OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I would sell Ramires and get in Milner on a free.Milner is a decent player available on a free but Ramires is definitely better footballer. Also is a few years younger. Milner isn't top 4 quality. Laugh1ngMan, Reddish-Blue, Pacquiao and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Milner is a decent player available on a free but Ramires is definitely better footballer. Also is a few years younger. Milner isn't top 4 quality. Fully disagree, I think Milner is a really good player that does essentially what Ramires does but in a better way. The only trade off is the loss of pace, but that'd be okay considering Milner is better in almost every other aspect. CFC888, Stats, BlueLion. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Fully disagree, I think Milner is a really good player that does essentially what Ramires does but in a better way. The only trade off is the loss of pace, but that'd be okay considering Milner is better in almost every other aspect.The last thing this team needs is less pace. Milner is pretty good, but I'd rather have Ramires for the utility man role.If Chels wants to add Englishmen to the team, put up the money and buy one or two young ones. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Milner is a decent player available on a free but Ramires is definitely better footballer. Also is a few years younger. Milner isn't top 4 quality. Wait, what? Ramires a better footballer than Milner?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ramires is DEFINITELY BETTER THAN Milner...at running... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 The last thing this team needs is less pace. Milner is pretty good, but I'd rather have Ramires for the utility man role.If Chels wants to add Englishmen to the team, put up the money and buy one or two young ones.I feel like we've got enough pace elsewhere in the team (Hazard, Willian, Cuadrado, Remy) if we need it. Milner is a much better utility man than Ramires because he's simply a better footballer. The only thing we would lose as mentioned before is Ramires' ability to break through the middle at pace but then again, we have the likes of Willian and Hazard for that. Feel like a Matic - Milner - Fabregas midfield for example is a lot more solid than Ramires instead of him. Milner isn't the slowest either. Or Hazard - Willian - Milner. Milner can also play the 10 role in our system. He would be much better for it IMO. I feel like the pros outweigh the cons massively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Wait, what? Ramires a better footballer than Milner?!Yes.Milner doesn't offer anything Ramires does except for being English and perhaps a bit better technically but still lacks positional sense (Ramires does as well) as you can see with why whn hes played central midfield for City hes always charging around to get back into position because he has been out of it and doesn't win as many tackles as Rami does. The game against Arsenal Ramires had a good game, is Milner better than that Ramires? No definitely not. Hes only at City because hes English and can play a few positions, he was a good player at Villa but never quite top 4 material and I think thats clear to see for the fact he can't get a game consistently in his common position (which is central midfield) or even out wide, when Fernandinho and Fernando have been poor in the middle this year and Navas and Nasri poor outwide. I get we lack English players but if you think we should be looking at players at Milners level then why don't we go after Stewart Downing or Adam Johnson (before he got done for noncing) instead of Salah or even Defoe instead of Remy when we needed a striker? They are clearly not top 4 material... although I'd of taken Defoe as third choice over Drogba tbf. Reddish-Blue, zolayes, stroey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I feel like we've got enough pace elsewhere in the team (Hazard, Willian, Cuadrado, Remy) if we need it. Milner is a much better utility man than Ramires because he's simply a better footballer. The only thing we would lose as mentioned before is Ramires' ability to break through the middle at pace but then again, we have the likes of Willian and Hazard for that. Feel like a Matic - Milner - Fabregas midfield for example is a lot more solid than Ramires instead of him. Milner isn't the slowest either.Or Hazard - Willian - Milner. Milner can also play the 10 role in our system. He would be much better for it IMO. I feel like the pros outweigh the cons massively.Hmm, I don't think I rate Milner as highly as you do (especially in the middle). I don't like the thought of Milner playing (fairly) regularly at Chelsea. zolayes, OneMoSalah, Reddish-Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Or Hazard - Willian - Milner.Lmao, what a nightmare lineup. Do Chelsea need another player who has better workrate than end product? Reddish-Blue, Bosnian Blue and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 got to laugh at the people who think Milner is better then Ramires! :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 got to laugh at the people who think Milner is better then Ramires! :confused:Instead of laughing, explain why you think so. Debate about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Lmao, what a nightmare lineup. Do Chelsea need another player who has better workrate than end product?If we sold Ramires, Milner would be a great alternative yeah. As I've mentioned before, perfect utility player, and IMO he's underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababoom 4,478 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Ramires is nothing more than a water carrier who can score the occasional screamer, he lacks the technical ability and football iq to be a great player. Milner is not much better but he can at least control a ball and pass efficiently. IMO we need to move away from these sort of signings, we need more technical players who are smarter with and without the ball, players such as Schneiderlin, Koke, Gündogan, André Gomes, Veratti, Cabaye etc. Blue-in-me-Veins, bethos1, EMK and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 If we sold Ramires, Milner would be a great alternative yeah. As I've mentioned before, perfect utility player, and IMO he's underrated.What does James Milner add to the squad that we don't already have though? - Average CM, we got Ramires for that.- Average RW, we got Willian.- Defensive contribution from RW, Willian.- Defensive contribution from CAM, Willian and Oscar.- Little goal contribution from RW/CAM, Willian. BleedsBlue and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Milner wants to be a starter. If we make the right signings in the summer, he won't be.This. Milner is a good player but he won't leave City to join us. He will find himself in the same predicament. Don't see it happening at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,506 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I feel like we've got enough pace elsewhere in the team (Hazard, Willian, Cuadrado, Remy) if we need it. Milner is a much better utility man than Ramires because he's simply a better footballer. The only thing we would lose as mentioned before is Ramires' ability to break through the middle at pace but then again, we have the likes of Willian and Hazard for that. Feel like a Matic - Milner - Fabregas midfield for example is a lot more solid than Ramires instead of him. Milner isn't the slowest either.Or Hazard - Willian - Milner. Milner can also play the 10 role in our system. He would be much better for it IMO. I feel like the pros outweigh the cons massively.I usually respect your posts and generally agree with them but I have to say, Milner wouldn't add anything to our squad, except for the fact that he's Homegrown.I'd rather save the wages we would have to pay Milner and focus on signing a top-class midfielder Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laugh1ngMan 393 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I think Ramires is a better player simple because he is world class in a certain aspect of his game that is hard to find. Milner is just average in everything. Because of that i feel Ramires will hardly ever be out of place in a high end game and when everything clicks together for Ramires he can be a world class player on his day.So when it comes to balancing a team Ramires would be a better fit, Milner doesn't really give you anything of what you need. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 When's the last time Ramires scored a shit goal? His finishing is ridiculously good.That doesn't mean his finishing is good. I can count so many one-on-one with the GK chances, which he misses. That would mean good finishing. To be fair, Ramires's finishing is really poor, but he can sometimes explode with worldies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Lmao, what a nightmare lineup.Do Chelsea need another player who has better workrate than end product?Not really, but do we need English players? Absolutely. Sheva. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Yes.Milner doesn't offer anything Ramires does except for being English and perhaps a bit better technically but still lacks positional sense (Ramires does as well) as you can see with why whn hes played central midfield for City hes always charging around to get back into position because he has been out of it and doesn't win as many tackles as Rami does. The game against Arsenal Ramires had a good game, is Milner better than that Ramires? No definitely not. The only aspect Ramires has over Milner is his physical attributes - pace, stamina, strength etc. Otherwise, Milner is much better technically (not just a bit) - he can pass the ball, can cross the ball and heck even deliver proper set pieces into dangerous areas. Not sure why you mentioned Milner's problems in midfield when he's more of a wide player than anything else. He has shown he can player well in that position and combine, play 1-2s effectively with other creative players around him. His combination with Silva in particular has always been great to watch - the movement, the simple passing - and that has always been effective. EMK and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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