J.F. 1,484 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Carlo isn't Brazilian.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 You have to admit it was funny though! Dont think so, it happens a lot in stadiums in SA. It must stop. Imagine you if such a thing happened in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hiddink is known for getting the best out of his players, I thought our run in the CL was fantastic and with the form we were running on during the end of the season we were almost unbeatable (fucking Ovrebo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,326 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Dont think so, it happens a lot in stadiums in SA. It must stop. Imagine you if such a thing happened in England.Throwing of radios is a common occurrence in South American stadiums? Blimey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hiddink is known for getting the best out of his players, I thought our run in the CL was fantastic and with the form we were running on during the end of the season we were almost unbeatable (fucking Ovrebo).Again it is all very deceiving. We almost always hit form in march. What made hiddink job more easy was that players don't need motivation to impress a new manager. They all were eager to perform. Hence a good run in champions league and premier league and FA cup. I hope he wins us the champions league but I wudnt jizz my pants just yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 But you were quick to point out how many trophiless seasons Ancelotti had with AC Milan. Hyprocrite..no?Again you and my critics seems to see the world in black and white.Hiddinks career is totally different. Hidding left PSV and went to Turkey to manager Fernebace, the went to Valencia, then he managed dutch national team for 4 years, then he went to Real Madrid and got the axe before one entire season because he said the club lacked professionalism, then: Real Betis, South Korea, PSV, Australia, Russia, Turkey.Carlo in Italy: 1999-2009 managed the giants Juventus and Milan, in a period when they were really giants.If you can't seen a huge difference between a manager who stayed one entire decade managing top clubs in the same league and managed to win only one league and a manager who besides some months in Real Madrid never managed a really great team, then you are hopeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Throwing of radios is a common occurrence in South American stadiums? Blimey!maybe they dont have televisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Throwing of radios is a common occurrence in South American stadiums? Blimey!Not radios, any objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Our CL run that year somehow nearly ended prematurely despite winning 3-1 at Anfield. How did we manage to let go that lead and let them make it 4-4? We nearly lost 4-5 remember, Essien (I think it was) saved on the goal line in the dying minutes.I need to stress that I'm not anti-Hiddink, in fact I quite like him, but I just refuse to get over-excited at this stage. Just responding to some of the stuff I come across here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Carlo isn't Brazilian..Good for him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Our CL run that year somehow nearly ended prematurely despite winning 3-1 at Anfield. How did we manage to let go that lead and let them make it 4-4? We nearly lost 4-5 remember, Essien (I think it was) saved on the goal line in the dying minutes.I need to stress that I'm not anti-Hiddink, in fact I quite like him, but I just refuse to get over-excited at this stage. Just responding to some of the stuff I come across here.In fact that match is a point in his favor, not against him.There was phycological collapse in the first half, and Liverpool scored 2 goals, but in the second half we came with a totally different attitude, and it was Hiddinks work.It the second half the scoreboard was 4-2.Thats the difference between the italian and the dutch, the latter knows how to change a game.Hiddink stopped Barcelona's teams, and managed to scored 3 times against Liverpool in their home. Mourinho couldn't score one single time in 3 attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Could also be said that Carlo had much the same squad as Hiddink, But Hiddink had them when they were younger, They were hungry to win something as they didn't win anything the season before, and alot of them were playing for there contracts for the next season.Hiddink is being perscribed here as 'The perfect coach', with his acomplishments in South Korea being noted. That means nothing when trying to suit him with the Chelsea job. He isn't managing a country that has no history of being a top footballing nation, He's managing Chelsea F.C, One of the best teams in England and Europe. Certain managers are able to perform better in smaller teams than others, and others cope well with the big teams. Hiddink was only here for 4 months, and he did make one major mistake, Being that he instructed the players to defend rather than attack a 10 man Barcelona and make certain of there passage to the final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Our CL run that year somehow nearly ended prematurely despite winning 3-1 at Anfield. How did we manage to let go that lead and let them make it 4-4? We nearly lost 4-5 remember, Essien (I think it was) saved on the goal line in the dying minutes.People talk about ovrebo fucking us up. But Hiddink made a tactical blunder by sitting back for the final 20 minutes against 10 men Barcelona who were there for the taking. Invited pressure for 20 mins and then we all know what happened. People slated Grant when he sat back at 3-1 against spurs while spurs leveled 4-4 in the end. Yet They don't blame hiddink for that blunder against 10 men Barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 In fact that match is a point in his favor, not against him.There was phycological collapse in the first half, and Liverpool scored 2 goals, but in the second half we came with a totally different attitude, and it was Hiddinks work.It the second half the scoreboard was 4-2.Thats the difference between the italian and the dutch, the latter knows how to change a game.Hiddink stopped Barcelona's teams, and managed to scored 3 times against Liverpool in their home. Mourinho couldn't score one single time in 3 attempts.That's one way of looking at it.But the other way is ... after winning 3-1 away, why did we end up having that poor first half? Did Hiddink motivate the players enough? Or did he let them become complacent?There's another previous ... we lead Bolton (of all teams) 4-0 at home in the league but they came back to 4-3 in the last 20 mins. Only a Deco goal line block prevented it from being 4-4 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 In fact that match is a point in his favor, not against him.There was phycological collapse in the first half, and Liverpool scored 2 goals, but in the second half we came with a totally different attitude, and it was Hiddinks work.Hiddink stopped Barcelona's teams, and managed to scored 3 times against Liverpool in their home. Mourinho couldn't score one single time in 3 attempts.So the psychological collapse wasn't his fault? Which team in thier right mind gives 4 goals to a visiting team in a champions league knock out?Hiddink stopped them for 70 mins after which he had a brain fart. How could any top team sit back for 20 mins against a 10 man team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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