The English Football Thread

[Laylabelle 9,395]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

Poor Cech... 

It is funny.. Wenger in. Out.. In.. Out... And repeat.. Theyre also guilty of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result

[BlueLyon 9,359]

6 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Liverpool were fabulous, took the game to a City side who are actually beatable despite popular belief.

Press high, work hard and you win games.

This is the golden rule of how to beat Pep or similar attacking teams.

These squads are fraud, sheep in wolf clothing. Looking marvelous and unbeatable when they have possesion but absolutely clueless under pressure. 

Reason why Pep is winning is because small teams close down and thats water on mill for Pep players. Teams like liverpool try attack but eventualy gas out. Top top teams destroy Pep teams (since his last barca season to be specific). 

Yet we and bunch of other quality sides defend whole game. Its literaly giving them the game on plate and hope we somehow score a fluke. Great example was juve vs bayern when juve attacked and bayern under Pep couldnt do shit, but then in the end they decided to park the bus and conceded two goals. 

This City team is perfect for PL demolition but they will crumble against top sides. I said it last week, Otamendi and Stones are so damn overrated and when they go against top opponents, 1v1 they will get raped. 

By no meaning City is bad team, they are five times better in attack, but you judge teams when they are under pressure, and city and also Pep today proved they are still the same old chicken team when you press them. 

I actualy belive city will run PL for a while, get finished in CL once they get someone better and after Pep leaves, the team will be left in big shock like Bayern because no other manager can handle attack like Pep and the defensive fragilities will get exposed. 

We are not on their level at all, but people saying Pep City is best team in europe should take a look again. Pep has no plan B and Stones, Otamendi, Sterling or Fernandinho under pressure when it realy matters turn into bang average. Otamendi and Fernandinho get rattled so quick, red card is always on the brink when they are losing badly.

Liverpool on other hand is playing beautiful beautiful offense, but they have little skill and experience to actualy finish the game on high. If they were more pragmatic at 4:1 it would be easier for them to win comfortably. 

I think if we added two quality players, we are equal. Most definately they have better attack and movement, but we actualy have defenders who can perform under pressure, we know how to adopt and we are efficient (at least we were 😂). This makes it harder for us in league games, but easier in elimination matches.

[DDA 9,689]

5 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

Already watched it. Troopz is fucking done fam!

[The Chels 2,502]

23 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Like I said, we simply don't have the players to do what Spuds and Liverpool do. As world class as Eden is, he's ain't pressing and running like a madman like Salah/Mané/Son etc do

Hazard doesn't press because he isn't instructed to. Mourinho and Conte are simply not pressing managers. The likes of Sane, Neymar, De Bruyne, Messi, Griezmann, etc. are not what you'd call "natural pressers" but they do it because that's what the system they play in demands.

[Unionjack 7,531]

13 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

I cheer myself up just knowing I'm not in north London!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

5 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Sick to fucking death of watching teams playing class football. We're miles behind...

Yes we could play more entertaining indeed.

But when you read and hear everywhere how quality is stones and otamendi and fernandinho, and then you see them roasted when they get under pressure, I laugh at city. 

So much for world class defenders. One gets outmucled by firmino like a doll and the other two agression freaks with zero composure when under pressure. 

Dont let their attack decive you how poor they actualy are when they are 1v1 or under pressure. 

Bunch of pretenders. Where is the football when top top teams actualy had quality players like Vieira, Scholes, Ferdinand,...

Remember this City will get spanked by either Barca, Bayern, Psg, Juve or even maybe Real althrough they are shit. 

Beating evertons and and west hams is one thing when they chicken out before the game starts and oppisition makes city players play the most comfortable way. 

Top teams will press the shit out of them and I look forward for the rape of Otamendi Stones and whoever pep throws because they while being good footballers are average defenders at best. 

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

25 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh well, I suggest we all cheer ourselves up with a dose of Arsenal Fan TV tonite, should be a blinder.

That's exactly what I'm doing now, LOL

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Finally the weakness of Stones and Otamendi has exposed.

Teams were afraid to attack city, like Conte played against them at the bridge...

[Pizy 18,454]

13 minutes ago, The Chels said:

Hazard doesn't press because he isn't instructed to. Mourinho and Conte are simply not pressing managers. The likes of Sane, Neymar, De Bruyne, Messi, Griezmann, etc. are not what you'd call "natural pressers" but they do it because that's what the system they play in demands.

That's certainly part of it but I also think it's just not in his character. He's an easy going, nonchalant player. Almost a bit lazy like Özil. Doesn't enjoy expending much energy without the ball. Even times when you see Conte yelling "Go! Go! Go!" on the touchline for our players to press up he does so halfheartedly.

[Azpinator 2,325]

50 minutes ago, xPetrCechx said:

Sick to fucking death of watching teams playing class football. We're miles behind...

Are we really?

Yes we have a couple of things to sort out in our attack, but on our day we can beat anyone. It was Liverpool's day, they also had something to prove after the whole Coutinho saga.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Are we really?
Yes we have a couple of things to sort out in our attack, but on our day we can beat anyone. It was Liverpool's day, they also had something to prove after the whole Coutinho saga.

Anyone?
Don't think so...

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[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

57 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Wenger in. Out.. In.. Out..

Shake it all about oh the Hokey Cokey.

[Laylabelle 9,395]

49 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

I cheer myself up just knowing I'm not in north London!

My mums from North London.. Luckily her grandad/my greatgrandad made the right choice in what club to follow... Otherwise probably be me raging away on Arsenal TV lol. 

[The Chels 2,502]

55 minutes ago, Pizy said:

That's certainly part of it but I also think it's just not in his character. He's an easy going, nonchalant player. Almost a bit lazy like Özil. Doesn't enjoy expending much energy without the ball. Even times when you see Conte yelling "Go! Go! Go!" on the touchline for our players to press up he does so halfheartedly.

 

Again I think it's because he knows it's just going to be a collective halfhearted press anyway. The opposition will make a few easy passes and play their way out of it, no matter how intense he goes for the press personally.

Can't remember the last time we suffocated a team over a long period, especially a big team. It's just not how we play but I've been desperate to see it for years. One day.

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

My mums from North London.. Luckily her grandad/my greatgrandad made the right choice in what club to follow... Otherwise probably be me raging away on Arsenal TV lol. 

Not like she chose to be born there tho. Some peeps actually choose to go there!

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

3 minutes ago, The Chels said:

Again I think it's because he knows it's just going to be a collective halfhearted press anyway. The opposition will play a few easy passes and be in our half, no matter how intense he goes for the press personally.

Can't remember the last time we suffocated a team, especially a big team. It's just not how we play but I've been desperate to see it for years. One day.

This. We just never follow through on our pressing. We always leave our opponent with easy passes backwards. 

The rare times we press it always seems like the purpose isn't to take the ball or force them to hoof the ball forward but just to chase them out of our half. 

Once our opponents are in their own half Conte stops yelling "go go go" and we just take up defensive positions again. 

 

[Strike 7,265]

People saying Man City have been exposed, they did make a spirited comeback to make the final score 4-3. It is an admirable trait about this City team that even when they are not having a good game, they've managed to keep their heads till the final whistle and play with composure in attack. Bailed them out many times.

They arent even like United years ago when they would put the opposition under a lot of pressure late on in games by crossing the ball into the box or hoofing it. The goals they've scored late have been patiently built and coolly finished under pressure like the Bernardo Silva goal today. 

[OneMoSalah 8,799]

I hate that I'm saying this but Liverpool were absolute class in the second half bar the goals they conceded. They killed City in those attacking situations. Imagine if they could defend. City will go to Newcastle and beat them 3 or 4-0 to get back into the swing of things but the likes of Burnley, Southampton and Liverpool have shown that, despite the attacking traits of their full backs and use of the ball their CBs have they are still more than average once guys are running in behind Fernandinho and turning Stones and Otamendi around. Brave way for LFC to approach that game too, because on a different day City could have cut through their pressing like a hot knife through butter.

Anyone else think Andy Robertson for 7-9M is looking pretty impressive? Always liked him from his days at Dundee United as a very talented player but was pretty surprised he made the move there in the summer although seeing some of the performances he put in for Hull and has now put in for Liverpool he would have been a very good low fee, good value signing here.