zolayes 14,489 Posted May 15, 2011 Share Posted May 15, 2011 1. You mean a Manager who could win year after year and if we were to go with a season without the title we should sack him and look for another manager who could bring us the "Stability"2. He is the same manager who won the Champions League twice in space of 5 seasons and almost won it the 3rd time in those 5 seasons. 3. So you basically expect Ancelottyi to fight in the ring with his hands tied at the back and top it all by expecting him to win it? Any title winning club has a BIG SQUAD. I am sure you are a fan of Mourinho, Count the no. of players in that squad and compare to our squad this season. Also, the reason we need a BIG SQUAD is cus titles are won over a period of an entire season. Something thats not acheivable by a squad of 16+3 GK and youthBtw under him we completed a Grand Slam of 6 out of 6 wins agaisnt the Big 4. Wonder what universe were you in when you mentioned his "deficiencies against Big teams"4. Can you explain what qualities Fergie showed when they went 3 season without the title and how different they were to Ancelotti's? With the hindsight its all good to say what you said about Fergie. But there have been fans like you who back then spoke of Fergie past his best and getting old and soft with players.5. I am sorry to burst your bubble, but you have no patience for going without a title for a season, cant see how you will bear a manager that goes without a title for 3 seasons. You will find faults in him to back your claim as to why we need another manager. I just dont get it when fans say, they would like Ancelotti to stay if he could motivate and be tactically astute and be good man manager, etc. And then add if he was that, they wouldnt mind Chelsea going trophyless. My argument is that, if he was that he would have won the title every season. No one can do that. Fergie went without title for 3 seasons does that mean he was an awful manager and bad tactically?well said ,,,but they take a lot of convincing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 well said ,,,but they take a lot of convincingHaHa...I can see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 2. He is the same manager who won the Champions League twice in space of 5 seasons and almost won it the 3rd time in those 5 seasons. He is also the same manager who won only 1 league in 14 years in Italy.He is also the same manager that AC Milan fans don't miss: you wont find Milan's supporters asking him to return in same way you see Chelsea's fans asking for Mourinho.Just read this Ancelotti's pool, only 31% of Milan supporters wanted Carlo as coach, and feel free to read other comments. It seems that he got more love here after two seasons than among Milan's fans after all those years:http://forum.acmilan...t=6620&page=221 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 When will people realise that this is not necessarily about result but the way we have achieved these unfavorable results Ancelotti would be 50 times more popular on here if our performance this season has reflected the quality of our squad and the club's ambition. if you play well, with gut,desire and determination and lose a match, only a cold blooded arsehole would criticize the manager after such a display as that demonstrates the ability to motivate and get the players firing on all cylinders.But when your team plays extremely badly and lose/draw, those two combination cannot be healthy for the fans. majority of our performance this season falls under the latter category which is totally unacceptable for a club like Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 When will people realise that this is not necessarily about result but the way we have achieved these unfavorable results Ancelotti would be 50 times more popular on here if our performance this season has reflected the quality of our squad and the club's ambition. if you play well, with gut,desire and determination and lose a match, only a cold blooded arsehole would criticize the manager after such a display as that demonstrates the ability to motivate and get the players firing on all cylinders.But when your team plays extremely badly and lose/draw, those two combination cannot be healthy for the fans. majority of our performance this season falls under the latter category which is totally unacceptable for a club like Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 This thread again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Chelsea has had its worst "bad spell" in years under carlotti with series of terrible/unforgivable performances to boot. if that's not a major cause for concern then I don't know what is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 This thread again.In one week it would be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,532 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 In one week it would be over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warnie_666 1,081 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Chelsea has had its worst "bad spell" in years under carlotti with series of terrible/unforgivable performances to boot. if that's not a major cause for concern then I don't know what isSo you expect him to show grit, drive, passion with a squad of 16+3 gks and youth over an entire season with key players like lampard who never gets injured out for 5 months and benayoun out for an entire season almost, add to that malaria to Drogba. Top it all by having his trusted assistant fired for reasons only gourlay knows.?You are demanding I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 In one week it would be over.Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So you expect him to show grit, drive, passion with a squad of 16+3 gks and youth over an entire season with key players like lampard who never gets injured out for 5 months and benayoun out for an entire season almost, add to that malaria to Drogba. Top it all by having his trusted assistant fired for reasons only gourlay knows.?You are demanding I must say.he has no idea ,,what Chelsea was like before Roman's money arrived Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 So you expect him to show grit, drive, passion with a squad of 16+3 gks and youth over an entire season with key players like lampard who never gets injured out for 5 months and benayoun out for an entire season almost, add to that malaria to Drogba. Top it all by having his trusted assistant fired for reasons only gourlay knows.?You are demanding I must say.I'm getting tired of repeating myself. once again injury to key players over the course of a season is inevitable in footie. no team can escape that. A sensible manager then must anticipate the worst and HAVE A MITIGATION PLAN in place to ensure this circumstances do not affect the team when it inevitably happens . that's common sense and i would expect even my 7 year old nephew to know these things let alone a 52 year old man with plenty of european experience. Lack of plan B is a sure road to failureInjury to Ferdinand,Valencia and Rooney's dressing room unrest didn't prevent man utd from clinching their 19th epl title and reaching the ucl final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 he has no idea ,,what Chelsea was like before Roman's money arrived I know the situation of the club pre Roman as I have supported the club my whole life so relax on the assumption MR CHELSEA FC. btw I see no relationship between your assertion and the issue being discussed.lack of better insight to contribute I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Ferguson has complete control over all transfers there ,,,Has Carlo the same here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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