The English Football Thread

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

On 25/10/2019 at 9:46 PM, Special Juan said:

0-5 this Southampton boss wants sacking at HT, this is disgraceful. 

And now you want him here. 

[Azul 1,615]

Southampton doing well this season but wouldn’t like to see us go for Hassenhuttl. Not as a first or second choice anyway.
I will be honest the high energy pressing style is admirable but the insistence on hitting the channels/balls over the top every chance they get is a bit predictable and here its not already as if teams don’t sit off us and play deep so it’s not going to work as easy as it does for a Southampton. 
We have guys like Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz who you would like to see playing one and two touch combinations with each other moving into spaces as opposed to chasing balls over the top/in the channels. Plus he has played 442 at Leipzig and now Southampton, its undoubtedly his system and it doesnt particularly suit our squad either. Plus the players he moved on from Southampton because they didnt fit his style. Which isn’t mentioned. Would he do the same here?
Hope they keep this result up though. He strikes me as a manager who's doing well there, not as good as Pochettino but more like Koeman when he replaced Poch. 

Hassenhuttl is known for his combination football though. With better quality at his disposal he'd ofcourse play much more attractive football.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Unpopular opinion maybe but I think City will win it. 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

20 minutes ago, Azul said:

48 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Southampton doing well this season but wouldn’t like to see us go for Hassenhuttl. Not as a first or second choice anyway.
I will be honest the high energy pressing style is admirable but the insistence on hitting the channels/balls over the top every chance they get is a bit predictable and here its not already as if teams don’t sit off us and play deep so it’s not going to work as easy as it does for a Southampton. 
We have guys like Ziyech, Pulisic, Havertz who you would like to see playing one and two touch combinations with each other moving into spaces as opposed to chasing balls over the top/in the channels. Plus he has played 442 at Leipzig and now Southampton, its undoubtedly his system and it doesnt particularly suit our squad either. Plus the players he moved on from Southampton because they didnt fit his style. Which isn’t mentioned. Would he do the same here?
Hope they keep this result up though. He strikes me as a manager who's doing well there, not as good as Pochettino but more like Koeman when he replaced Poch. 

Hassenhuttl is known for his combination football though. With better quality at his disposal he'd ofcourse play much more attractive football.

Is he? From what I remember of Leipzig with him they were basically the same as Southampton bar a wee bit more quality with Werner and Forsberg. Still hit the channels, still looked over the top and played on transitions. Not saying it wouldn’t work but when youve got talented players like Pulisic, Havertz (ok hes been pisspoor for a whole), Ziyech among others, then look at Southampton trying to break teams down when they go up against teams that defend... it isn’t exactly that good. Yes the quality of players maybe doesn’t help but again there isn’t much invention in the same way you see in other teams in the PL: Leeds are actually an excellent example of this. Thats why we need to find a coach who can get these boys into positions where they can break down teams using their qualities and not relying purely on the opposition leaving huge spaces for counters or due to losing it due to being pressed/sloppy on the ball. Might work for Southampton and has them flying but City, Liverpool, even United and Spurs at times have more to their make ups than that and ultimately we want to be competing with them/better than them.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Unpopular opinion maybe but I think City will win it. 

Not with the bookies -been second favourite all along

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

Sane throws himself to the ground hands outstretched. OK so if not a penalty, book Sane for diving then

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

Liverpool 230 minutes without a goal. Longest period with Klopp. 

[Milan 17,853]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Sane throws himself to the ground hands outstretched. OK so if not a penalty, book Sane for diving then

He knows that it works. If not this time, next time for sure. And a Liverpool player getting booked for diving, that notion made me laugh.

[Azul 1,615]

Is he? From what I remember of Leipzig with him they were basically the same as Southampton bar a wee bit more quality with Werner and Forsberg. Still hit the channels, still looked over the top and played on transitions. Not saying it wouldn’t work but when youve got talented players like Pulisic, Havertz (ok hes been pisspoor for a whole), Ziyech among others, then look at Southampton trying to break teams down when they go up against teams that defend... it isn’t exactly that good. Yes the quality of players maybe doesn’t help but again there isn’t much invention in the same way you see in other teams in the PL: Leeds are actually an excellent example of this. Thats why we need to find a coach who can get these boys into positions where they can break down teams using their qualities and not relying purely on the opposition leaving huge spaces for counters or due to losing it due to being pressed/sloppy on the ball. Might work for Southampton and has them flying but City, Liverpool, even United and Spurs at times have more to their make ups than that and ultimately we want to be competing with them/better than them.

I agree that he is not the ideal first choice manager for the club. I'd rather want Tuchel or Nagelsmann but his time at Leipzig was nothing short of a wonder. What you are saying is undermining the way they were playing. Leipzig relied on fast buildup one touch football, and they were known to be the football team that is the fastest in transition which is something we heavily lack at the moment. The likes of Keita, Forsberg, Werner etc were playing beautiful football under Hassenhuttl.

The only reason why I'd prefer a Nagelsmann or Tuchel is because of their flexibility. Hassenhuttl however would be a top manager in any big club in my opinion.

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

9 minutes ago, Milan said:

He knows that it works. If not this time, next time for sure. And a Liverpool player getting booked for diving, that notion made me laugh.

When you look at Utd, Spuds and Liverpool they all have sly players - Mane, Salah, Fernandes, Son, Lamela, players that wouldnt bat an eyelid to cheat if they can get away with it

We are nice guys, but could do with a bit of animal cunning to get back to winning ways

[Laylabelle 9,351]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

When you look at Utd, Spuds and Liverpool they all have sly players - Mane, Salah, Fernandes, Son, Lamela, players that wouldnt bat an eyelid to cheat if they can get away with it

We are nice guys, but could do with a bit of animal cunning to get back to winning ways

Without missing the penalties given..

[Jase 43,479]

Should Liverpool lose this, United can go top outright on January 12 before they go to Anfield...

[Milan 17,853]

7 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

When you look at Utd, Spuds and Liverpool they all have sly players - Mane, Salah, Fernandes, Son, Lamela, players that wouldnt bat an eyelid to cheat if they can get away with it

We are nice guys, but could do with a bit of animal cunning to get back to winning ways

And don't forget the king of them all - Kane. That's a proper bastard  

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

2 minutes ago, Milan said:

And don't forget the king of them all - Kane. That's a proper bastard  

Theres loads of 'em   - Maguire, Pogba, Alderweld, Dier - a lot of them actively looking to cheat

[Laylabelle 9,351]

6 minutes ago, Jason said:

Should Liverpool lose this, United can go top outright on January 12 before they go to Anfield...

How?! Thats crazy..suddenly really looking like contenders..dont want them to win it lol that be shite. 

[Fulham Broadway 16,832]

This does Lampard a favour - lots of topsy turvy results. And when you think Solskaer and Arteta were completely mocked and given the last rites a few weeks ago...

[Laylabelle 9,351]

If we hadn't had such a dive down we could be up there...

[Milan 17,853]

Oh wow the Austrian is crying, tears of joy.