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I didn't compare. If you actually read my post you will notice that I never actually compared the two sides. I merely stated the immobility does not equate to a stagnate midfield and I used Spain's midfield as an example.

well, you used an example to do what? prove a point, right? but using spain's midfield as an example here could not be more inappropriate. the approach to the game that these 2 teams have could not be more different.

also spain's team in WC did lack mobility. and that was one of the reasons that they scored 8 goals (i think) in the whole of WC. and like i said before their success had a lot to do with a solid defence which england dont have. add to that the fact that the english mid wont have 10% of the understanding and the overall passing ability that the spanish team have (dont forget that spain literally play 4-6-0 sometimes and each and every1 of those midfield players is a great passer of the ball), i just doubt if the example is a valid one here.

anyways, getting too off-topic and off the original point. i just simply cant see the benefit of playing carrick in THAT role (DM i can totally understand) instead of lamps. specially since a 35 year old lamps still has the legs on a 31 year old carrick, has as good a passing ability and definitely is a far greater goal threat (which would be very useful since i cant see where england's goals would come from). so lets just agree to disagree about it.

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The England national team fascinates me. Here is how I'd manage the bastards:

Starting XI

Lallana - Rooney - Walcott

Gerrard - Carrick

Barry

Baines - Smalling - Jones - Chambers

Forster

I think this would be a much more realistic English lineup for Brazil:

Starting XI

Lallana - Rooney - Sterling/Lennon

Gerrard - Wilshere

Barry

Baines - Cahill - Jags - Walker

Forster

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well, you used an example to do what? prove a point, right? but using spain's midfield as an example here could not be more inappropriate. the approach to the game that these 2 teams have could not be more different.

also spain's team in WC did lack mobility. and that was one of the reasons that they scored 8 goals (i think) in the whole of WC. and like i said before their success had a lot to do with a solid defence which england dont have. add to that the fact that the english mid wont have 10% of the understanding and the overall passing ability that the spanish team have (dont forget that spain literally play 4-6-0 sometimes and each and every1 of those midfield players is a great passer of the ball), i just doubt if the example is a valid one here.

anyways, getting too off-topic and off the original point. i just simply cant see the benefit of playing carrick in THAT role (DM i can totally understand) instead of lamps. specially since a 35 year old lamps still has the legs on a 31 year old carrick, has as good a passing ability and definitely is a far greater goal threat (which would be very useful since i cant see where england's goals would come from). so lets just agree to disagree about it.

Playing Gerrard, Carrick and Barry together are just overkill. I probably will drop either Carrick or Barry and play either lamp/Wilshere.

Playing sturidge on the wing is just suicide because he does not want to track back, losing Walcott is a big loss imo

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Playing Gerrard, Carrick and Barry together are just overkill. I probably will drop either Carrick or Barry and play either lamp/Wilshere.

Playing sturidge on the wing is just suicide because he does not want to track back, losing Walcott is a big loss imo

totally agree.

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MotD is such a joke. Watching the highlights of Stoke Man Utd, they made Man utd look better than they were.

Not the first time their highlights are biased as hell. I remember watching it after a very good performance by us and they were making the match looked much more even than it was.

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MotD is such a joke. Watching the highlights of Stoke Man Utd, they made Man utd look better than they were.

Not the first time their highlights are biased as hell. I remember watching it after a very good performance by us and they were making the match looked much more even than it was.

have you got a link of the Motd?

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Man Utd lost again even with Mata, RVP and Rooney on

Yet everyone still makes excuses for Moyes, I can only imagine the abuse ferguson would have got had he been still the manager and the same thing happened. They'd be saying the old man's gone senile.

First time Stokes beat them since 1984, he records keeps coming. :/

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It really is annoying seeing Sturridge score week after week.

We wouldn't even need to buy a super expensive striker had we kept him. He seems to be scoring every game he plays.

Tap ins. Without Suarez how many goals would Sturridge realistically have?

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:D Kolo epic fail moment of the week

Tap ins. Without Suarez how many goals would Sturridge realistically have?

He was top scorer in the League while Suarez was banned - if it was so easy to be in a position for a tap in why is only Eto'o capable of scoring some for us

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