Romelu Lukaku

[Barbara 15,149]

As good a coach he is, Mourinho is not know for working with young players. Wherever he starts, he demands a couple of big signings and plays practically with experienced players only. It was only his comments before the start of the season that made me think this time it would be different...

that's not even my point actually. The man can make mistake like any other. It's the presumption that we know better that annoys me.

I think when he sees potential - real potential - and readiness to act on that potential he works just fine.

Name me 5 players that were young under him, that he handled badly and that nowadays are world class or just very good because for him to be bad as many people say youngsters should flourish under others immediately after they left him.

In case you can't name those 5, I can name you a few players that people were on him for not dealing well, that were good, talented and whatever, and he let them go and nothing happened with them. And that's at RM only, but I could force my memory to go way back to Inter too.

No one says he's right in those case, do they? Still time proved that the players weren't everything people expected them to be. The one reason that makes Mourinho sign so many guys is because of his clinical eye for real talent, not could be. Why do you think he made Eden his untouchable man even before they had one training session?

All that said, it doesn't mean he doesn't think Lukaku is the real deal, it just means he's not ready for what Mourinho needs now. I kept saying that before the Super Cup - that he wasn't ready to handle pressure. Well, we saw how well that worked...

I could name a few he handled okay and are now very good.

u actually think this is mou's doing? i can bet everythin i have that this is the board's decision. 3mil for BA loan was what we were asking, everton had offered 4mil for lukaku and we let him go for that.

you do have a valid point. One that had crossed my mind today many times amidst the many rumors. But I was aiming on people who think they know better than one of the most successful managers in the world.

I think he's just betting ON Lukaku rather than against him. How would the boy feel - in the WC year - to be benched 90% of the matches, actually not even making the bench in many of them? I guess that frustration would be bigger than the frustration of Chelsea letting go of him for the second year in a row.

[bushman 2,043]

wow... it seems people here knows better about player management than Mourinho who's working on this for a couple of decades and who has just recently done amazingly with Varane - who was younger than Lukaku is right now btw

I guess the difference between their bank accounts proves who knows better not to mention the successful work in clubs in different leagues and the many titles, but let's hear to TC specialists instead.

not to say he's the one that has been with the guy day in and out since the players came back from vacation.

It'd be amusing, if it wasn't ridiculous

No one is saying we know better than fucking Jose.

Some of us are pissed off because the kid was deceived. No one should promise to play you & then tell you I changed my mind.

If those reports were true, then Jose has no played fair with him.

[Stingray 9,441]

No one is saying we know better than fucking Jose.

Some of us are pissed off because the kid was deceived. No one should promise to play you & then tell you I changed my mind.

If those reports were true, then Jose has no played fair with him.

This is exactly what I meant.

We are all one! Guess what Lukaku will say next year when he hears that line again.

Thanks Bushman.

[didierforever 7,349]

atleast its everton and not wba... but he ll have to fight for a place against jelavic, anchiebe and kone. hope he shows his class... good luck lad...

[bushman 2,043]

Where are those fucking logos, In Jose we trust ?

[bushman 2,043]

This is exactly what I meant.

We are all one! Guess what Lukaku will say next year when he hears that line again.

Thanks Bushman.

I know what he should say. Go fuck yourself Jose !

[Stats 6,980]

He still will score more goals than our strikers I am sure do your thing. Funny thing is he has competition at Everton as well who only play with 1 striker. Hope he has another brilliant season and tries to earn his place in the Belgian team, no matter how hard it will be. Shame our next game is them as he will be ineligible but sure he will be a big player for them this season.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Name me 5 players that were young under him, that he handled badly and that nowadays are world class or just very good because for him to be bad as many people say youngsters should flourish under others immediately after they left him.

Well, you could spin that around and say they wasted so much valuable development time in those crucial years by not playing, they never reached their true potential. ;-)

[Goemaere 131]

lukaku to score more goals than demba and Torres togheter. Written in the stars.

[didierforever 7,349]

Where are those fucking logos, In Jose we trust ?

u think this is jose? how much do u wanna bet that lukaku's loan would cost more than ba's 3mil loan price.

i personally can bet everything i have that this will be the case. this deal has the stink of board all over it.

[Barbara 15,149]

No one is saying we know better than fucking Jose.

Some of us are pissed off because the kid was deceived. No one should promise to play you & then tell you I changed my mind.

If those reports were true, then Jose has no played fair with him.

no, love, you are not saying that...

I guess your point is fair - whereas saying Mourinho is being stupid or coward isn't - but who knows what sort of conversation they had? Who knows if this wasn't agreed with Romelu? After all that happened, things changed, and maybe someone told him: the prospects for you are this X amount of matches because of whatever reason.

What if he agreed is better to leave? A boy his age DREAMS of playing the WC - especially one in Brazil, especially on his age. What if he pondered and thought maybe it was better to have chances to improve and play and go to the WC and actually play matches, than just warm our bench?

I DOUBT he was promised to be our #1 striker - when we were very loud and clear we wanted to sign a striker - or even that he would be started ahead of Torres because the same sort of statement Mourinho and Lukaku said, so did Mourinho and Torres... Both players said the manager said he was counting on them and if they worked hard they would have their chances...

We don't know what happened, we aren't there, so that's why I think it makes no sense for us to assume we know best.

I trust Mourinho - not blindly, I've criticized many of his decisions later (allowing a kid who thinks he knows best in a final penalty shootout being one of them). That's not one of them, if it was his decision in the first place.

But let's agree we disagree.

It bothers me when people think they know everything - but I don't know everything either. So we have a right to think whatever we want. So I (and others) agree with him being loaned, you (and others) disagree and we disagree between ourselves.

[Goemaere 131]

BTW, I only follow Chelsea in England but does someone know who are the main competitors for the XI for romelu? (@Everton)

[James W Clark 28]

BTW, I only follow Chelsea in England but does someone know who are the main competitors for the XI for romelu? (@Everton)

No one any good. He should be 1st choice there.

He is young and this is a good move. Eto is going to get the majority of games this year,

[Barbara 15,149]

Well, you could spin that around and say they wasted so much valuable development time in those crucial years by not playing, they never reached their true potential. ;-)

isn't exactly that what Mourinho is offering to Lukaku though? To go to a place where he can actually play instead of warming our bench and stop his progress?

I'm not sure what's the angle here. If he's benched, Mou is wrong, if he's sent off somewhere so he can play, Mou's wrong, if Mou thinks he's not ready to be our #1 or #2 striker (doesn't matter if for mental or technical reasons) Mou is wrong..

The only way Mou would be right is if he played Romelu ahead of Torres - and maybe even Eto'o. It comes down to preferences then. Each of us will have a different preference. I prefer Eto'o, others prefer Lukaku, others Torres. The same applies to other positions...

I guess he did little from the small time he was given and risking him to continue to have as less time would frustrating for him in a WC year... Mourinho won't start him in the middle of fierce competition if he's not ready. And I doubt he was promised that. He was probably promised chances. The chances the club or Mourinho have to give to him now are playing scarcely... is it good for him? Is it enough for him? I don't know. Maybe he'd rather stay. Maybe he'd rather go.

Crying over spilled milk is pointless anyway. He's gone, I hope he has a great season, develops further. There will be more pressure on Everton than on WBA, there will be more quality as well. I hope it does him well.

If Mourinho made a mistake, time will tell. I just think we'll hardly lose any trophies because of this and I don't think Lukaku would benefit a lot being benched over and over. his progress would stagnate. That's me though, anyone can disagree

[drog.ba 239]

BTW, I only follow Chelsea in England but does someone know who are the main competitors for the XI for romelu? (@Everton)

Kone and Jelavic, both shit. Lukaku should start

[Tomo 21,681]

Has anyone thought that maybe the club/Jose weren't actually planning on loaning out Lukaku, but then a top 7 club managed by a gaffer who has a good track record with youth players, came in then the Jose thought this would be too good a chance for Lukaku to miss on in his long term development? Maybe this is why the club held firm when WBA came in with a late hyjack insisting he is still going Everton.

If he was sent to Vittesse or in the Championship i would understand the anger, but i think this is a fantastic chance for Romelu.

All this does for me is make me rue not signing Cavani even more.

[JDY 1,290]

I'm really in two minds about this loan. Firstly, I wanted Romelu to go on loan at the start of the summer, and especially to a club that would play to his weaknesses so he can improve as a player. This has happened with him signing for Martinez's Everton now, but it's the way it's happened that leaves a sour taste.

Why have we waited until the final day to ship him out on loan? After a whole summer of him being genuinely excited about the season ahead with us, interviews about him being promised chances, I just find it odd that we have done a complete u-turn.

I'm happy that he's going out on loan, but the way it's happened is extremely harsh on Romelu.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

isn't exactly that what Mourinho is offering to Lukaku though? To go to a place where he can actually play instead of warming our bench and stop his progress?

I'm not sure what's the angle here. If he's benched, Mou is wrong, if he's sent off somewhere so he can play, Mou's wrong,

I didn't say the loan is a mistake, in fact I applaud it. It's just disgustingly unfair to me that a player who had an amazing season is still benched for Torres, who had another shitty one, was nothing but a disappointment and is only still there because no one else wants to buy him. The least they could have done is give him one freaking start, after the pre-season he had and quotes like "he's going to be an important player for us this season. He won't be loaned out."

He was misled. Simple as that. Chelsea should feel lucky the boy loves this club so much, he's been f*cked twice now. Normally that's byebye.