Edinson Cavani

[The Skipper 20,593]

Actually we are if Marin and Torres are sold/loan out. Backup gk is NOT NEEDED, Blackman can play there and we will recall Courtois next season so seem pretty silly to buy a GK who will only stay for one season and play cup matches. We will get a DM too, Van Ginkel is one himself in case you didn't know...CB there are a few around and we will probably get one like Mangala. CF is Jovetic/Gomez/Cavani, we will get one of them too no matter what. So we will hit all these targets

So you're telling me if Cech was injured for 2 months you'd be comfortable with Blackman deputising for him? I certainly wouldn't.

We definitely need a decent 2nd choice GK.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

So you're telling me if Cech was injured for 2 months you'd be comfortable with Blackman deputising for him? I certainly wouldn't.

We definitely need a decent 2nd choice GK.

Well that is why we should put a recall clause in Courtois's loan contract with Atletico then and that we can recall him at any time we want in the season. And if Cech was injuried and rule out for 2 months then that is the end of his starting Chelsea career I am afraid, he will sit on the bench even if he get his fitness back because Courtois will start regularly from 2013-14 season or he will leave which the board won't allow. Either way I doubt the club will sign any new no2, all the good ones like Cesar, Fulham GK...etc won't come to sit on the bench. So we will end up signing someone like Turnbull again which would be stupid seeing we just let him leave.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Well that is why we should put a recall clause in Courtois's loan contract with Atletico then and that we can recall him at any time we want in the season. And if Cech was injuried and rule out for 2 months then that is the end of his starting Chelsea career I am afraid, he will sit on the bench even if he get his fitness back because Courtois will start regularly from 2013-14 season or he will leave which the board won't allow. Either way I doubt the club will sign any new no2, all the good ones like Cesar, Fulham GK...etc won't come to sit on the bench. So we will end up signing someone like Turnbull again which would be stupid seeing we just let him leave.

There are plenty of decent number 2s out there, you just have to look across the PL and you'll see that. United have Lindegaard, City have Pantillimon, Spurs have Friedel, Arsenal have Fabianski, Stoke have Sorensen, QPR had Rob Green... That's just from the top of my head as well. There is no reason we shouldn't be able to find a competent 2nd choice goalkeeper, especially one that's better than Turnbull.

[adunolaeni 6]

Chelsea back out from signing Edmison Cavani.

www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10119481/Chelsea-refuse-to-take-part-in-bid-war-for-53m-Edinson-Cavani-and-turn-attentions-to-Robert-Lewandowski.html

[Mouri_Matic 560]

There are plenty of decent number 2s out there, you just have to look across the PL and you'll see that. United have Lindegaard, City have Pantillimon, Spurs have Friedel, Arsenal have Fabianski, Stoke have Sorensen, QPR had Rob Green... That's just from the top of my head as well. There is no reason we shouldn't be able to find a competent 2nd choice goalkeeper, especially one that's better than Turnbull.

But is he going to stay for one year only? Would anyone accept that? Cech and Courtois will always be ahead of him from 2013-14 no matter who he is.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Actually we are if Marin and Torres are sold/loan out. Backup gk is NOT NEEDED, Blackman can play there and we will recall Courtois next season so seem pretty silly to buy a GK who will only stay for one season and play cup matches. We will get a DM too, Van Ginkel is one himself in case you didn't know...CB there are a few around and we will probably get one like Mangala. CF is Jovetic/Gomez/Cavani, we will get one of them too no matter what. So we will hit all these targets

Yeahhhhhhh....I don't see that happening...

[Special Juan 27,528]

We are close to being on topic.

[Cosmin 2,484]

63m? Better add another 30 and buy Bale. He can play as a striker, midfielder, defender, goalkeeper, coach, supporter, steward etc.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

63m? Better add another 30 and buy Bale. He can play as a striker, midfielder, defender, goalkeeper, coach, supporter, steward etc.

Tottenham won't sell bale to us. Modric saga thought us that.

Bale prefers hazards position and potentially hazard > bale

And bale 93mil?

[Mouri_Matic 560]

63m? Better add another 30 and buy Bale. He can play as a striker, midfielder, defender, goalkeeper, coach, supporter, steward etc.

So Bale 93m hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahha, might as well sign Ronaldo instead, offer him £300k per week because if we sign Bale we will have to offer him £200k min anyway.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Calm your tits, lads, it was a joke.

[gr123 167]

So £53m for another striker and people are begging Roman to get his credit card out again.. Has nobody learnt anything from Torres, Shevchenko?! Hell, even Drogba was shit for a while. Throwing obscene amounts of money at a player doesn't guarantee anything. Sick of it to be honest.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

So £53m for another striker and people are begging Roman to get his credit card out again.. Has nobody learnt anything from Torres, Shevchenko?! Hell, even Drogba was shit for a while. Throwing obscene amounts of money at a player doesn't guarantee anything. Sick of it to be honest.

your right, we should never sign a striker for big money again because obviously he is doomed to fail...because thats how it works, we're cursed?

[gr123 167]

your right, we should never sign a striker for big money again because obviously he is doomed to fail...because thats how it works, we're cursed?

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

[Toli 977]

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

its not about "spending big"..its about strengthen the squad where is need to do. also, why should we care how we are seen? most people will always see us as the abramovich-cash-cow so who cares? also we dont talk about buying 10 players. we need maybe one DM, one really good Striker and thats already it. we could add 1-2 players for depth in squad and that would be it.

also strikers are expensive..and especially if Madrid and City want them too. we have no striker anywhere near Cavanis quality so we need to try our outmost to get him. also with a more flashy team, we could get better sponsorship deals, more fans etc > more profit.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

Why do you care about profit? the only person who should care about profit at Chelsea is Roman and he got no interest or intention of doing that if it mean we suffer on the field. Like many have already said, Cavani is at his peak right now unlike the previous 2 examples you said who were both going down hill. Madrid made many mistakes like Kaka, Owen and a shit load of others. If they were afraid like us they would have never been able to sign the likes of Zidane, Ronaldo and so on....

My point is no one here is asking us to go back to 2003 spending and buy 11 new players, we all want to have a top class striker in our book and even if Cavani and Schurrle are the only 2 signings this summer we will make, almost everyone will be satisfy with it. And it is not like the club don't want him either, we already bid £45-£50m for him anyway, if we see him that good why not go like £5m-£10m more to seal the deal because it is not like we don't have cash. We are not talking about signing Messi for £250m.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I appreciate that there are many people who want to see Chelsea spend money like it's 2003 again but there are a few of us who would to see the club turn a profit occasionly, and been seen as a real force by building a great team rather than because we've spent another £100m in the transfer window.

You're definitely not alone in that. I'm not saying we should copy Arsenal but there's a middle ground between chasing £50 million strikers and shopping in the bargain bins, and the funny thing is we seem to be pretty fucking good at spotting value. Mata was relatively cheap but he's been a revelation. Azpi was about £7 million but it's conceivable that we've locked up the right-back spot for the next five years, maybe more. Then there's the likes of De Bruyne and Courtois who are worth at least triple what we bought them for. Even Lukaku looks like being a bargain in hindsight.

Personally I'd be happy never going above the fee we paid for Hazard in terms of marquee signings, whilst continuing the policy of buying young and looking to develop that talent both in-house and through loan deals.

If you look at our record transfer fees over the last 20 or so years, it doesn't look good for Cavani. We've broken the record to sign Fleck, Furlong, Casiraghi, Sutton, Hasselbaink, Drogba, Shevchenko and Torres.

FOUR of those players were arguably unmitigated flops, two were meh (Casiraghi's injury was harsh and Sutton was shit, but we managed to sell him on for only a £4 million loss). Hasselbaink was a success in a weird period for us and Drogba became something of a legend BUT in his first two seasons, when we won the league no less, he scored less than a dozen league goals in each. Lukaku scored 17 last season.

Why do you care about profit? the only person who should care about profit at Chelsea is Roman and he got no interest or intention of doing that if it mean we suffer on the field. Like many have already said, Cavani is at his peak right now unlike the previous 2 examples you said who were both going down hill.

Two things - people want to see the club self-sufficient and healthy. Yes we have Roman but the guy has done more than enough for this club and I don't want us to have to be relient on him forever, which is why fiscal responsibility and the stadium are such key issues. Yes it's great now, but this club isn't just for us to enjoy. It's for the people who come after us. People before you and I fought to keep this club alive yet there are some people who are happy to run around like a madman with the credit card.

The other point is about Cavani and his peak - if he's at his peak, then by definition the only way is down for him. We've actually spent the last couple of seasons buying players on their way up. It's been far more sensible in my opinion.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Let's see how much top strikers in Europe cost nowadays:

Aguero £40m

Falcao £51m

Ronaldo £80m

Van Persie £24m

Mario Gomez cost Bayern £30m or so at the time

Dzeko £30m

Tevez £25m

Ibra £20m to Milan and £15m to PSG

and others...

Other strikers who will be costing a lot too:

Jovetic £20m min

Higuain £20-£25m

Mario Gomez £15-£20m

Hell even David Villa who had been in terrible form is going to cost any club wanting him £10-£15m

You get what you pay for...quality. And Cavani got more quality than all of these players who are up for sale atm so he is worth his price tag.