Ramires

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Very excited. Ramires is staying.

Not.

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Today France will be in action and Pogba will probably start this one, so anyways if he has a good game then please do not criticise Ramires by saying that we should have the young Frenchman instead.

Ramires will stay here and I highly doubt our club will spend 40m+ on him or that Juventus will even sell him. We can not always get the young talents.

[Jase 43,479]

What does he offer that other players do not? That argument was valid two years ago. The work rate and stamina of this team has drastically changed since Mou came back.

We have a very energetic team, the signing of Costa and Luis will further add to that.

He was very valuable when we had a less mobile dm in mikel and Lampard old legs. While our forwards like Mata and Sturridge did little off the ball(defensively). This side doesn't need Ramires, the only argument is we need a replacement. There is Tiago who is available for free or Paulinho for a fraction of Ramires transfer sale.

He would be much more useful to Madrid and a better fit.

Just because we suddenly have a team that has good workrate and stamina, doesn't mean all the players have turned into Ramires!

I view Ramires in a similar mould to Essien. Great workrate, stamina and energy. We need players like that to complement the technical players within the team. We basically need a water carrier and Ramires is that as he has a specific skill set that not many others have. Like The Skipper alluded to above, it's almost as if people have a short term memory loss or something. Had Ramires been playing like he did before last season, nobody would have wanted him sold but because he's had one-half of rubbish season, people want him out already. Anybody who have seen Ramires at his best would know what he can do and gives to the team. Those who questioned are basing it only on his performances last season. And I'm sorry, if anyone thinks Paulinho or even Tiago(a 33-year old player!) is an upgrade of sorts on Ramires, then that's quite frankly laughable.

[Henrique 9,133]

Mourinho lovers will have to accept that: He loves Ramires. Where is the talk that was going to be sold?

[FabHazard 655]

Just saw statistics of the brazil vs croatia match.......ramires is the fastest player...

Player Top speed

1.Ramires----------- 31.07km/h

2.Bernard------------29.23km/h

3.Marcelo------------28.87km/h

[Joker10 946]

Just because we suddenly have a team that has good workrate and stamina, doesn't mean all the players have turned into Ramires!

I view Ramires in a similar mould to Essien. Great workrate, stamina and energy. We need players like that to complement the technical players within the team. We basically need a water carrier and Ramires is that as he has a specific skill set that not many others have. Like The Skipper alluded to above, it's almost as if people have a short term memory loss or something. Had Ramires been playing like he did before last season, nobody would have wanted him sold but because he's had one-half of rubbish season, people want him out already. Anybody who have seen Ramires at his best would know what he can do and gives to the team. Those who questioned are basing it only on his performances last season. And I'm sorry, if anyone thinks Paulinho or even Tiago(a 33-year old player!) is an upgrade of sorts on Ramires, then that's quite frankly laughable.

The technical players don't need Ramires to compliment them that is my point.

Essien was a complete player, the word complete can never be used to describe Ramires.

Never said Tiago and Paulinho were upgrades. Both both can be argued are better especially as pivot players.

[Fernando 6,465]

The technical players don't need Ramires to compliment them that is my point.

Essien was a complete player, the word complete can never be used to describe Ramires.

Never said Tiago and Paulinho were upgrades. Both both can be argued are better especially as pivot players.

Mourinho will be too conservative in big matches. We won't go all attacking so he is needed in maybe a 3 man midfield of Ramires, Matic and Fabregas.

[stroey 2,525]

Just saw statistics of the brazil vs croatia match.......ramires is the fastest player...

Player Top speed

1.Ramires----------- 31.07km/h

2.Bernard------------29.23km/h

3.Marcelo------------28.87km/h

Amazing, but Robben was at 37km/h when he outsprinted Ramos. That's a world record.

[Jase 43,479]

Joker10, on 16 Jun 2014 - 02:06 AM, said:

The technical players don't need Ramires to compliment them that is my point.

Essien was a complete player, the word complete can never be used to describe Ramires.

Ramires is obviously not the same player like Essien as the latter is much complete, like you said, but the point is they are similar kind of players who have a specific skill set that not many others have. On their days, they have proved and can be very useful for us. Never mind about complementing the rest of the squad, it's about having variations within the squad. It's almost nonsensical when you have too many similar players and not enough of the grafters to do the dirty work, if you like.

Joker10, on 16 Jun 2014 - 02:06 AM, said:

Never said Tiago and Paulinho were upgrades. Both both can be argued are better especially as pivot players.

One is a player who is already over the hill and the other has had a bad debut season in English season and hardly even knows his best position to shine. Of course, suddenly, Tiago and/or Paulinho are better players than Ramires. It's almost as if Ramires hasn't been judged based on his last 6 awful months here..oh wait!

[Tomo 21,733]

If he suffers a serious injury and loses some of his pace and athleticsism his career at the top level would be well and truly over.

Bit of an enigma this lad, his attributes will come in handy in certain situations, but if an offer of 20m plus comes in........

[Henrique 9,133]

It would be cool if Ramires scores the world cup winner.

lol

[iseah100 5,612]

It would be cool if Ramires scores the world cup winner.

lol

It would be if he scored at all.....

[LAM09 6,751]

Scolari is doing a Mourinho tonight.

[didierforever 7,349]

would be the perfect player to match dos santos' speed in the counter. good decision by scolari.

unfortunately managers like scolari and JOSE are not as knowledgable as some of the posters on here and keep playing rambo.

[robsblubot 3,508]

^^ nah Jose doesn't start 2 attacking fullbacks.

Scolari is smart... He saw that the attacking fullbacks were completely exposed, so he will stick Ramires on the right to help Dani Alves. Paulinho is a good player, but terrible marker and a bit on the slow side. Too slow to cover the fbs. So, that's what he is trying to correct with Ramires.

[LAM09 6,751]

Didn't last long. LOL!

[didierforever 7,349]

And the substitue seems to be working wonders 15 minutes into the second half, right? Mexico absokutely dominating possession and hopelesaly working brazil on the wings.

Why am I wasting ny tine... another phildriver or happyjuan type of poster.

[LAM09 6,751]

And the substitue seems to be working wonders 15 minutes into the second half, right? Mexico absokutely dominating possession and hopelesaly working brazil on the wings.

Why am I wasting ny tine... another phildriver or happyjuan type of poster.

Is that comment aimed at me?