Vesper 31,180 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Laylabelle said: Tbf we're horrific against most... I meant for years now, not just last season and the few games now Edited September 3, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,284 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 We are a million miles away from Arsenal.. how the fuck has this happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,180 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, DDA said: We are a million miles away from Arsenal.. how the fuck has this happened. inertia from the end of Roman, plus a complete rebuild, change of focus from Boehly to pure youth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,759 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, DDA said: We are a million miles away from Arsenal.. how the fuck has this happened. And now Tottenham apparently, as well. All these past years laughing at the pair of them. Well if it's anything, they didn't win anything last season. And Tottenham already got dumped out of the EFL cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,754 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, DDA said: We are a million miles away from Arsenal.. how the fuck has this happened. Sad how quickly it has as well...just drifting around mid table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,284 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 The only thing to bring us back is an Arteta like revolution. Is Pep capable? I fucking hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,759 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Vesper said: inertia from the end of Roman, plus a complete rebuild, change of focus from Boehly to pure youth That focus on pure youth is a very high risk gamble. Hopefully they'll come to their senses sooner rather than later. Nothing against youth signings, but they need to mix it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,759 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, DDA said: The only thing to bring us back is an Arteta like revolution. Is Pep capable? I fucking hope so. You mean Poch? laura90, Vesper and DDA 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,680 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Fuck football, depressing. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,284 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: You mean Poch? Yea I meant Potch lol autocorrect... even my phone has had enough of me typing negative posts and dreams of better days 🙃 Blue Armour and xPetrCechx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Someone just said the average age of Arsenal's team on the pitch was under 24. We still using the U23 excuse on this Chelsea team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, Vesper said: Manure are horrific on the road versus every top team except for us Yes, we are not a top team xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,408 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Who do we blame? No Jorginho, Mount, Havertz, Pulisic, or Ziyech anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,853 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, DDA said: We are a million miles away from Arsenal.. how the fuck has this happened. Arsenal have been good since the start of last season. In a combined Chelsea-Arsenal team, I'd rate James over their RB and that's about it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,284 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Strike said: Arsenal have been good since the start of last season. In a combined Chelsea-Arsenal team, I'd rate James over their RB and that's about it right now. Enzo over Havertz bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,180 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: That focus on pure youth is a very high risk gamble. Hopefully they'll come to their senses sooner rather than later. Nothing against youth signings, but they need to mix it up. well, the only players older than 25yo (the supposed cutoff by the board) and under 31yo that we could have had a real go at, ones that are truly good enough and might have maybe come here were very few one 30yo (Oblak) no 29 yos two 28 yos (Maignan and Skriniar) no 27 yos then six 26yos (the 2 AMFs are the biggest misses) Frenkie de Jong Central Midfield 26 (too similar to Enzo IMHO) Nicolò Barella Central Midfield 26 (we got Caicedo instead) Lucas Paquetá Attacking Midfield 26 James Maddison Attacking Midfield 26 Ousmane Dembélé Right Winger 26 (I know many here don't rate him) Lautaro Martínez Centre-Forward 26 (I know many here don't rate him, even more than posters who do not rate Dembele) ALL the rest of the ones I truly rate and who were available and were not pipe dreams are 25yo and under, so fall under the youth movement and only four them were even 25: (Chiesa who is coming off a massive injury, Theo Hernández, who is shaky defensively,Federico Valverde, who is basically a pipedream as well, and Bruno Guimarães , who we already have too many similar players to now) the rest were 24 and under, and 2 of those are only 19yo (António Silva, who is my NUMBER ONE (by far) CB available want on the planet atm, and then the near pipe dream Gavi) so, the non youth (ie over 25 and still, under 31) buys who would have been great (ie to my approval in terms of quality) are so few in reality these are the only 'non youth' ones (and I grant the ones in bold are HUGE misses) who were even remotely available and would come here that a person can have a go about (and almost all were hard as fuck pulls): Skriniar (grrrr) the 2 AMFs are the other two of the biggest misses (Paquetá and Maddison) the 2 GKers: Oblak and possibly Maignan (both insanely hard pulls, and I would rather have the 'youth' Diogo Costa or probably (it is close) Mamardashvili than Maignan but I will list him as he is better than the 2 we have now, IMHO, and he is a deffo clear 4th (or 3rd, if you rate him over Mamar) in terms or remotely available keepers) plus Ousmane Dembélé and Lautaro Martínez, both of whom many here do not rate (I rate them both, but will not put them bold) and finally Frenkie de Jong and Nicolò Barella (who we do not need as we have similar players now, would have been crazy hard to pull and expensive) Edited September 3, 2023 by Vesper Blue Armour 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,754 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Arsenal aren't the same team as before..know crumbled last season but injuries and all. Its not like another team takes a lead and they run off and cant do anything. Don't think they'll win the league but be challenging again Reddish-Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,180 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Strike said: Arsenal have been good since the start of last season. In a combined Chelsea-Arsenal team, I'd rate James over their RB and that's about it right now. both our starting fullbacks (when healthy) are better (Zinchenko is the only LB on their roster and I rate Chilwell over him, no way would I swap unless i knew for sure Chilwell will become perma injured) they literally have no CMFs on their roster so that is a default win I rate our combined CMFs and DMFs over theirs they do have better everywhere else (unless Djordje Petrovic turns out to be a monster) although I do not rate Gabriel that much overall, and surely either Colwill and/or Badi eventually pass him by so 4 Chels 7 Arse atm they CRUSH us in terms of offensive players Edited September 3, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,902 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Why are we allowing these people to represent the Chelsea fanbase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,529 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 My combine 11 would be: Ramsdale James Saliba Colwill Chilwell Enzo Caicedo Saka Odegaard Nkunku Jesus Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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