Azpinator 2,325 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I don't remember Holland ever doing anything internationally or have i missed where they actually won a world cup? Oh wait... nah the last tournament they played was Euro 2012 where they lost 3 out of 3, NICE! Ok they made a World Cup final recently but in reality, they played against a pretty poor Brazil in the Semi's and didn't even play that well to get there. Then in the final, all they did was kick Spain off the park. Holland are the real flops of international football. 1- You're English, and back in 2010 would I judge England by their performances in Euro 08, sorry, Euro 08 qualifiers? Hell no.2- Ironically, Brazil was the Confederations Cup title holder back then. I wouldn't call them poor.3- They played in a balanced way during that final, created 2 deadly chances to kill the game in the 2nd half. If Robben had scored and they became champions we'd be having a different argument here. Say for example, with the way we played Bayern last year, would you say we kicked Bayern off the park had we lost that match and that Chelsea are club football flops for losing 2 CL finals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Also if memory doesn't fail me, Netherlands played Brazil in the quarters... not in the SF Azpinator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I dont think you will make out of group stage.(Sorry)We're better than Russia and England lool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Blue Roar and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 England home of 57,000,000 people.Invented footballWon a single World Cup in 1966, the only WC final they've ever been inNever been to Euro finalHad one of the greatest golden generations of the last 20 years which amounted to nothingNetherlands home of 16,000,000 peoplelost three World Cup finalsWon one Euro in 1988, the only Euro final they've been inNot bad for a country of one third of the size. I'd say England are the real flops. Peace. and Azpinator 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 It's not really easy for me to argue the toss because i know England are shit and always will be and i don't even feel that gutted when we get knocked out of these tournaments as i like to see the best matches and teams go head to head in the later stages. England have a lot of people and the best league in the world so should do better. Country population doesn't necessarily mean they are all English though, i mean i don't even see England anymore when i go outside! And we also have a lot of Sport preferences like Rugby and Cricket amongst others too. The Brazil's, Spain's, Holland's and Germany's of this world teach their youngsters football better and care more about their youth set ups domestically. I'm surprised we're actually as good as we are as we seem to only invest in foreigners nowadays. It will probably get worse before it ever gets better, maybe the FFP rules will help bring the youth through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Teams to look out in 2014, in order of favoritism:1) Germany2) Brazil3) Spain4) Argentina5) Italy6) Belgium7) England8) France9) Colombia10) Russia11) UruguayThanks for missing out my country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thanks for missing out my country. I know, I know, I forgot about you! SORRY! But, as I was talking with Choulo...I believe you guys are in transition mode and I dont see a collective team - only a set of great players playing individually and with big egos. Also, I think your NT is very similar to Brazil 2006!I do have to say Holland always impresses me with the amount of spectacular players you produce versus your population. Really amazing! The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 I know, I know, I forgot about you! SORRY! But, as I was talking with Choulo...I believe you guys are in transition mode and I dont see a collective team - only a set of great players playing individually and with big egos. Also, I think your NT is very similar to Brazil 2006!I do have to say Holland always impresses me with the amount of spectacular players you produce versus your population. Really amazing!isn't it the same with England? Every week they hand someone new a debut cap. Just a big squad. No core team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Should I watch England vs Scotland or Belgium vs France? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyzz 711 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cant wait for all the important matches today... Well, Belgium vs. France should be the most interesting one Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Should I watch England vs Scotland or Belgium vs France?Belgium France of course. Much higher standard. NishC300 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Is Belgium vs France on TV anywhere in the UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 All four Chelsea players start for Belgium, nice. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Cleverley again. Seriously, Roy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Roy went for the United players again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Roy went for the United players again And? I've fallen out of the national team for months now, but if it's filled with United/Arsenal players with the kickoff season round the corner, I'm not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,904 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Four of our boys in the Belgium starting XI I see. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Belgium - France, HD stream:http://weeb.tv/channel/polsat_sport_extra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Kdb and Hazard .... Drool!! Having a good start, those two! Edited August 14, 2013 by Stingray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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