only his comments before the start of the season that made me think this time it would be different...

that's not even my point actually. The man can make mistake like any other. It's the presumption that we know better that annoys me.

I think when he sees potential - real potential - and readiness to act on that potential he works just fine.

Name me 5 players that were young under him, that he handled badly and that nowadays are world class or just very good because for him to be bad as many people say youngsters should flourish under others immediately after they left him.

In case you can't name those 5, I can name you a few players that people were on him for not dealing well, that were good, talented and whatever, and he let them go and nothing happened with them. And that's at RM only, but I could force my memory to go way back to Inter too.

No one says he's right in those case, do they? Still time proved that the players weren't everything people expected them to be. The one reason that makes Mourinho sign so many guys is because of his clinical eye for real talent, not could be. Why do you think he made Eden his untouchable man even before they had one training session?

All that said, it doesn't mean he doesn't think Lukaku is the real deal, it just means he's not ready for what Mourinho needs now. I kept saying that before the Super Cup - that he wasn't ready to handle pressure. Well, we saw how well that worked...

I could name a few he handled okay and are now very good.

u actually think this is mou's doing? i can bet everythin i have that this is the board's decision. 3mil for BA loan was what we were asking, everton had offered 4mil for lukaku and we let him go for that.

you do have a valid point. One that had crossed my mind today many times amidst the many rumors. But I was aiming on people who think they know better than one of the most successful managers in the world.

I think he's just betting ON Lukaku rather than against him. How would the boy feel - in the WC year - to be benched 90% of the matches, actually not even making the bench in many of them? I guess that frustration would be bigger than the frustration of Chelsea letting go of him for the second year in a row.

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wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better :rolleyes: not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

No one is saying we know better than fucking Jose.

Some of us are pissed off because the kid was deceived. No one should promise to play you & then tell you I changed my mind.

If those reports were true, then Jose has no played fair with him.

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