Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, Tomo said: Gomez averaged a goal a game for Bayern in 11/12 yet dropping him for a player who doesn't even score half as much turned them into treble winners.Β Β In my opinion Lukaku is going to have to hit Messi-Ronaldo figure's to make up for his flaws. Dont compare the bundesliga to the epl ever again. there is no competition there. Even tottenhem can win the league 4times on the bounce there. Β Thor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Just now, Bernard N Y Burgesson said: Dont compare the bundesliga to the epl ever again. there is no competition there. Even tottenhem can win the league 4times on the bounce there. Β Yeah its so easy no one hadΒ ever done 4 in a row (for a very long time if ever)Β before last year. And this ultra competitive EPL you are describing, is that the league so strong 4 of the last 5 winners have pissed the league? DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 19 minutes ago, Peace. said: To be frank there is nothing impressive in that video and his "ultimate" skills are quite banal, to say the least. Not only that, but there are dozens of "skills" and moves that have genuinely nothing to do in a "skills compilation" video β and the fact that they are nonetheless included speaks volume about the technical abilities of the said player. He may be a good goalscorer but he is also an average football player. Here, he will most likely get the goals yet will not improve whatsoever the team as a whole, which is kind of problematic isn't it. This is not the profil of player that top teams should target to lead their front line β or to play anywhere within the starting eleven, for that matter β, but alas we seem to be unable to shot above that height... to say the truth majority of the players in England are average. Those we get leave for better teams like Real Madrid honestly. MAN U= rojo pogba mhki jones smalling rashford( when i look at other around his age out there) fellaini............. MANCITY= otamedi yaya sterling(to some level) nolito fernando and dinho ............ Arsenal = apart from Sanchez and let me add Ozil for the benefit of the dou Tottenham= At the moment i can say they have a good first team but their dept is below average CHELSEA= Matic moses alonso(he can't even get into the national team) i feel like i should add Cahill as well LIVERPOOL= Matip clyne can milner Both keepers and the bench our preety average All these players are big in England but how many would attract serious attention globally( meaning world eleven status) People might not agree but that thow i feel so we should talk as though any of the strikers we are chasing are that great.Β If you want great= Auba, carvani, suarez, lewandowski kane dybala griezmann mbappe sanchez aguero............. People who are actually part of europes TOP 5 leagues goal scorers charts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Peace. said: To be frank there is nothing impressive in that video and his "ultimate" skills are quite banal, to say the least. Not only that, but there are dozens of "skills" and moves that have genuinely nothing to do in a "skills compilation" video β and the fact that they are nonetheless included speaks volume about the technical abilities of the said player. He may be a good goalscorer but he is also an average football player. Here, he will most likely get the goals yet will not improve whatsoever the team as a whole, which is kind of problematic isn't it. This is not the profil of player that top teams should target to lead their front line β or to play anywhere within the starting eleven, for that matter β, but alas we seem to be unable to shot above that height... btw i dont think you read what you wrote. What doesΒ chelsea need, someone to score more Β than 20 goal per season which costa doesnt do. Now how can you say bringing someone who would get us the goals doesn't improve the team us a whole. Look at ibrahimovic that guy is so shitty with be ball at his feet worst than lukaku but nobody talks about it because he still scores the goals. He is so poor at link up play and can't control the ball unless it is in the air. So lets not act as if lukaku is that bad. Yes he does not warrant the price being asked but is good enough. The two seasons in which costa scored 20 goals in the EPL we won the tilte so if we can get someone who will give us 25 or more then we are even likely to get a double anytime we win the EPL. Costa was never good at adding to the team except scoring that is why when he was scoring not too many complained because its his job to score but when you stop doing your job and doing other things you become useless to the team. ibrah was shitty on many occassions in the league but he scored that one goal or two to shut people up. the only diff is he never complained of returning to france or going to china mashimaru161 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,914 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Average footballer but great goal scorer? So like Diego Costa then? Or even Harry Kane? Neither of those two are electric with the ball yet score 20 or more per season. Lukaku is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXL70 396 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 No please, not Lukaku back at Chelsea. He is just an veryΒ average player, much less talented than Michy.Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rapkun 668 Posted June 10, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Tomo said: Costa may be shit technically but his movement to shift defenses all over the shop is a key reasonΒ why we only dropped 7 points in 26 games vs flat track sides. Lukaku has no movement or tactical awareness in the build up that i really fear we will have more 13/14 like frustration's trying to break down lesser sides. I don't think people realize how good Diego Costa actually is. Won championships in Spain and England playing for teams with low blocks but people still call him a donkey SMH. As for his lack of technique, I agree he's not the most comfortable on the ball but his link-up was unreal at times. Very few strikers in the world have the ability or the first touch to control those long balls from Fabregas and convert them into goals like he does. Made it look so easy. Strike, Johnnyeye, Tomo and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Tomo said: Costa may be shit technically but his movement to shift defenses all over the shop is a key reasonΒ why we only dropped 7 points in 26 games vs flat track sides. Lukaku has no movement or tactical awareness in the build up that i really fear we will have more 13/14 like frustration's trying to break down lesser sides. He defo improved his technique this season. Look at his goals against Southampton (A), WBA (H), Hull away. Three brilliant goals that I would never typically associate with him. His first touch will never be great but in terms of technique and striking the ball he defo improved on that this season which proved to be important, especially against the lower teams in the table who would sit and defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Bernard N Y Burgesson said: Dont compare the bundesliga to the epl ever again. there is no competition there. Even tottenhem can win the league 4times on the bounce there. Β I think he meant CL too. Mandzukic was pivotal there, despite Gomez being better finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Rapkun said: I don't think people realize how good Diego Costa actually is. Won championships in Spain and England playing for teams with low blocks but people still call him a donkey SMH. As for his lack of technique, I agree he's not the most comfortable on the ball but his link-up was unreal at times. Very few strikers in the world have the ability or the first touch to control those long balls from Fabregas and convert them into goals like he does. Made it look so easy. Not Costa biggest fan, i do agree he is getting incredibly underrated. Abilities aside, from a personality standpoint he is also a big loss, gritty and feisty player that has enormous impact on his teammates. Players around him feed off that energy, and pivotal to a winning side. Part of Atletico historic success, and our side that won 2 PL in 3 years. From a personality standpoint, going from Costa to Lukaku. Is like going from a lion to a pussy cat. Massive downgrade. DYC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,711 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Gomez averaged a goal a game for Bayern in 11/12 yet dropping him for a player who doesn't even score half as much turned them into treble winners.Β Β In my opinion Lukaku is going to have to hit Messi-Ronaldo figure's to make up for his flaws.Yeah... have a look at that Bayern side and this Chelsea side. It isn't close in terms of the amount of talent outside the striker. They had players who can chip in goals at every position just about. Not to mention every player was near world class. Did I miss something and has this happened at Chelsea? Where is this stigma coming from that Lukaku is some pushover in terms of personality and Costa is some fierce lion? Laughable really. As if you lot are on the pitch getting an ear in as to what goes on. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,711 Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 To be frank there is nothing impressive in that video and his "ultimate" skills are quite banal, to say the least. Not only that, but there are dozens of "skills" and moves that have genuinely nothing to do in a "skills compilation" video β and the fact that they are nonetheless included speaks volume about the technical abilities of the said player. He may be a good goalscorer but he is also an average football player. Here, he will most likely get the goals yet will not improve whatsoever the team as a whole, which is kind of problematic isn't it. This is not the profil of player that top teams should target to lead their front line β or to play anywhere within the starting eleven, for that matter β, but alas we seem to be unable to shot above that height...Why not just say you don't like him?Which parts exactly didn't belong in a skills compilation. He is a 6 foot 3, 100kg player. Were you expecting rabonas, spins and chops all video long? Go watch a 50kg manlet on the wing then. All this shit about him being poor with the ball when he is a step up from Costa. All this stuff about him being poor with link up? Better than Costa. Goals? Better than Costa. In the air? Better than Costa. And he is 24. Our board clearly doesn't know what they're doing though. Not like we've won all these premier league titles and a champions league recently. Clearly we don't bring in the right players to reach new heights. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Footballover and Chelsea Legend 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 A man united fan told me that we should be greatful for getting lukaku for 80m pounds because they sold pogba for free and it cost them 89m while we sold lukaku for 28m so technically we are getting him gor 51m. Crazy how some people thinkΒ that chelsea has that kind of confidence after the Torres issueΒ to pay that much money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Some impressive finishes there. Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 Β TheIceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/10/2017 at 1:00 PM, Tomo said: Gomez averaged a goal a game for Bayern in 11/12 yet dropping him for a player who doesn't even score half as much turned them into treble winners.Β Β In my opinion Lukaku is going to have to hit Messi-Ronaldo figure's to make up for his flaws. LOL... I can't tell the last timeΒ I read such a load of rubbish.Β Really wish people would just start their posts with "firstly, I don't like the guy" Β that way I will know to ignore the ridiculous comments on here. Bernard N Y Burgesson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 21 hours ago, Peace. said: To be frank there is nothing impressive in that video and his "ultimate" skills are quite banal, to say the least. Not only that, but there are dozens of "skills" and moves that have genuinely nothing to do in a "skills compilation" video β and the fact that they are nonetheless included speaks volume about the technical abilities of the said player. He may be a good goalscorer but he is also an average football player. Here, he will most likely get the goals yet will not improve whatsoever the team as a whole, which is kind of problematic isn't it. This is not the profil of player that top teams should target to lead their front line β or to play anywhere within the starting eleven, for that matter β, but alas we seem to be unable to shot above that height... LOL... What are you looking for Cruyff turns and rabona flicks??? He's a freaking CF not a false 9 or a 10... The skill set you associate with a CF are well under display here and I would go as far as to challenge to to find me 10 better out and out strikers in the world.Β First of all, the most important SKILL a striker can possess is his finishing ability. The second most important SKILL is hold up play, particularly in a 1 striker system. Link up play is also key but not really a qualifiable skill since you need players around you in order to grade your effectiveness. He is an exceptional lone striker who is highly clinical in the box.Β Let the magic and ingenuity come from our wingers and midfielders, Lukaku just has to be there to finish off opportunities to make us better.Β Bernard N Y Burgesson and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted June 11, 2017 Share Posted June 11, 2017 14 hours ago, manpe said: Some impressive finishes there. Β And about 10 tap ins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Barbara 15,149 Posted June 11, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 11, 2017 Let's prepare ourselves for Torres, the second coming for twice the price We like to break this kind of fluke records Strike, Peace., Clockwork and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted June 11, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted June 11, 2017 Am I missing something here? Lukaku scored 25 goals last season correct? He is homegrown, right? He loves Chelsea, right? Played with a bunch of stiffs last year, right? He is 24 and can actually still grow, right? I think people need to relax and allow the board and Conte to do their job. Many of you here, including myself have proven to be VERY wrong on more than a few occasions. Its best to take chill pill, he's not Torres, he's not Shevy, he's Lukaku who has bled blue since he was a teenager. Strike, MetsajCFC, Valdo and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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