Ramires

[LDN Blue 7,903]

He has nothing left to offer - sad to say but footballers also need intelligence - and he has none!

He's a mid-table / smaller club player - Norwich/Newcastle etc

He should not start another Chelsea game! I used to be his biggest fan - but we have now outgrown him - time for him to move on...

Out in the summer: (must) - save the wages and take £50 million for the lot...

Ramires

Moses

Marin

Mikele

(Nice) - if we get other strikers (try and get £15 million for both)

Torres

BA

That gives us £65 million and any prize money - about a total of £80'million to spend on 2 Strikers and 1 midfielder...

Some extraordinary overreaching on those sums mate. If Ramires was to be sold we'd not get even £15m. Marin, Moses and Mikel will go for less than £10m per. You've got about £25-30? Ba's going for peanuts, probably £7m like we paid and Torres will probably go out on loan, because I don't see anyone giving us what we'll value him at (in an attempt to recoup some of what we paid)

[Muzchap 8,966]

Some extraordinary overreaching on those sums mate. If Ramires was to be sold we'd not get even £15m. Marin, Moses and Mikel will go for less than £10m per. You've got about £25-30? Ba's going for peanuts, probably £7m like we paid and Torres will probably go out on loan, because I don't see anyone giving us what we'll value him at (in an attempt to recoup some of what we paid)

Yeah I'm hoping a CL win inflates prices a little

If Torres and Andy Carroll combined were £85 million - a man can dream

[Sidzeret 2,257]

Didn't Madrid bid for him in January? I think we told them to fuck off

[haranr 485]

Must be sold or kept on the bench reguarly. Hasn't been good enough for 2 years.

[Polo7 3,496]

Our Brazilian players have really been poor for the best part of 2014 (Luiz probably the better of the 3). What the fucks wrong with em.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Our Brazilian players have really been poor for the best part of 2014 (Luiz probably the better of the 3). What the fucks wrong with em.

Most players in the Brazil NT are overrated nowadays. They are going through a lean spell in terms of REAL quality.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

The general consensus about Rami, at least around here, is so different of that of our manager. Ramires is still a nailed on starter and a very important key player to us according to Jose.

[ZOS 580]

Under jose, he has lost whatever footballing brain he'd left. IMO, he's spent all the change for the 11/12 UCL heroics ... send him packing

[iseah100 5,612]

Send him to Inter. Swap Ramires for Guarin.

[Oscar 441]

At Madrid, Jose had a few guys playing villian roles for the team.

Pepe, Khedira and Ramos. it seems like the villian role is now with ramires and Luiz would get it as well if he was a starter... As a poster alluded to, I think a lot of ramires actions has to do with Jose as the manager....

[lionsden 4,689]

Most players in the Brazil NT are overrated nowadays. They are going through a lean spell in terms of REAL quality.

None of the current crop bar Thiago Silva, would get into the team of the past.

In the 90's and 2000s Brazil could boast of players like Ronaldo, Romario, Rivaldo, cafu, Carlos, Ronaldinho, Dunga, Prime kaka. (That's 5 WPOTY winners right there) from that to this overrated lot.

[Oscar 441]

None of the current crop bar Thiago Silva, would get into the team of the past.

In the 90's and 2000s Brazil could boast of players like Ronaldo, Romario, Rivaldo, cafu, Carlos, Ronaldinho, Dunga, Prime kaka. (That's 5 WPOTY winners right there) from that to this overrated lot.

Europe's best players wouldn't get on Brazil 90s -00s team except Oliver Kahn and the italians/French (Maldini, Nesta, Fabio, Thuram, Viera)....

[Beigl 1,387]

He might not have his best season but I can't understand the people who call for his head and want him out of the club.Altough in this form he shouldn't be in our starting XI (doesn't speak for our quality in DM does it?) I think he would be a very good squad player and could put a good shift in against better sides,away from home in particular.

There are other players in our team that we need to get rid of before Ramires.

[bethos1 802]

He might not have his best season but I can't understand the people who call for his head and want him out of the club.Altough in this form he shouldn't be in our starting XI (doesn't speak for our quality in DM does it?) I think he would be a very good squad player and could put a good shift in against better sides,away from home in particular.

There are other players in our team that we need to get rid of before Ramires.

If I had the choice I would only keep Matic and MVG of our current CM's, the others really aren't good enough to play for Chelsea.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

If I had the choice I would only keep Matic and MVG of our current CM's, the others really aren't good enough to play for Chelsea.

Lamps is still a good player and Luiz is more than useful in that position. Ramires is currently our worst midfielder alongside Mikel.

[bethos1 802]

Lamps is still a good player and Luiz is more than useful in that position. Ramires is currently our worst midfielder alongside Mikel.

Forgot about Luiz, not really sure what to with him but if we get a nice offer we should probably sell him. Lampard isn't that good anymore, I'd prefer we'd give our youth a chance instead of him. Matic, MVG, Chalobah and 1 more CM that's what I'd like to see next season.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Forgot about Luiz, not really sure what to with him but if we get a nice offer we should probably sell him. Lampard isn't that good anymore, I'd prefer we'd give our youth a chance instead of him. Matic, MVG, Chalobah and 1 more CM that's what I'd like to see next season.

Chalobah is nowhere near ready or good enough to be a Chelsea player.

[bethos1 802]

Chalobah is nowhere near ready or good enough to be a Chelsea player.

Or one of the other youth players, can't be worse than Mikel/Ramires.