Popular Post! Rapkun 668 Posted June 11, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 11, 2017 I see many people use the Lukaku is a chelsea fan as an argument to defend him. How is that valid? You don't need to be a fan of the club you play for to give your all. You only need to be a professional or have a will to win. Him being a fan didn't stop him from leaving and criticizing the club for the way he was treated. What guarantees do we have that he's going to fight for the shirt more than say Azpilicueta, an Osasuna fan. Peace., Clockwork, Supermonkey92 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Rapkun said: I see many people use the Lukaku is a chelsea fan as an argument to defend him. How is that valid? You don't need to be a fan of the club you play for to give your all. You only need to be a professional or have a will to win. Him being a fan didn't stop him from leaving and criticizing the club for the way he was treated. What guarantees do we have that he's going to fight for the shirt more than say Azpilicueta, an Osasuna fan. I like having guys who want to be at the club and in the dressing room. Too often in the modern game you get players who don't have any connection with the club who say sh_t like "I want to leave and go back to Atleti" We need players who want to be at the club, its great for the fans and also for the image of the club... No real football related pluses unless you buy the whole "I will die on the pitch for the club I love" argument. Â Bernard N Y Burgesson and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: I like having guys who want to be at the club and in the dressing room. Too often in the modern game you get players who don't have any connection with the club who say sh_t like "I want to leave and go back to Atleti" We need players who want to be at the club, its great for the fans and also for the image of the club... No real football related pluses unless you buy the whole "I will die on the pitch for the club I love" argument. Â Or "Chelsea buy a striker every season and I wanted to be guaranteed a starting spot despite proving nothing". We all like players who are passionate but being a fan is irrelevant IMO. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rapkun said: Or "Chelsea buy a striker every season and I wanted to be guaranteed a starting spot despite proving nothing". We all like players who are passionate but being a fan is irrelevant IMO. ??? I fail to see how your quote has any relevance. Young striker wanted to play and didn't see many opportunities at the club, what's the big deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: ??? I fail to see how your quote has any relevance. Young striker wanted to play and didn't see many opportunities at the club, what's the big deal? Â Young striker wanted a free pass at his beloved club. and had to criticize that club publicly after leaving. Still nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rapkun said: Â Young striker wanted a free pass at his beloved club. and had to criticize that club publicly after leaving. Still nothing? Oh so you're still a little butt hurt over that are you? Trust me you'll get over it when he's banging them in regularly Johnnyeye, The Skipper and Stats 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 14 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Oh so you're still a little butt hurt over that are you? Trust me you'll get over it when he's banging them in regularly  Tries to prove a point>butthurt... Okay. My mistake for engaging in a debate with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rapkun said: Â Tries to prove a point>butthurt... Okay. My mistake for engaging in a debate with you. Lets be real here you had no point. You mentioned that he wanted a free pass for the club in relation to how much he loves the club.... the two aren't even closely related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 All things considered, he is without any doubt improvement on Costa. And yes, Costa is a "crazy" warrior, and sometimes that will be missed. But he is also crazy in all kind of other things, in a bad way. Lukaku is not, he is way more normal and reliable, and that's a big plus. From only footballing aspect - better in the air, scores more goals, somewhat better technician and link up play, faster. And a lot younger, he will be like a lion when he comes, he will want to prove himself to everyone. Can't complain, wish him best of luck. mashimaru161 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy 439 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Rapkun said: Â Young striker wanted a free pass at his beloved club. and had to criticize that club publicly after leaving. Still nothing? I agree with this. It's one thing to want him at the club for his goals and another to say he is a Chelsea fan. This guy left with the first plane as soon as he had to fight for his place. Supermonkey92 and King11Didier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El P. 1,354 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Georgy said: I agree with this. It's one thing to want him at the club for his goals and another to say he is a Chelsea fan. This guy left with the first plane as soon as he had to fight for his place. This is a bit harsh in my opinion. Not just by you, I'm talking in general about our fans who criticize him about this. Lukaku was here when he was what, 20-21? And in our team we had Torres, Demba Ba and after that we even got Eto'o. I think fella knew odds were really against him - Eto'o and Torres, maybe not in their prime, but still big name attackers, and good Demba Ba. That's THREE guys in front of you, three proven guys. So he wouldn't be second, not even third choice - he would be FOURTH choice, for one position. And his manager was Jose Mourinho, the most pragmatic guy ever. I clearly remember him saying, after going to Everton - "What is the club doing? It's like they are just buying strikers with no true plan what to do with them." (or something like this) Don't know, Lukaku isn't maybe the best of characters, I am aware of his deficiencies, but for this one - I'm not blaming him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 I cant remember the source, but apparently Lukaku ran the least out of all prem strikers last season and was very low for interceptions too. I think Costa is very high for interceptions. Hopefully he just needs a kick up the arse though the Everton boss strikes me as someone who would demand that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 6 hours ago, Rapkun said:  Young striker wanted a free pass at his beloved club. and had to criticize that club publicly after leaving. Still nothing? i bet you that is the same thing solanke will do to us. as a matter of fact i would rub it right in so you will see the mistake you committed. At least if chelsea had inserted a buy back clause he would have had the idea that we do care but no like we did to others(de bruyne, solanke, ryan bertrand) go f**k yourself is what we told them.I love this club but they deserve what is coming for them. I dont know who invented this system they use. We are just creating haters for ourselve but world class players for others. Why don't we use the barca youth system where the kids are not forced to believe they have a place in the team, they are just there to learn how to play football their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashimaru161 77 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said: i bet you that is the same thing solanke will do to us. as a matter of fact i would rub it right in so you will see the mistake you committed. At least if chelsea had inserted a buy back clause he would have had the idea that we do care but no like we did to others(de bruyne, solanke, ryan bertrand) go f**k yourself is what we told them.I love this club but they deserve what is coming for them. I dont know who invented this system they use. We are just creating haters for ourselve but world class players for others. Why don't we use the barca youth system where the kids are not forced to believe they have a place in the team, they are just there to learn how to play football their way. I'd like to point out that after xavi ini golden generation they have stopped using home grown kids instead resort to buy flops, yes, flop likes andrea gomes. And the chance for such a generation is once every thirty years or longer. solanke demands a 59.99k per week contract so I think the board was not cool with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 5 hours ago, Georgy said: I agree with this. It's one thing to want him at the club for his goals and another to say he is a Chelsea fan. This guy left with the first plane as soon as he had to fight for his place. And he did the right thing. Chelsea Legend 11, Thor, Stats and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Lukaku moved for the good of his career and when you look at the big picture it was a damn good one. communicate, EMK, Stats and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 So there is a general consensus here that Lukaku is an average footballer albeit a decent athlete and great goalscorer. For 100m. Even though we will never pay that for him, he will be madly expensive as Eerton know there are not many young strikers with his kind of goalscoring record out there. And that is actually the reason why players like him, Morata and Belotti are quoted at these rdidiculous amounts. For 100m we can get 3 strikers of his quality with similar goalscroing ability. Just go down the scoring charts of the top leagues. Lacazette, Gomez, Modeste,  Aduritz, Werner.... not that much of a drop in quality and the board knows that. Lukakus is probably very much a finsihed product. But in their eyes that is not an argument against Lukaku but one in his favor. 20-25 goals per season for 6-8 years if managed correctly. The predictability in this is the charm for the people in charge, managers value nothing more than predictability in their investments. 100m for 120-200 goals, seems like a decent deal. With Rom back we will flat-track bully all the weak sides over and over again and that will win us the league on more occasions than not. Certainly Rom will not lead us anywhere in the CL, strikers who prevail there already had a much better all-round play and technical ability at 24 but so what. It is not that we will work wonders in the CL in the next few years anyway. You can reproach the board for lack of ambition but they are obviously trying to steady the ship. All in all, Lukaku will not be a catastrophy but if this is 100m invested the best way I am not so sure. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 12, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 12, 2017 Not keen on buying him, but we wont be paying100m for him. He refused the contract already and will be on last year. 60m will be the highest. It would be stupid when we haggle for every deal about every other player, but simply let everton rape us with that 100m price and take it. The Skipper, kellzfresh, FabHazard and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Not keen on buying him, but we wont be paying100m for him. He refused the contract already and will be on last year. 60m will be the highest. It would be stupid when we haggle for every deal about every other player, but simply let everton rape us with that 100m price and take it. True I believe this as well. No way we will pay 100 million. It will be in that range as you mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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