Edinson Cavani

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

So £53m for another striker and people are begging Roman to get his credit card out again.. Has nobody learnt anything from Torres, Shevchenko?! Hell, even Drogba was shit for a while. Throwing obscene amounts of money at a player doesn't guarantee anything. Sick of it to be honest.

your right, we should never sign a striker for big money again because obviously he is doomed to fail...because thats how it works, we're cursed?

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your right, we should never sign a striker for big money again because obviously he is doomed to fail...because thats how it works, we're cursed?

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

[Toli 977]

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

its not about "spending big"..its about strengthen the squad where is need to do. also, why should we care how we are seen? most people will always see us as the abramovich-cash-cow so who cares? also we dont talk about buying 10 players. we need maybe one DM, one really good Striker and thats already it. we could add 1-2 players for depth in squad and that would be it.

also strikers are expensive..and especially if Madrid and City want them too. we have no striker anywhere near Cavanis quality so we need to try our outmost to get him. also with a more flashy team, we could get better sponsorship deals, more fans etc > more profit.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

Why do you care about profit? the only person who should care about profit at Chelsea is Roman and he got no interest or intention of doing that if it mean we suffer on the field. Like many have already said, Cavani is at his peak right now unlike the previous 2 examples you said who were both going down hill. Madrid made many mistakes like Kaka, Owen and a shit load of others. If they were afraid like us they would have never been able to sign the likes of Zidane, Ronaldo and so on....

My point is no one here is asking us to go back to 2003 spending and buy 11 new players, we all want to have a top class striker in our book and even if Cavani and Schurrle are the only 2 signings this summer we will make, almost everyone will be satisfy with it. And it is not like the club don't want him either, we already bid £45-£50m for him anyway, if we see him that good why not go like £5m-£10m more to seal the deal because it is not like we don't have cash. We are not talking about signing Messi for £250m.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

You're definitely not alone in that. I'm not saying we should copy Arsenal but there's a middle ground between chasing £50 million strikers and shopping in the bargain bins, and the funny thing is we seem to be pretty fucking good at spotting value. Mata was relatively cheap but he's been a revelation. Azpi was about £7 million but it's conceivable that we've locked up the right-back spot for the next five years, maybe more. Then there's the likes of De Bruyne and Courtois who are worth at least triple what we bought them for. Even Lukaku looks like being a bargain in hindsight.

Personally I'd be happy never going above the fee we paid for Hazard in terms of marquee signings, whilst continuing the policy of buying young and looking to develop that talent both in-house and through loan deals.

If you look at our record transfer fees over the last 20 or so years, it doesn't look good for Cavani. We've broken the record to sign Fleck, Furlong, Casiraghi, Sutton, Hasselbaink, Drogba, Shevchenko and Torres.

FOUR of those players were arguably unmitigated flops, two were meh (Casiraghi's injury was harsh and Sutton was shit, but we managed to sell him on for only a £4 million loss). Hasselbaink was a success in a weird period for us and Drogba became something of a legend BUT in his first two seasons, when we won the league no less, he scored less than a dozen league goals in each. Lukaku scored 17 last season.

Why do you care about profit? the only person who should care about profit at Chelsea is Roman and he got no interest or intention of doing that if it mean we suffer on the field. Like many have already said, Cavani is at his peak right now unlike the previous 2 examples you said who were both going down hill.

Two things - people want to see the club self-sufficient and healthy. Yes we have Roman but the guy has done more than enough for this club and I don't want us to have to be relient on him forever, which is why fiscal responsibility and the stadium are such key issues. Yes it's great now, but this club isn't just for us to enjoy. It's for the people who come after us. People before you and I fought to keep this club alive yet there are some people who are happy to run around like a madman with the credit card.

The other point is about Cavani and his peak - if he's at his peak, then by definition the only way is down for him. We've actually spent the last couple of seasons buying players on their way up. It's been far more sensible in my opinion.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Let's see how much top strikers in Europe cost nowadays:

Aguero £40m

Falcao £51m

Ronaldo £80m

Van Persie £24m

Mario Gomez cost Bayern £30m or so at the time

Dzeko £30m

Tevez £25m

Ibra £20m to Milan and £15m to PSG

and others...

Other strikers who will be costing a lot too:

Jovetic £20m min

Higuain £20-£25m

Mario Gomez £15-£20m

Hell even David Villa who had been in terrible form is going to cost any club wanting him £10-£15m

You get what you pay for...quality. And Cavani got more quality than all of these players who are up for sale atm so he is worth his price tag.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Two things - people want to see the club self-sufficient and healthy. Yes we have Roman but the guy has done more than enough for this club and I don't want us to have to be relient on him forever, which is why fiscal responsibility and the stadium are such key issues. Yes it's great now, but this club isn't just for us to enjoy. It's for the people who come after us. People before you and I fought to keep this club alive yet there are some people who are happy to run around like a madman with the credit card.

The other point is about Cavani and his peak - if he's at his peak, then by definition the only way is down for him. We've actually spent the last couple of seasons buying players on their way up. It's been far more sensible in my opinion.

We are slowly moving away from relying on him but not yet and you want to be self-sufficient? Look across London to Arsenal and Spurs, now you want that don't you? And Arsenal have a much better stadium+higher revenue.

Tell me a striker who have potential to become as good as Cavani(Which is one of the best in the world) in 1-2 years? Don't say Lukaku because we got him.

[The only place to be 11,313]

also strikers are expensive..and especially if Madrid and City want them too. we have no striker anywhere near Cavanis quality so we need to try our outmost to get him. also with a more flashy team, we could get better sponsorship deals, more fans etc > more profit.

The two teams in the Champions League Final started with strikers who cost less than we spent on Shaun Wright-Philips.

We won two league titles with a striker named Didier Drogba who scored less than a dozen goals in each season.

This fascination.....no, obsession some people have with us buying the most expensive striker around is bewildering sometimes.

Let's see how much top strikers in Europe cost nowadays:

Aguero £40m

Falcao £51m

Ronaldo £80m

Van Persie £24m

Mario Gomez cost Bayern £30m or so at the time

Dzeko £30m

Tevez £25m

Ibra £20m to Milan and £15m to PSG

and others...

Other strikers who will be costing a lot too:

Jovetic £20m min

Higuain £20-£25m

Mario Gomez £15-£20m

Hell even David Villa who had been in terrible form is going to cost any club wanting him £10-£15m

You get what you pay for...quality. And Cavani got more quality than all of these players who are up for sale atm so he is worth his price tag.

You left off the two strikers who started the Champions League Final.

Madzukic - £12 million

Lewandowski - £4.5 million

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We are going to buy him. Roman will pay.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

The two teams in the Champions League Final started with strikers who cost less than we spent on Shaun Wright-Philips.

We won two league titles with a striker named Didier Drogba who scored less than a dozen goals in each season.

This fascination.....no, obsession some people have with us buying the most expensive striker around is bewildering sometimes.

You left off the two strikers who started the Champions League Final.

Madzukic - £12 million

Lewandowski - £4.5 million

Yes but unfortunately we don't have anyone atm. And Lewandowski was only discovered because Dortmund couldn't afford any striker that are more expensive. Mandzukic was really bought as a back-up for Gomez and because he was injuried until new year, so it was only an unexpected success. Are you telling me you are willing to have Lukaku starting over Cavani just because Cavani cost a lot of money?

And for your point about Drogba, yes we did but we only won 3 league titles, wonder why? 1 is because he was on fire, the other 2 was because of Jose's genius and we played shut-out football super effectively. That won't work anymore nowadays. We mostly won cups because he was always there to save us, now he is gone no one is stepping up.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Tell me a striker who have potential to become as good as Cavani(Which is one of the best in the world) in 1-2 years? Don't say Lukaku because we got him.

Benteke could be.

Personally I think we can win the league with what we have up front now, if we strengthen in other areas. We won the league with Drogba scoring less than a dozen goals (I know I'm repeating myself but it's important) because we had goals in other areas, and a solid defence.

Getting a 20 goal-a-season striker isn't the only way to build a team capable of winning the league, especially when you have players like Hazard and Mata.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

People don't want Cavani, this is like saying we don't know how to drive a car really well so we shouldn't get an Audi even though we got money.