manpe 10,861 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 First death has been confirmed... sigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,320 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 20-30 deaths by shootings every year in London anyway.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Yep, a 26 year old in his car shot.Look at this.... Makes me feel sick watching that. That's the lowest of the fucking low and that guy will get done thanks to this vid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was talking to one of my friends from up in Tottenham yesterday. He's moved out of these rough areas where the rioting started but still has people in that area. He told me this year alone.. 75% of funding was cut to these poor areas. That youth centres, swimming pools and generally other extra curricular activities shut down.Yeah we all say "school" is the answer. But what if schools not the answer? Not everyone is academic. So where's the other solutions? Where were the apprenticeships, the training, the guidance? Nowhere, because there was no money for that. Meanwhile that same government, wasted millions of pounds flying into foreign countries to mess with their country. I wonder how much that cost them.Do I condemn the burning of houses? Yes of course I do. But there's a deeper issue than "bored kids" here.I find this status someone put up, quite humorous in an ironic way:"Would it be ok for an Arab leader to wage war on England now..saying that it's a broken country that needs fixing?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwylino 329 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Its just gone way Over the top. just seriously my long ago lost faith in the UK has been Buried deeper and deeper into the ground. By mindless chav scum. Dont they even know there just doing more negatives and causing terror For just normal people who want to get on with their lives and be the ones who Pay for these cunts little benefits. But Well they have right to be angry at Well police killing people and generally our own goverments fuck ups. But to protest wait not protest but to Loot like that in response. Unacceptable. and to think this is being shown and known America,Asia probably all over the world is pretty doing a good job of soiling our....well is britain Really.....Great anymore. For me.....never properly has been. but this has just...Downright dirtyJust a general sigh/shitpostBut to add on guys seriously theres different opinions on this. Calling people names for stating their input into this is Not the way to have a inteligent arguement and to only esculate things thus could cause our very own troubles. last place some would want is here ending up like them streets. in need for some calm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 quoting the king's song here: "If they say why, why? Tell 'em that it's human nature"And that is the nature of many humans nowadays, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 This situation typifies the English people. Low life young scumbags who dropped out of school at the age of 16 and never had a job are burning and looting shops in London. Not only the young, it's the adults aswell, they all think violence is the only answer and think their massive sick cunts because they drink beer till they end up in hospital and kick peoples heads in for fun. It's the English mentality. The English people really are cowards. No wonder Spain is more attractive in both Footballing & social terms. (And their women are actually look decent). I'll probably get -rep (Zolayes or Madmax come into mind) but meh.so you feel these scum are TYPICAL English ...You have printed something which deserves to be negative repped ..its RACIST..How long have youlived in England to have developed such a hatred of us. Ive heard of Pommie bashing but has the decline of your cricket team hurt you somuch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The victim was predictably described in unflattering terms. In the earliest articles the Telegraph reported that on the night that Duggan was killed they were informed by "police sources" that the dead man was a "well-known gangster" who had been under surveillance by officers investigating gun crime in a preplanned operation in Tottenhan Hale – the implication of "gangster" being that he was not worthy of public sympathy and may well have met a violent end in any event.He was shot for a reason. Drug dealing gangster low life scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 These riots in the western "democratic" world have so many similarities that after observing them for a certain amount of time you aren't shocked by what is happening and have to think beyond simply restoring "order". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I am surprised the army hasn't been called in on the streets.All these Rioters are low life scumbags who move in gangs and have found this as an opportunity to loot the property of hardworking men and women.This is an ideal opportunity for cops to reduce their numbers in half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 This situation typifies the English people. Low life young scumbags who dropped out of school at the age of 16 and never had a job are burning and looting shops in London. Not only the young, it's the adults aswell, they all think violence is the only answer and think their massive sick cunts because they drink beer till they end up in hospital and kick peoples heads in for fun. It's the English mentality. The English people really are cowards. No wonder Spain is more attractive in both Footballing & social terms. (And their women are actually look decent). I'll probably get -rep (Zolayes or Madmax come into mind) but meh.racist.i suppose that everything is perfect in Australia then is it. Everyone stays at school until 18, drink orange juice because it is good for them and are the bravest people in the world. Spain in social terms is by no means perfect as well. (1/4 spanish btw). Racism is a huge problem there, they are in financial mess as well. Why don't you go and support Real Madrid and join a Spanish sports forum if we are all such disgusting people in England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 First death has been confirmed... sighI was expecting more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 These riots in the western "democratic" world have so many similarities that after observing them for a certain amount of time you aren't shocked by what is happening and have to think beyond simply restoring "order".Could you elaborate more on what exactly you are trying to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was expecting more.It could rise. They have not checked all of the burnt out flats yet to see if everyone got out safely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 It could rise. They have not checked all of the burnt out flats yet to see if everyone got out safely. Was watching few videos there soecialy the one where the guy was beaten and then robbed. Would love the cop to put a bullet in the head of that thug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I was talking to one of my friends from up in Tottenham yesterday. He's moved out of these rough areas where the rioting started but still has people in that area. He told me this year alone.. 75% of funding was cut to these poor areas. That youth centres, swimming pools and generally other extra curricular activities shut down.Yeah we all say "school" is the answer. But what if schools not the answer? Not everyone is academic. So where's the other solutions? Where were the apprenticeships, the training, the guidance? Nowhere, because there was no money for that. Meanwhile that same government, wasted millions of pounds flying into foreign countries to mess with their country. I wonder how much that cost them.Do I condemn the burning of houses? Yes of course I do. But there's a deeper issue than "bored kids" here.I find this status someone put up, quite humorous in an ironic way:"Would it be ok for an Arab leader to wage war on England now..saying that it's a broken country that needs fixing?"I don't believe there is any excuse for this. I appreciate what you are saying and it is indeed a valid argument. I agree with you that Britain's major problem is its desire to aid other countries instead of ensuring its own house is in order first. However there can be denying that this is simply the offspring of intolerance and ignorance, and I believe there is no excuse for the violence and destruction.Two years of national service ought to do the trick as far as I'm concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Could you elaborate more on what exactly you are trying to say?Most of the reactions I've seen in the last few days are those of shock, disbelief, sadness, fear and less frequently rage. Since I'm neutral to whatever the conflicting sides are and largely a stranger to UK politics I can't feel any of those feelings after having researched the Paris riots and most importantly witnessed and suffered from similar scenes in Greece . On the other hand such riots provide ground for a sociopolitical analysis on the reasons European countries with vast differences come to this, it doesn't take much to realize it's more than bored brats and thugs let loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I don't believe there is any excuse for this. I appreciate what you are saying and it is indeed a valid argument. I agree with you that Britain's major problem is its desire to aid other countries instead of ensuring its own house is in order first. However there can be denying that this is simply the offspring of intolerance and ignorance, and I believe there is no excuse for the violence and destruction.Two years of national service ought to do the trick as far as I'm concerned.Thanks for at least listening to my point!And I do agree. While I stand by my point, I do agree with everyone in saying this is a really stupid way to go about because they make things worse for themselves and everyone else. These kids don't have the agenda I'm talking about, obviously, but I think it's still one to be addressed. Ed Miliband kind of referred to what I was talking about,"The issue of deeper underlying causes of some of the activity that we have seen, of why people indulge in this criminal behaviour, is something that, of course, needs to be looked at," We'll see as to how far he'll go through with this claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 You better fix everything before the Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middleoftheshed 388 Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 All shops shutting early round here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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