Official - Carlo sacked

[Henrique 9,133]

Ancelotti has proven over the course of the season that he

1) Cannot motivate his team

2) Lacks tactical awareness and the ability to read his opponent/game and devise a strategy accordingly

3) Ability to change a game when it's heading towards a draw or defeat

4) Over reliant on age and experience even at the detriment of the teams performance and result

Yet some people want him to stay all in the name of stability. unbelievable

The problem is that nowadays keeping a manager is seen as the solution for everything.

Look at Arsenal, they are with Wenger in last 6 years, and they won nothing. Despite sacking all these managers we have 3 PL, many Cup trophies and reached one CL final.

So I don't know whats the point talking about stability...When Roman bought this club he was barely known outside England, now it sell millions of shirts around the club, players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry become world stars playing here, and Chelsea is considered when of the strongest clubs in Europe, the kind of ambitious players would like to go to. So, this club doesn't have "instability".

So, its really unfair people saying they will lose the faith on board if they sack Carlo. The work they are doing is fucking good. If Carlo is non longer compatible with Chelsea's goals and ambitions, so he must leave.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

The problem is that nowadays keeping a manager is seen as the solution for everything.

Look at Arsenal, they are with Wenger in last 6 years, and they won nothing. Despite sacking all these managers we have 3 PL, many Cup trophies and reached one CL final.

So I don't know whats the point talking about stability...When Roman bought this club he was barely known outside England, now it sell millions of shirts around the club, players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry become world stars playing here, and Chelsea is considered when of the strongest clubs in Europe, the kind of ambitious players would like to go to. So, this club doesn't have "instability".

So, its really unfair people saying they will lose the faith on board if they sack Carlo. The work they are doing is fucking good. If Carlo is non longer compatible with Chelsea's goals and ambitions, so he must leave.

You say Wenger, I say Ferguson..and if by being compatible you mean having to win a trophie every single year then you are spoilt. Although no disrespect to the Pensioners, but we are not in form Barcelona who can do that.

Atm this is nothing like Scolari case, Scolari was utterly bad, lost the backing of players - off he went. Carlo still has backing of the players, majority of the fans and has silverware to prove his compatibilty.

[warnie_666 1,081]

The problem is that nowadays keeping a manager is seen as the solution for everything.

Look at Arsenal, they are with Wenger in last 6 years, and they won nothing. Despite sacking all these managers we have 3 PL, many Cup trophies and reached one CL final.

So I don't know whats the point talking about stability...When Roman bought this club he was barely known outside England, now it sell millions of shirts around the club, players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry become world stars playing here, and Chelsea is considered when of the strongest clubs in Europe, the kind of ambitious players would like to go to. So, this club doesn't have "instability".

So, its really unfair people saying they will lose the faith on board if they sack Carlo. The work they are doing is fucking good. If Carlo is non longer compatible with Chelsea's goals and ambitions, so he must leave.

Really? Sacking Mou and having Grant there then Sacking Grant and having Scolari, thensacking Scolari and having Guss. Certainly the club board is doing a great job.

Why dont you look at Manchester United instead of Arsenal?

[Henrique 9,133]

Really? Sacking Mou and having Grant there then Sacking Grant and having Scolari, thensacking Scolari and having Guss. Certainly the club board is doing a great job.

Why dont you look at Manchester United instead of Arsenal?

Guys, lets forget Manchester. I always hear this kind of thing: SAF has been in MU more than 20 years.

He is a unique case. Look at every great club in the world and count how many managers they had in last 20 years. After Fergunson, I can tell you that Manchester won stick with the same manager for that long.

- Ok, Mourinho was sacked, what happened ? We reached the first CL in Chelsea's history.

- Sacked Grant, then Scolari came, we fired him, Guus came, what happened? If not for a idiot bald referee we would have reached another CL final, and we also won a FA Cup.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Guys, lets forget Manchester. I always hear this kind of thing: SAF has been in MU more than 20 years.

He is a unique case. Look at every great club in the world and count how many managers they had in last 20 years. After Fergunson, I can tell you that Manchester won stick with the same manager for that long.

- Ok, Mourinho was sacked, what happened ? We reached the first CL in Chelsea's history.

- Sacked Grant, then Scolari came, we fired him, Guus came, what happened? If not for a idiot bald referee we would have reached another CL final, and we also won a FA Cup.

A bit hypocrite isn't it, mate? You're the one who brought up the Wenger topic

In the end of the day, we cant go on cyclying managers like socks, it doesen't work like that. There is a reason why Man Utd always are a threat to be reckoned with, it's their stability which SAF has brought with his reign.Keeping a manager might not bring us luck right away but I've got time, have you?

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Can see whats gana happen though,sack Ancelotti,get someone else.All starts off well.Starts to go wrong...doubters come in...if its all good come end of the season they'll be kept on for probably another year.If they do crap..offskis they go and we're in the look again,forking out more dosh....

Give him a decent assistant manager,let him serve the last year on his contract..be nice to have a manager whole serves the whole things makes a change.Save the money and either extend it the year after or let him go..if he doesnt retire and all depending hows he's done..never know

Never gana happen mind...the manager merry go round no doubt go o..and get to a point where managers look at it and thinks whats the point in going there if your just going to get sacked soon as it goes a bit downhill

[SinineUltra 1,170]

Can see whats gana happen though,sack Ancelotti,get someone else.All starts off well.Starts to go wrong...doubters come in...if its all good come end of the season they'll be kept on for probably another year.If they do crap..offskis they go and we're in the look again,forking out more dosh....

Give him a decent assistant manager,let him serve the last year on his contract..be nice to have a manager whole serves the whole things makes a change.Save the money and either extend it the year after or keep him on depending hows he's done..never know

Never gana happen mind...the manager merry go round no doubt go o..and get to a point where managers look at it and thinks whats the point in going there if your just going to get sacked soon as it goes a bit downhill

If this doesn't explain it, i dont know what will

[lionsden 4,689]

I respect your opinion but i strongly disagree. This is about something more than just keeping a manager for the sake of stability, this is about finally developing a unit, a team that has played together longer than a year.. CA might have made a few tactical blunders but you are quick to forget that he has been behind much more positive than negative, much has happened that has made our form dip and i blame those factors not Ancelotti. Drogba's malaria, numerous of injuries for key players, Carlo's father's death, departure of several key players from last season, lack of depth in the squad, aging players. do i need to continue?unbelievable

You left out osama bin laden's death, the rise of unemployment, inflation, financial bubble and the price of pasta in Italy

On a serious note. a great manager must be able to make the best use of his resources no matter how limited and as the saying goes, a bad workman blames his tools

look at fergie, many pundit argued that this is the weakest man utd team since the pl started in 92 and yet he is able to INSPIRE them to 19th epl title and UCL final. a skill that's not synonymous with carlo

Injuries to key players are part and parcel of footie. it's always inevitable and therefore the manager holds the responsibility to anticipate this and many more unforeseen circumstances (in other word, expect the worse) and have a mitigation plan in place. Yet again he failed in that regard and should be held accountable.

To your point about lack of depth and aging players, which again correlates with the point I made above.. If I may ask, whose responsibility is it to ensure the squad is in a shape to compete for the title before the season unfolds?

[Henrique 9,133]

Can see whats gana happen though,sack Ancelotti,get someone else.All starts off well.Starts to go wrong...doubters come in...if its all good come end of the season they'll be kept on for probably another year.If they do crap..offskis they go and we're in the look again,forking out more dosh....

Give him a decent assistant manager,let him serve the last year on his contract..be nice to have a manager whole serves the whole things makes a change.Save the money and either extend it the year after or let him go..if he doesnt retire and all depending hows he's done..never know

Never gana happen mind...the manager merry go round no doubt go o..and get to a point where managers look at it and thinks whats the point in going there if your just going to get sacked soon as it goes a bit downhill

The problem with Carlo is his peform in Italy. If he was another manager I would probably support him staying, but I know his job since his Milans days.

[SinineUltra 1,170]

You left out osama bin laden's death, the rise of unemployment, inflation, financial bubble and the price of pasta in Italy

On a serious note. a great manager must be able to make the best use of his resources no matter how limited and as the saying goes, a bad workman blames his tools

look at fergie, many pundit argued that this is the weakest man utd team since the pl started in 92 and yet is able to INSPIRE them to 19th epl title and UCL final. a skill that's not synonymous with carlo

Injuries to key players are part and parcel of footie. it's always inevitable and therefore the manager holds the responsibility to anticipate this and many more unforeseen circumstances (in other word, expect the worse) and have a mitigation plan in place. Yet again he failed in that regard

To your point about lack of depth and aging players. If I may ask, whose responsibility is it to ensure the squad is in a shape to compete for the title before the season unfolds?

1) I left out departure of Wilkins, you can add that to your list

2)I agree, injuries are part of footie but they do affect the team, right? Especially if influential team players get sidelined.

3) Valid point, but in order to buy, you need funds, thats for one. Secondly, letting go Cole, Ballack, Deco, Belletti takes its toll - they are high calibre players that are hard to replace.

[lionsden 4,689]

The problem is that nowadays keeping a manager is seen as the solution for everything.

Look at Arsenal, they are with Wenger in last 6 years, and they won nothing. Despite sacking all these managers we have 3 PL, many Cup trophies and reached one CL final.

So I don't know whats the point talking about stability...When Roman bought this club he was barely known outside England, now it sell millions of shirts around the club, players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry become world stars playing here, and Chelsea is considered when of the strongest clubs in Europe, the kind of ambitious players would like to go to. So, this club doesn't have "instability".

So, its really unfair people saying they will lose the faith on board if they sack Carlo. The work they are doing is fucking good. If Carlo is non longer compatible with Chelsea's goals and ambitions, so he must leave.

:goodpost:

If it ain't broke, why fix it?

I'm with you on that we should never accept mediocrity for the sake of stability or fuckever. when did standards drop so low amongst Chelsea fans?

[eldo 868]

It's a shame Andre Villas-Boas is staying at Porto.

It was obvious that he would stay there.

Remember, money talks

Managing a club you love means more.

[eldo 868]

The problem is that nowadays keeping a manager is seen as the solution for everything.

Look at Arsenal, they are with Wenger in last 6 years, and they won nothing. Despite sacking all these managers we have 3 PL, many Cup trophies and reached one CL final.

So I don't know whats the point talking about stability...When Roman bought this club he was barely known outside England, now it sell millions of shirts around the club, players like Drogba, Lampard and Terry become world stars playing here, and Chelsea is considered when of the strongest clubs in Europe, the kind of ambitious players would like to go to. So, this club doesn't have "instability".

So, its really unfair people saying they will lose the faith on board if they sack Carlo. The work they are doing is fucking good. If Carlo is non longer compatible with Chelsea's goals and ambitions, so he must leave.

Carlo knows Chelsea's ambitions.

Tell me "Mr knows it all", those big clubs never had an off season?

You like to change your analyses quite often.

Few days ago you told us that we are doing bad job with explanation how Red nose and his tools are playing third cl final in four years and we are doing bad in CL.

Is that your profession really? Because I think that you shoud analyse yourself and your skills too, before you can talk about someone else.

[lionsden 4,689]

Can see whats gana happen though,sack Ancelotti,get someone else.All starts off well.Starts to go wrong...doubters come in...if its all good come end of the season they'll be kept on for probably another year.If they do crap..offskis they go and we're in the look again,forking out more dosh....

Give him a decent assistant manager,let him serve the last year on his contract..be nice to have a manager whole serves the whole things makes a change.Save the money and either extend it the year after or let him go..if he doesnt retire and all depending hows he's done..never know

Never gana happen mind...the manager merry go round no doubt go o..and get to a point where managers look at it and thinks whats the point in going there if your just going to get sacked soon as it goes a bit downhill

I want stability just as much as you do but with the right manager

The problem with your logc is that Ancelotti has never been a master tactician and has never demonstrated the ability to disprove that criticism. Is this not the same manager that lost a 3 nil lead to liverpool in the UCL final?

His defeciences were apparent last season especially against the big teams but were masked by the superior squad depth and key players retaining their form and staying largely injury free. When he couldn't enjoy the same luxury anymore, his abysmal tactical nous was exposed clearly for the whole world to see.

Fergie for example has demonstrated his skills over and over again to earn him the immunity he has enjoyed over the years. Ancelotti on the other hand has never shown such ability. my case his simple, when chelsea recruits a proven manager who has demonstrated his quality beyond any reasonable doubt, I will show 100% confidence in him even if we go 3 years without a trophy

[lionsden 4,689]

The problem with Carlo is his peform in Italy. If he was another manager I would probably support him staying, but I know his job since his Milans days.

You basically summarized the point I was trying to stress to laylabelle. You are a legend my man :tophat: